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  anybody ever asekd a JW, who is a med. doc ?

  by inbetween in

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  about the societies teaching on fractions / components ?.

  there are indeed some physicians, who are jw, what do they think about this teaching, that certain fractions (red, white bloodcells, platelets and plasma) is forbidden, while other fractions are conscience matter ?.

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  very intersting, thanks for the replies:

  TD: yes, someone could reason: since minor fractions (gamma globulin) are crossing the platential barrier, all minor fractions are allowed. Then he could meditate about, what are minor fractions. Somebody else could with the same right reason, since part of blood are exchanged in a natural setting, the command ot abstain from blood, must only refer to nutrition (= eating), both reasonings have to be accepted, however, and here is my point: Its a personal decsion based on ones conscience !!!

  Where is the personal responsibility and conscience, when I have to take a list from the society to find out what my conscience permits ?

  Its soo ridiculous actually !!!

  However, how do most brothers view it ? They appreciate that the society gives them more freedom of choice

  So take away everything from somebody, then give them a little bit back, and they thank you forever...
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  POEM..."Forgive them Father, for they don't know what they do"...

  by tjlibre in

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  showing my poetic side...hope you enjoy.

  forgive them father, for they dont know what they do.

  when they use your holy name to lead us astray.... forgive them father, for they dont know what they do.

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  very nice, tjlibre, Christian spirirt coupled with "power of reason", very nice and accurate indeed !!
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  anybody ever asekd a JW, who is a med. doc ?

  by inbetween in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  about the societies teaching on fractions / components ?.

  there are indeed some physicians, who are jw, what do they think about this teaching, that certain fractions (red, white bloodcells, platelets and plasma) is forbidden, while other fractions are conscience matter ?.

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  inbetween

  about the societies teaching on fractions / components ?

  There are indeed some physicians, who are JW, what do they think about this teaching, that certain fractions (red, white bloodcells, platelets and plasma) is forbidden, while other fractions are conscience matter ?
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  interesting link, article on JW about Haiti relief

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  http://www.examiner.com/x-17373-phoenix-signs-of-the-times-examiner~y2010m1d26-helping-haiti-give-generously-but-wisely.

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  sorry, Im so stupid, just saw the same posted a page before, sorry again...
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  interesting link, article on JW about Haiti relief

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  http://www.examiner.com/x-17373-phoenix-signs-of-the-times-examiner~y2010m1d26-helping-haiti-give-generously-but-wisely.

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  http://www.examiner.com/x-17373-Phoenix-Signs-of-the-Times-Examiner~y2010m1d26-Helping-Haiti-Give-generously-but-wisely
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  new member

  by bokf in

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  inbetween

  soem years ago, I came unintentionally to this websie, and after reading some headlines only, I thought, what a bunch of loosers...

  evil apostates, who, in order to excuse their wrong doing, find faults in Jahs org and "beat" the slaves with lies and half-truths...

  well, it changed, but not this forum, it was me that changed.

  What made this change ? evil apostates ? satanic propaganda ? No, my eyes opened wider and wider only through reading material published by the WTS !!!! After many years, i could not put up with cognitive dissonace in myself, once you see the strong "human" element in some of their teachings, you shake off their stupid restrictions, and look "behind the curtain", which is also oin websides like this.

  Maybe, my friend, in due time, you come back, after experiencing similar things.
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  a dub at my door said my childs abuse was an isolated case !

  by looloo in

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  i left town after the court case for a fresh start , it was 18 months before dubs knocked on my door , so i told them why i was not interested in their message , aswell as the watchtower payouts in may 2007 ,with gag orders attached , they seemed quite shocked by that but warned me to be carefull what information i read on the web !

  i told them that in america they do not make up the news !

  they seemed quite shocked about what happened to my child but said it would have ben an isolated case !

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  I remember, when a letter came from the society, how to deal with brothers, who abused children.

  I thought, man that really happens in gods org ?

  I thought, those were isolated cases.....

  Normal JW do not know the facts, from where should they get the information ?

  The society does not tell anything, only bits and pieces to elders some times..

  apostate information is heavily demonized and the internet or media in general has to be mistrusted, anything against JW is propaganda from the world of the devil.

  Additionally, please consider, JW view themselves as a close community, a real rotherhood, just like a little village.

  To hear something like that happening in a little village, people usually tend to deny it, this was the case for years in many countries, so it is the case with most JW as well.

  This is simply to clarify or to understand the reaction of most JW, however, nobody should minmize the damage that has been done to children + their families from "sick" criminals and from the wrong policy of the WTS !!!
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  If I talk to an elder like this, would I get into trouble?

  by asilentone in

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  "i do not think you are appointed by the holy spirit".

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  agree with moshe, to me it was explained, that since the requirements for an elder are in the Bible, and the bible is sinspired through holy spirit, therefore if somebody is appointed as elder, he is appointed by holy spirit.

  However, how was this true in the 1. century, before this particular letters (to Timothy and Titus) were written ?
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  Commentary on the Letter of James

  by lepermessiah in

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  zoiks inspired this thread when he mentioned this book elsewhere.. i have read other threads on this forum about it, but i always enjoy the fresh insight on here.. commentary on the letter of james was always my favorite book from wtbs, partly because i love the book of james, but also because it was one of the books that dealt with more practical christian living than constant wt doctrine.. i mentioned to a number of people that i loved that book, and got a few comments of "well, you know that book was written by an apostate.".

  it didnt take me long to do a little math - that book came out i believe in 1979/1980, right around the time of the great purge.

  how could someone write such an excellent book and then be branded an apostate just a few months later???.

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  thanks "mythbuster" thats what i meant.

  Also later in the same chapter, it says something about, that preaching is a "spontaneous" event.....not that forced for filling in report at the end of the month thing...
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  Commentary on the Letter of James

  by lepermessiah in

  1. jw
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  zoiks inspired this thread when he mentioned this book elsewhere.. i have read other threads on this forum about it, but i always enjoy the fresh insight on here.. commentary on the letter of james was always my favorite book from wtbs, partly because i love the book of james, but also because it was one of the books that dealt with more practical christian living than constant wt doctrine.. i mentioned to a number of people that i loved that book, and got a few comments of "well, you know that book was written by an apostate.".

  it didnt take me long to do a little math - that book came out i believe in 1979/1980, right around the time of the great purge.

  how could someone write such an excellent book and then be branded an apostate just a few months later???.

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  inbetween

  just read the introduction of his book, its one of the best lines ever written in WT-history.

  If JW really followed this, it would be a much better religion....and maybe this site would not need to exist...