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  The List, by "Prominent Bethelite"

  by morloc in

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  i occasionally pop through here to catch up on the latest, but this time i'm going to pop my own post on here.. some of you internet oldsters may even remember this.

  my first experience on the internet regarding discussions about jehovah's witnesses and the watchtower took place on a now-obscure usenet group, before i eventually stumbled across hourglass2.. during those days, there was a poster who went by the name "prominent bethelite," an otherwise anonymous individual whom i remember most for an extensive, exhaustive compilation of date-oriented remarks, predictions, and expectations by the watchtower organization down through the decades of its history.. it became known as "the list" and it's definitely lengthy... but a fascination look at the abundance of errant statements made through the watchtower's history.. if you're curious, it's been available for a long time on hourglass2's site, and can be seen using the link provided below.. the list, compiled by prominent bethelite (1999).

  that's about it for this stop through here.

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  Thank you.
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  Ray Franz - is he REALLY a hero?

  by baltar447 in

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  2. friends

  on one hand, he's enlightnened many to the internal circle jerk that is the governing body (circa the 70s).. but if there's one reason that can be pointed to for the jws becoming full on cult, it's ray franz.

  without him leaving in the manner he did, and stirring the pot, they might not have change the rule (retroatively i might add) on shunning of disassociated ones.

  they specifically changed that so they could remove him and eliminate his influence.. his actions single handedly have created the situation where we have to fade, evade, leave marriages, say goodbye to family, just because we don't buy the jw bullsh!t anymore.

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  I think hero is the wrong word. He was like many us awakened to the lies the only differnce was he was a member of the GB. Writing CofC was the best thing he could have done as it helped facilitate the exit of many who may otherwise still be unsure whether leaving was the best thing to do.
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  "Probably You Might be Saved" - Somewhere in Zephaniah As I Recall

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower (and old-timers in the org) love to quote old testament passages that were directed toward israel.

  however, the new testament is "a better covenant based upon better promises".. in the following verses, salvation is not described as a possibility, but as a certainty, as a present possession for the original christians:.

  justification is a present possession (rom.

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  Jesus does reign over the world now though. Like canada there is a monarch who reigns but doesn't rule.

  Then what is the bloody point of him????
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  How do you study? What are your methods of memorizing big amount of text?

  by will-be-apostate in

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  2. friends

  i'm having an exam in mineralogy in 20 days and need to learn 120+ pages of content.

  i've learned a part of it so far.

  i'm just curious how did you/do you study?

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  I know such students who are telling everyone how they didn't study anything and still scored high...........................are total bullshitters.
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  Misconception 1:...........

  by Jon Preston in

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  atheists want there to be no god.

  absolutely false!

  atheists i have met arent evil, but very moral.

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  I left the JW's still wanting to believe, wanting there to be more to life than this. Then rationality hit, there is no god, this is it - but you know what? This life is still f*(k1n9 awesome.
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  The end of Watchtower in the western world ?

  by cookiemaster in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hey guys!

  i was just thinking, with all the new promising stem cell research and trials, many scientists predict that in a decade or two, advanced biotech will make possible to extend human lifespan considerably and soon after indefinitely.

  also, access to vast amounts of information is becoming ubiquotous throughout the world and it seems that it's increasingly harder to keep people ignorant and in the dark.

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  cantleave

  Phizzy, 60 is new 40 for those who don't drink or smoke and take plenty of exercise, in other words I'm f*cked.
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  Is JW.org blocking this site?

  by Comatose in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  tried accessing a picture linked and got this... access deniedyou don't have permission to access "http://assets.jw.org/assets/m/w14/20140315/w14_20140315.art/2014205_univ_lsr_lg.jpg" on this server.. reference #18.39e24cae.1400781585.632ce346.

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  Plans for huge Jehovah's HQ take shape

  by insidetheKH in

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  2. friends

  plans for a huge jehovahs witness commune on the outskirts of chelmsford are gathering pace.. the international bible students association, the charity which manages jehovahs witnesses printing and literature distribution, wants to create a new british headquarters.. the 82-acre site (about 15 football pitches) at temple farm site, off ship road, west hanningfield.. the plans include a printery - producing bible-based literature - admin and language translation of?ces, video and sound production studios, an auditorium, training centre and workshops all on site.. plus there will be one and two bedroom apartments - for up to 1,200 residents and visitors - along with onsite caterers, laundrettes and healthcare facilities.. the site would also have its own energy centre - making it self-sufficient - and a new access road would also be built from temple wood.. a resident from stock, 60, who didnt want to be named, said: its all a bit sci-fi if you ask me.

  its a very unusual development, a commune really.

  i wouldnt say i was against it as it is all a bit of a mess at that site at the moment.. the land, currently occupied by a car breakers yard, was removed from the green belt by chelmsford city council in 2008 and earmarked for employment use.. ibsa agreed to buy the land from its current owners in december, as long as they get planning permission for the project.

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  cantleave

  So the land is already contaminated - the WT can add to that no doubt!
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  AWAKE! Blasts Vatican "Hypocrisy" on Real Estate Aquisitions

  by 4thgen in

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  awake!

  may 22, 1969 page 30. watching the world: blasts vatican hypocrisy.

  professor harvey cox of the harvard university divinity school told some 4,000 prelates, priests, students and scholars from more than 9 countries that the roman catholic church is helping foster unbelief.

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  LOL!!!! HA!!HAHAHAHA!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  we get so engrossed in discussions during the family worship evening that it often goes on till late at night if i dont stop my family, .

  hahahahahahahahahahah hehehe hahahah!!!!!!.

  lol!!!

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  cantleave

  Are you at Twickers?