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  What song or line from a song bests describes your time as a JW?????

  by karter in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  waisted days and waisted nites.. freddy fender..

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  jgnat

  As an "unbelieving mate" the song that popped in to my head,

  http://www.lyricsfreak.com/e/eric+carmen/all+by+myself_20051001.html
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  Does consciousness end with the death of the body

  by givemejustalittlemoretime in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  apparently, the carvakas in anceint hinduism were materialists and skeptics, arguing that consciousness ends with the death of the body and that therefore we should take pleasure in this life while we possess it and practice compassion toward others.

  they also argued that direct observation is the only certain way to know anything, and thus the existence of supernatural forces and realities cannot be established and must be rejected.

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  ...or Solomon's sober opinion.
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  Does consciousness end with the death of the body

  by givemejustalittlemoretime in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  apparently, the carvakas in anceint hinduism were materialists and skeptics, arguing that consciousness ends with the death of the body and that therefore we should take pleasure in this life while we possess it and practice compassion toward others.

  they also argued that direct observation is the only certain way to know anything, and thus the existence of supernatural forces and realities cannot be established and must be rejected.

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  jgnat

  A person can do nothing better than to eat and drink and find satisfaction in their own toil. This too, I see, is from the hand of God. - Ecclesiastes 2:24
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  Does consciousness end with the death of the body

  by givemejustalittlemoretime in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  apparently, the carvakas in anceint hinduism were materialists and skeptics, arguing that consciousness ends with the death of the body and that therefore we should take pleasure in this life while we possess it and practice compassion toward others.

  they also argued that direct observation is the only certain way to know anything, and thus the existence of supernatural forces and realities cannot be established and must be rejected.

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  jgnat

  Not all opinions are equal. Evidence-backed opinions carry more weight.
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  Does consciousness end with the death of the body

  by givemejustalittlemoretime in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  apparently, the carvakas in anceint hinduism were materialists and skeptics, arguing that consciousness ends with the death of the body and that therefore we should take pleasure in this life while we possess it and practice compassion toward others.

  they also argued that direct observation is the only certain way to know anything, and thus the existence of supernatural forces and realities cannot be established and must be rejected.

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  jgnat

  I believe in heat signature. That can be measured.

  http://thermosurvey.wordpress.com/2013/02/15/wrapping-up-warm-with-damart/
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  Is the number of JWs leaving increasing?

  by dozy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i don't mean jws getting stumbled or bored or getting dfd for immorality- there always have been a certain number of those all the time.. i've been out for a few years now but am curious to know from "still ins" if there is any evidence of increasing numbers of people leaving for classic "apostate" reasons - ie either fading or getting dfd because they have done research & realise that this isn't "the truth".. when i was a jw occasionally i would hear of someone suddenly stopping going to meetings & hearing through the grapevine & jw gossip mill that the person no longer believed it was the truth or had expressed doubts in the "slave" etc.

  but it didn't happen very often ( though it was increasing somewhat in the years before i left).. one would imagine with the internet & increased information available to all that this would be happening more often.

  any evidence of this , anecdotally?

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  I think the disaffection may show in field service. Think of the "Witness Walk" slowed to a crawl.
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  An Unexpected 2 Hour Anti-Leads to an Unexpected Return Visit

  by truth_b_known in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i just spent 30 minutes writing this story and lost it all before i hit submit.

  i'll try to be brief.. last night a former co-worker of my wife's called saying he was on his way to the house to drop off a job he would like her to do.

  we haven't seen him in over 8 years.

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  Wow, he had a lot to absorb. It is interesting that he cut-off his own cultic response.
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  Surreal experience last night.

  by objectivetruth in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  recently a jw friend that my wife & i knew 3 years ago added me on facebook, after i accepted the request she invited me to a dinner that her and her husband are holding next month.. i imagined that she was unaware of our apostasy, so i declined the invitation on the basis of not wanting to ruin her dinner after the rest of her guests fled at our presence.. i'm never sure how old friends will react when i tell them that i'm no longer a jw.. usually their response is "..... permanent-silence......".

  her response went something like this, " we are all out!

  everyone that is coming is out we all look forward to seeing you guys so much" it turns out that there will be 6 people at the dinner all friends of ours from a congregation that we attended a few years back.. they have all left the organization recently.. pretty crazy experience..

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  That's wonderful! And as an added bonus, the sweet fellowship of like-minded people. May there be more gatherings like this.
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  Pixar the production company is jealous of Caleb and Sophia video's

  by life is to short in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so said the co last night.. apparently a jw was on a flight and just happend to sit next to some big wig from pixar and when the man from pixar heard that he was a jw the pixar man just gushed over what great work that the watchtower has done in producing the caleb video's.

  he siad he only wished pixar could do such great work.

  the co said we are able to do it because we have free labor and jehovah behind us.. my husband stayed home from the meeting but wanted to tie in by phone and that is what the co said in his talk.. the co also talked about all the changes that have happened in the last ten years and how if some of the friends did not like it they needed and to quote him "they just needed to get over it" these changes are going to happned period.

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  Pixar's rendering of fur; amazing. Just amazing.

  http://renderman.pixar.com/view/hair-and-fur
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  The GB gives awakened JW's 2 choices.

  by BU2B in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is classic damned if you do, damned if you dont.. the choice is.

  1. be a hypocrite.

  i just came to the realization that those of us still in and who know ttatt have only 2choices.

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  jgnat

  I figure the way out of this chinese finger-trap is to get your wife on your side first of all. Even if it is a small weakening like taking a weekend away on occassion. Encourage it the first time, then wait for her to suggest it after that. I think it also pays to convince your spouse that the elders are not your friends. The bond between husband and wife has to be stronger than the corporate bond, surely. It is so much more comforting knowing that your partner is there to protect you above all.