"people don't join religions for the doctrine.
this and other interesting observations by randy watters, in a new post at free minds.
a sample is below.. .
ak jeff, I agree completely, observe the same here, some just are happy with rules and if the society is uncertain, they endeavor to put certainty in themselves.
they need somebody to tell them what to do. Mayn of them would really fail in life, and have failed before joining.
For others (especially born in, or those caught off guard so to speak) it becomes a burden, they deal with either through living it only on the surface, or through depression, alcohol, other issues...
and a tree fell on me, pinning me to the ground, and all you had was a dull pocket knife, would you perform a field amputation of a leg or arm to save my life?
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only after contacting the local HLC, and you need to have your DPA handy anyway.
How else should I know which fractions you allow to use ?
it doesn't take much, just stop going.
you don't even have to do it all at once; maybe do one meeting a week for a month, then one meeting a month for two months, then just stop going.. what's going to happen?.
nothing.. getting a shepherding call... q: what's wrong brother twinkletoes?
MLE, I quite understand your position, I am in similar "shoes"
fading as an elder is virtually impossible without facing more or less serious questioning.
If its not health, it must be something else. In my case, we had an elder resign some years ago, apparatently due to secular work reasons.
However, some time later, the real reason came up, he cheated on his wife.
If I ever would resign, I´m sure suspicions in this regard may run high, because my health has been very good so far, and I´m not good at faking things.
My goal is to resign sooner or later, but I need to find the appropriate timing. I work on my wife to get her used to the idea of switching congo, because this may be my only change.
But right now, we have a small BOE, where each one is needed desperately. Fortunetely, my fellow elders are of the more reasonable, intelligent kind, company men yes, but as open possible. My little influence can help to take advantage of that, and I could at least once prevent an unnecessary JC, by avoiding the merely legal aproach on things.
There is good that can be accomplished by those of the "conscious class", before they fade or drop out.
Maybe thats something in the end, that helps deal with the responsibility before God, however we may define it.
"misery, do you have an extra kingdom ministry?
" "misery, you didnt give me my kindom ministry for april, i know its only february, but you wouldnt happen to have it, would you?
" "i could have sworn i gave you your km.
haha, yes, like Mad sweeney said, its a 50/50 issue.
half the time I forgot to had it out, half the time the pub misplaced it...
well lately it doenst matter, just take the one from last month, most of it is the same boring FS-advice anyway...
about the societies teaching on fractions / components ?.
there are indeed some physicians, who are jw, what do they think about this teaching, that certain fractions (red, white bloodcells, platelets and plasma) is forbidden, while other fractions are conscience matter ?.
very intersting, thanks for the replies:
TD: yes, someone could reason: since minor fractions (gamma globulin) are crossing the platential barrier, all minor fractions are allowed. Then he could meditate about, what are minor fractions. Somebody else could with the same right reason, since part of blood are exchanged in a natural setting, the command ot abstain from blood, must only refer to nutrition (= eating), both reasonings have to be accepted, however, and here is my point: Its a personal decsion based on ones conscience !!!
Where is the personal responsibility and conscience, when I have to take a list from the society to find out what my conscience permits ?
Its soo ridiculous actually !!!
However, how do most brothers view it ? They appreciate that the society gives them more freedom of choice
So take away everything from somebody, then give them a little bit back, and they thank you forever...
showing my poetic side...hope you enjoy.
forgive them father, for they dont know what they do.
when they use your holy name to lead us astray.... forgive them father, for they dont know what they do.
very nice, tjlibre, Christian spirirt coupled with "power of reason", very nice and accurate indeed !!
about the societies teaching on fractions / components ?.
there are indeed some physicians, who are jw, what do they think about this teaching, that certain fractions (red, white bloodcells, platelets and plasma) is forbidden, while other fractions are conscience matter ?.
about the societies teaching on fractions / components ?
There are indeed some physicians, who are JW, what do they think about this teaching, that certain fractions (red, white bloodcells, platelets and plasma) is forbidden, while other fractions are conscience matter ?
http://www.examiner.com/x-17373-phoenix-signs-of-the-times-examiner~y2010m1d26-helping-haiti-give-generously-but-wisely.
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sorry, Im so stupid, just saw the same posted a page before, sorry again...
http://www.examiner.com/x-17373-phoenix-signs-of-the-times-examiner~y2010m1d26-helping-haiti-give-generously-but-wisely.
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soem years ago, I came unintentionally to this websie, and after reading some headlines only, I thought, what a bunch of loosers...
evil apostates, who, in order to excuse their wrong doing, find faults in Jahs org and "beat" the slaves with lies and half-truths...
well, it changed, but not this forum, it was me that changed.
What made this change ? evil apostates ? satanic propaganda ? No, my eyes opened wider and wider only through reading material published by the WTS !!!! After many years, i could not put up with cognitive dissonace in myself, once you see the strong "human" element in some of their teachings, you shake off their stupid restrictions, and look "behind the curtain", which is also oin websides like this.
Maybe, my friend, in due time, you come back, after experiencing similar things.
