Not NASCAR, undercover - FIA formula one.
But I agree - if you are basically non-religious, why create a religion around THAT?
has anyone here gone that route?
i've been reading up on them and they sound interesting.
they even accept atheists!
Not NASCAR, undercover - FIA formula one.
But I agree - if you are basically non-religious, why create a religion around THAT?
has anyone here gone that route?
i've been reading up on them and they sound interesting.
they even accept atheists!
I go to two car clubs and have made some pretty good casual friends in both, changeling.
Plus of course we have internet friends here on the forum - which is about the most "religious" place I go.
has anyone here gone that route?
i've been reading up on them and they sound interesting.
they even accept atheists!
I didn't say there was anything wrong with UU, changeling.
I was just saying that I personally could not see the point of joining a church if you were really an atheist/agnostic.
I think my friend did it in order to evangalize for atheism, as a matter of fact - which I find REALLY beyond the point.
has anyone here gone that route?
i've been reading up on them and they sound interesting.
they even accept atheists!
Had a friend who claimed to be an atheist but went to this because for some reason socially he wanted to be in a church.
I would think a social organization (of like secular interests) would actually make more sense.
who were your past circuit overseers?
i'm sure a lot of us actually know mutual people, as the co's relocate all over the country.. here's a few from the southeast us: (let me know if you recognize any names and post yours too please...).
ellwood johnson (new york/philadelphia area for several years also).
Most of the ones I remember are probably out of service or dead by now - but especially I recall:
L. D. Bell - Dave Wetzler - Bennett - Ranier. All in central Oklahoma late 1960s, 1970s era.
my friends wife just divorced him with no scriptural grounds about a year ago.
kicked him out changed the locks on his own house won't let him see his children.
he was living in his truck for two months.
I was interested in the fact that they sent him a certified letter instead of telling him face to face.
Obviously, they did not have the guts to do it man to man.
Agreed that he is now better off and will realize it soon enough.
i seek concrete evidence.explain it in a few words or post links that can contradict jw material.if 607 is a lie then 1914 is lie..
It really makes no difference to me whether they hold onto 1914 or not. The problem I have is how they use their 'authority' to control 7 million people in their flock, even to the point of their death via their blood doctrine.
But it would be a very tenuous control mechanism they would have over those 7 million if they did not claim to be the "faithful and discrete slave".
And that notion of really being the true FDS/Governing Body logically goes out the window if the key date of 1914 is lost - how could the "faithful and discrete slave" be wrong on something so fundamental and that has been held onto for so long?
i seek concrete evidence.explain it in a few words or post links that can contradict jw material.if 607 is a lie then 1914 is lie..
You'd think that ever the "great disappointment" that those groups and people connected to them, would have learned a valuable lesson.
Actually, the modern adventism pretty much did - only the witnesses (as a major religion) are still hanging on to the final extensions of 1844/1874/1914.
i seek concrete evidence.explain it in a few words or post links that can contradict jw material.if 607 is a lie then 1914 is lie..
If they changed it, you would have attacked them, because they changed that.
They didn't change it, and now you attack them, because they don't want to change that.
Their position is being attacked, Titus, not on the basis of changing it or not changing it.
It is being attacked because it was a false prophecy. It is still false prophecy whether it gets changed or not.
i seek concrete evidence.explain it in a few words or post links that can contradict jw material.if 607 is a lie then 1914 is lie..
It wasn't until 1969 that they discarded that teaching.
Isn't it remarkable that there is NOTHING, absolutely nothing, about this whole 1914 date that has not been changed at some point in time?