Posts by jgnat

looking through it while there i came across an artical people might like to know about on jw com the artical entitled 'the holy spirit and the godheadby angel manuel rodriguez who is director of the biblical research institute of the general conference.

jgnat

Judging by the speed that posters move on to the thread du jour, I am not sure this is a current topic any more. Anyhow, I am interested by your commentary. I have been studying heroes of the faith who were around before the WTS, and found the story of Athanasius. He defended Jesus' nature as fully God, in the face of violent opposition, barely 300 years after the death of Christ. The opponents were Arians. I would not have known what you were talking about, except that I just studied it.

The Arian heresy won its share of victories. The Goths became Arian, for example, and spread their doctrine across Europe by conquest. But by 525, even the Goths had converted to orthodox views. Athanasius, long dead, had prevailed in the cause for which he risked his life. Most Christians from then on confessed that Jesus was "very God of very God."

So, does that mean that modern day Adventists and members of the WTS are descended from the Arian heresy?

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Burning Questions on Christendom and Who Has Hope

by jgnat in

i have asked a self-proclaimed jw to answer some burning questions i have about the wts.

they remain unanswered.

are there any jw lurkers out there that can help me out?

jgnat

OK, I am ready to admit there may not be any happy JW Apologists at this site. For everyone else, could you help me with this one?

q How many anointed JWs are still alive?

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United Nations is NOT the beast

by Praetorian in

all witnesses need to sit up and take notice of this message.

the united nations is not the beast that is taked about in so many publications.

the wt has got it completely wrong.

jgnat

You are all wrong. The Beast is obviously Las Vegas.

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Burning Questions on Christendom and Who Has Hope

by jgnat in

i have asked a self-proclaimed jw to answer some burning questions i have about the wts.

they remain unanswered.

are there any jw lurkers out there that can help me out?

jgnat

I have asked a self-proclaimed JW to answer some burning questions I have about the WTS. They remain unanswered. Are there any JW lurkers out there that can help me out? The links are to the original threads, squares are my questions, circles are the "answers". Six topics, sixteen unanswered questions.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=31219&site=3&page=2

q Is the promise at 1 John 3:3 a restricted hope?

q Is this hope for Jehovahs Witnesses only?

o Without an accurate knowledge there is less chance of a better life.

q Is it for all Jehovahs Witnesses, or only for the anointed JWs?

o Not sure what you meant by being anointed but only the ones that feel they are of the anointed know they are choosen. Goes back to Jehovah knowing that they are or not.

q The first bible study group of the WTS was formed in 1880. It is claimed in your literature that there is an unbroken line of Faithful and Discreet Slaves guiding true Christians from the early church to now. If there was no WTS before 1880, who made up the faithful and discreet slaves?

q How many anointed JWs are still alive?

q I am curious about the WTS view of people like Susanna Wesley. Was she part of the pre-WTS anointed, or part of hopelessly corrupt Christendom?

o Only Jehovah can read someones heart. There are no superwomen here on earth.

q So I am dying to know. According to WTS Accurate Knowlege, is Susanna Wesley a true Christian or false?

q I wonder if he did a search for "dialogue" on his WT CD if he would get any hits?

o I check in every now and then so that would be another five minutes or so. Sorry, dialogue is not in there.

q Way to go Bleep. Since the WTS is silent on the topic of dialogue, could you give me your perspective on the Bereans?

o (Cut and paste from WT materials)

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=32977&site=3&page=3

q As a faithful Witness, what is your opinion on Johann Gutenburg's standing with Jehovah?

o A good artist and I am sure he did good work. He used the Bible in a good way. There are a lot of art workings in the Watchtower.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=32420&site=3&page=2

q Does the WTS have a similar policy (as a Christendom church that I described) to protect children from pedophiles? In these terrible times, perhaps more should be done?

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=33178&page=3&site=3

q Please provide a definition of Ethics, from an authoritative source. WT materials do not count. There are dictionaries on-line if looking it up in a book is too much trouble.

o Don't hurt yourself. This IS a Bible research Forum.

q Bleep, you started this topic. Please defend your position.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=32892&site=3&page=2

q Bleep, exercising your conscience, based on current light of the WTS, is the following link an appropriate website, or not? http://www.interviewwithgod.com/playprayer.htm

o It is a good idea and well made flash movie. A Modern version would work well. It is not the Lords Prayer that comes to mind. It does have great music and well done with pictures. But it seems to be made to put someone at a calm mood, which is the way of God. Life was made to be so easy and it is a refreshing movie. It brings to mind how much Jehovah loves mankind; To have his son come down to die for us.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=33379&site=3&page=4

q Bleep, as this organization is also distributing the bible for free, is the organization and/or the bible also approved by Jehovah?

o Asking me about Jehovah God approved the inspired book of God? Hmmm. I have allready said I think Jehovah did inspire the Book called the Holy Bible. Otherwise it would not be called Holy. Could you think of a better question to ask a Jehovah's Witness?

q Bleep, you misread my original question. I provided a link to ANOTHER organization (hint: the text is blue) that is distributing the bible for free. Is THAT organization approved by Jehovah?

o Those poor Gideons wrote, "The demand for Scriptures in these areas far exceeds our supplies that we are able to purchase through our donations."

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Is God a person, place, or thing?

by Bleep in

just want to take a pole describing our father in heaven.

jgnat

Bleep, you forgot hook, line, and sinker!

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Is God a person, place, or thing?

by Bleep in

just want to take a pole describing our father in heaven.

jgnat

Edited by - jgnat on 13 August 2002 23:42:46

Edited by - jgnat on 13 August 2002 23:53:50

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A poll on your belief systems

by LyinEyes in

now that i am d/a , i now have the freedom to walk into any church or any darn place for that matter, without being afraid the end will come.

i know of a few who go to church , but i wonder what religion you are in now, and why?

my hub is totally agaisnt going to church right now, i can understand that, i know some people come to a point they don't want or need to go.

jgnat

Even though I have only been exposed to the WTS but never sucked in, I resent them already for the stranglehold they have on my honey. My experience with Christianity, however, has been far more positive than many here. I would not fear to walk in to many churches, though some of the practices may seem very strange to the uninitiated. My church is warm, friendly to strangers, does the soup kitchen thing, and has energetic programs for children and teens.

Which burns me up even more when I see how the WTS lumps all of Christendom in to one corrupt pile.

If you are interested in exploring other churches (and have not developed an allergy to study), I would recommend one that is advertising the Alpha Program on a big banner outside their church. I have seen many different denominations running this program, and it is very good. It gives the basics of the Christian faith in a non-threatening and friendly atmosphere. Food and friendship are encouraged. I have fantasized of inviting my honey to one if he ever broke free of the WTS. He does love to study so..(don't laugh. he really does).

Edited by - jgnat on 14 August 2002 21:7:56

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Is God a person, place, or thing?

by Bleep in

just want to take a pole describing our father in heaven.

jgnat

Main Entry: proof spirit
Function: noun
Date: 1790
: an alcoholic liquor or mixture of ethanol and water that contains 50% ethanol by volume at 60F (16C)

Spirit as in alcohol? Please be more specific.