I am not confused. I am guessing that you are, though, because you have not found your own way while out of the organization. Is that the only place where truth can be found? Pursuit of the truth is a noble goal. Are you studying the bible regularly? Some here study the bible by picking a theme or topic, and reading all the verses on that topic. Why not start by reading about the meaning of "charity"?
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by zolensky ini joined this site last week hoping to meet people that would steer me back to the organization.
instead the people i have talked to her are all trying to tell me too see the light and get out of the organization.
in my opinion, not that it matters, i really think that if a person had the truth deeply ingrained in them, they would never leave the truth.
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12 Days of Christmas
by Yerusalyim inso i'm really bad about posting everyting in the "friends" forum.
the origin of the twelve days of christmas .
you're all familiar with the christmas song, "the twelve days of christmas" i think.
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jgnat
Here is a balanced view on the subject...
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History lesson
by Iwasyoungonce ini just got this via email;.
you may already know this, but i thought it.
> interesting.
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jgnat
Awwwww. Another myth bites the dust. Nothing like an xJw to ferret out the facts. Oh, well, it was fun to believe while it lasted...
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Just new here
by moreisbetter ini'm 40+ female in n. tx.
i haven't been attending for at least 8 years.
i don't know if i'm df or da or just considered inactive.
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jgnat
Welcome, Moreisbetter. Great story - not boring in the least. There are lots of xJW's from Texas here, but not me. I am in Canada. Check out who is in chat about 8:00 in the evening. A bunch of 'em sign on about then.
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Does this happen often here?
by Lin ini just finished reading and replying to yizuman's post requesting financial help!
join a forum like this and within days start asking for money?!
does this happen often here?
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jgnat
sunscapes, I take exception to this statement.
yes, there is WTS like class distinction subtly going on here at times on this board
THAT is a very WTS type of thing to say. The WTS is constantly harping on its member about the subtle ploys of the enemy, suggesting that people can be duped without being aware of it. By suggesting that there are subtle class distinctions here on the board will only breed self-doubt, confusion, and rumor. (I wonder if I am one of the distinguished class??). As far as I can tell, there are several kinds of class distinctions here. First of all, everyone knows how many times you have posted. Get to a thousand? Jedi Class (am I remembering the class distinctions aright?). That is a non-subtle distinction between posters. Also, all posters vote with their fingers. A flaming subject gets a lot more attention. Some trolls are good at collecting lengthy threads. As this is a democratic method of classification, it, also, is non-subtle. I do notice that some posters are treated with respect by nearly everybody. Ozziepost, Blondie, and others come to mind. Is there some subtle force at play that awards these posters greater respect than others? I got it. Politeness, courtesy, and mutual respect. Subtle and intangible qualities to be sure, sometimes overlooked by the newcomers.
Sunscapes, if you still stand by this statement, please back it up with some hard examples.
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Financial Help.
by Yizuman inhit my posting limit and am using my second account..... i don't know if anyone can help or not.. but i am in a desprate situation whereas i have to swallow my pride and seek out some help.. i am behind rent as well as my morgage ( i own a moble home on a lot rent).. need food as well.. phone needs to stay in service since i am deaf and need it as part my text communication for hopes of landing a better job.
sister can email me to let me know if a employer calls, so i can drive over and find out what's up from there.. i work at wal-mart and alot of us have our hours cut to 20+ hrs a week, so this is hurting me fianacially.. job hunts is hard since i am deaf since most employers seems to prefer hiring a hearing person.. i know of a deaf friend who is unemployed and he went thru 20 job interviews in a month.
none of them ever called or emailed him to say he got a job.. family can't help since they all have their own problems to deal with.. i can post all the info you need if anyone needs it, such as my landlord's address and my morgage address if anyone wants to mail a check directly to them.
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jgnat
Boy, your sentence structure is better than any deaf person's I've ever seen.
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Does this happen often here?
by Lin ini just finished reading and replying to yizuman's post requesting financial help!
join a forum like this and within days start asking for money?!
does this happen often here?
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jgnat
Heyyyy Valis my brother. I knew we had something in common! Having faced poverty head-on makes it easier to smell a fish, wouldn't you say?
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A Poll - Watchtower's Favorite Bible Heroes
by jgnat inof all the bible heroes, who are the watchtower's favorites?
i have a hunch, but i want to hear what you think first.
i pulled this list from hebrews 11:3-39. .
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jgnat
You are right, I forgot part B. I think the WTS ignores David. But I might be wrong. I have only seen articles in the last few years. Ignore Jesus???? You might be right. I made my list directly from Hebrews, just to show that the WTS is selective on the heroes it profiles. Sure, pick any hero you like.
Yeah, Zacchaeus is a pretty cool dude, too. Do you think a partying, worldly man like him would be welcome at the local KH these days?
BTW, thanks for being the first to respond to my poll!
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Does this happen often here?
by Lin ini just finished reading and replying to yizuman's post requesting financial help!
join a forum like this and within days start asking for money?!
does this happen often here?
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jgnat
AGuest, there are always many avenues for rescue. I understand this personally, as I have been on welfare and down to my last egg many times. If this person is not using the other resources available to him (social agencies, family, friends, etc.) it is because he thinks this forum would be easier than other routes (In other words, there will be no accountability for his actions).
A person who is TRULY desperate and can't see any other "way out"? Perhaps? Nahhhh... all "needy" people are con artists
I did not say that. I have been needy many times. But I never approached people on the street. Panhandlers are not all poor. Some have simply have found a more convenient method for collecting income. Which is fine for them. I still have the choice as to whether I want to support that lifestyle or not.
A story. A sweet, gentle woman in my church came to early prayer, distressed at what she had seen on the street only a few blocks away. Tearfully, she described a child firmly holding the hand of a man holding up a home made sign, "No Food. Please feed my Child." I had seen the man, too, but I had a very different reaction. Children do not go hungry in this country unless the parent is spending money on something other than food. I smelled a fish, and I was angry at the man for using his child in this way. I was also angry for giving the poor such a bad image. And for distressing soft and gentle woman like my sister for no good reason. That man did get in the news. The police investigated, and found he was using the children to get bigger donations on the street. He had never been turned down for any social services. His children were taken away.
Here's another one for you. Ever been approached by a deaf person handing out sign language cards for small change? Did you know that the deaf community is insulted by this behavior (culturally, they do not consider themselves handicapped) and that you are probably handing your small change to a person who can hear perfectly well? The deaf community resents this activity very much, as it does not reflect well on their group, or their true lifestyle.
As a graduate of the school of hard knocks, I am insulted by people who use poverty as an excuse to beg for cash. Especially if they can afford a computer and internet access. They reflect badly on the millions of people living below the poverty line. These heroic folk clip coupons, chase down specials, save vegetable and meat scraps for stew, shop second hand, recycle clothing through all the children then cut the rags for rags, save the buttons for a rainy day, have a friend cut their hair, do without, bus and walk because they can't afford a car, wear out shoe leather and filling out endless forms for the smallest subsidy, tolerate budget advice from bureaucrats who have never made home-made stew, make do with libraries museums and art galleries because Disney is an impossible dream. These poor folks raise children who are grateful, hard working, and know the value of a dollar.
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By Their Fruits You Will Know Them!
by IslandWoman indamn right!
i know the jws by their fruits!.
i know christianity by its fruits!.
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jgnat
Sure, we can judge the organizations as a whole, and be able to find fault with any of them. But what of individual believers, who are doing good every day? They do exist; within every religion and without. I can come up with a list pretty fast, but I think you can come up with your own of family and neigbours and friends that are good, decent people, helping and comforting those around them. I think that is why in the end, we will be individually judged by our fruits.