Posts by cantleave

I have following the thread on the Trinity and discussing the points with my wife who has put the following point forward. Jesus on Earth as a man was tempted by Satan. It is the nature of these temptations which seems to indicate that Jesus is not the same being as Almighty God. In the second and Third temptations Jesus makes reference to God as a seperate being. E.G. You must not put God to the test and It is God alone you should worship. If Jesus was God or an expression of God the temptation to worship Satan and be given the kingdoms of the world would have been bizzare. How does belief in the trinity fit into this scenario?

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the Watchtower, December 15, 2009 (PDF)

by possible-san in

well, the watchtower, december 15, 2009 (pdf) is downloadable now.. although i had stopped notifying of those pdf files here, am i good to notify you?.

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http://bb2.atbb.jp/possible/.

cantleave

I still get the study versions of the WT. If anyone wants me to scan them and distribute via email PM me. Its a 20 minute job to scan and email, I would be delighted to do it. Why anyone WOULD want this mind blowing boring BS is beyond me, but I recieve free and so will give free - lol

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If you were well known as JW at your job and in the neighbourhood...

by Albert Einstein in

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... how did you handle to let others know you do not consider yourself as one of jws anymore?

did you tell them straigh?

did you explain details?.

cantleave

Heartbreaker, Yes we did. We had a chance to meet with our kids teachers last week. Our daughter's teacher is a Christian and was very supportive and was quite interested in why we have changed our religion. We have said we are actually still undergoing a transition and are happy for our kids to get involved in non - worship activities. Neither me or my wife want wanted the kids getting involved in Carols or Prayers, since the school is a church of England school (like many public schools in the UK) in a realtively small village the Carols will be sung in a religious service.

We can not openly have a christmas, for reasons previously stated, but I am sure by next year we will, even if it means going on holiday away from the prying eyes who maybe looking for a reason to DF us.

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Your Personal Top Ten Movies

by KingDavidwasframed in

"the oracle's" last comment on my shawshank thread inspired this.

so what is your all time top ten.

for ease, if you like a whole series (like godfather 1-3), count them as one.

cantleave

1. Pulp Fiction (I could include here Kill Bill (Both Films)) - Just love Tarantino

2. The Shawshank Redemption

3. A fist full of Dollars

4. The Green Mile

5. The life of Brian

6. Alien and Aliens

7. The Breakfast Club (reminder of my scholldays in the 80's)

9. Toy Story

10. The GodFather (series)

There are so many others I am sure if I answered this question on another occcasion the list will be different.

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Did you Exit the Witnesses Gradually - Or Exit Suddenly - Your Reasons ?

by flipper in

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i thought it would be good to discuss it to understand what caused some of us to exit suddenly, or some to exit gradually .. myself , i had been in 44 years , had mentally had doubts for years before exiting - but injustices by the elders and my doubts about the " generation " doctrine led me to exit suddenly one night before a meeting.

the elders pissed me off , i went to my seat, picked my books up and walked out - never going back.

so what is your story and reasons ?

cantleave

So far my exit has been a lot quicker than I thought it would be. I'm still not "out" totally in terms of stopping meeting attendance and FS altogether. Saying that I haven't done any FS for over a month (although I reported) , and I have attended a handful of meetings since August. The last meeting I attended was on Tuesday and both my wife and I were "loved bombed" (")we've really missed you, Hope you are all well" etc., the only reason we went was to return a DVD to someone in the congregation, and thus be seen to prevent a "shepherding call".

We have been invited to our friends house after the meeting tommorow, they have kids who are same age as ours and they often play together so we will be going tomorrow, but neither of us are looking forward to the meeting, even though we will enjoy an afternoon with our freinds. Both Mrs. CL and I have said if we could ,we never attend a meeting again. I am sure it won't be long before our extremely erractic attendance will result in our dear brothers and sisters seeing us as spirtually weak and bad association and that will make it much easier.

We have decided that we will not attend the 2010 DC. We have spoken to our kids teachers saying they can get involved in a lot of the Xmas stuff, except prayers and carols. We won't be celebrating at home this year but I am hoping to next year.

So in essence "So Far So Good".

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