Also, I disagree with the kind of books meant to disclose secret conspiracies. Apparently the conspirators are not smart enough to keep their secrets from becoming known. "The protocols of the elders of Zion" is known to be fake, yet many people still believe it, and some used it to justify the killing of jews.
Posts by dgp
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Was the Jehovah's Witnesses sect called into existence to undermine Christianity?
by RULES & REGULATIONS ini have just finished the book ''worldwide evil and misery'' by robin de ruiter.
the book is about how approximately 300 men and unseen powers pull the strings and determine the fate of the world.
the new world order govern our politics,business,social,and intellectual process.. on page 100 titled ''undermining the faith in christianity'', he writes that many destructive religious sects were formed in the nineteenth century by the clans of the rothschilds,warburgs,and rockefellers.
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Was the Jehovah's Witnesses sect called into existence to undermine Christianity?
by RULES & REGULATIONS ini have just finished the book ''worldwide evil and misery'' by robin de ruiter.
the book is about how approximately 300 men and unseen powers pull the strings and determine the fate of the world.
the new world order govern our politics,business,social,and intellectual process.. on page 100 titled ''undermining the faith in christianity'', he writes that many destructive religious sects were formed in the nineteenth century by the clans of the rothschilds,warburgs,and rockefellers.
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dgp
All Time Jeff, I couldn't agree more with you: "all organizations, religious or political, is to control people. The more people you control, the more influence and power your group has". I certainly agree with the rest of your post. You really hit the nail in the head.
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Community Service - why looked down on when it was so encouraged by Jesus
by insearchoftruth inmy wife yesterday was talking about how useless it really is to feed the hungry and provide cold weather shelters since the problem will not go away until the 'new system of things'.. i know that at one time jesus does state that there will be poor always, but a key aspect of his ministry on earth was helping the less fortunate.
how does the wts justify the discouragement of its rank and file from performing acts of community service, when the 'greatest man who ever lived' was so active in it?.
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dgp
I believe community service is looked down on because it denies the impending Armageddon, and, also, because it suggests that we can actually work now and here to improve the world and make it better. Which is an idea that suggests that Satan doesn't control the world, since we can improve it.
I also think it's because people could argue that they are feeding the poor instead of serving the WTBTS, and there would be no way to force people to sell magazines if community service were a good thing.
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Friends who are not JW
by dgp ini understand that a good jw must not be friends with anyone who is not in the society.
however, i am under the impression that in real life that gets sort of swept under the rug and jw's have friends outside anyways.
is my impression correct?
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dgp
I appreciate all the answers, and thank everyone for them. I hope more people will feel like giving me more insight. Thank you, all.
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Need a Little Help - Found JW Niece on Facebook....
by Sam Whiskey ingood afternoon all,.
i need a little help... yesterday i found my niece on facebook.
she's 15 yrs.
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dgp
I think waiting would be a good thing to do, and, despite what I wrote, I agree that perhaps it would be best if you leave the religion out of the relationship for a while. However, I wonder if it is at all possible to leave religion out. You left the society, and for those still in, that always matters. That is the first thing that matters at all.
From a certain point of view, there's no reason to wait until she's eighteen. I wonder if there's an age at which you can show a niece your love. On the other hand, you could get her into trouble, and, on that basis, I agree that it would be good to wait.
The big question here is whether your niece would actually like you to contact her now, or not.
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Friends who are not JW
by dgp ini understand that a good jw must not be friends with anyone who is not in the society.
however, i am under the impression that in real life that gets sort of swept under the rug and jw's have friends outside anyways.
is my impression correct?
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dgp
Thank you, feenx.
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Need a Little Help - Found JW Niece on Facebook....
by Sam Whiskey ingood afternoon all,.
i need a little help... yesterday i found my niece on facebook.
she's 15 yrs.
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dgp
I was never in the society, so there's a lot to which I can't contribute. I think I can help a bit here.
It seems to me that daring to talk to her anyways is the most difficult part of it all. I'm sure you know that she would be doing what the organization finds wrong, which is "mixing in company" with someone who left the religion. Most likely she will refuse to be your friend. Then, if she accepted your request, she could remain your Facebook friend for as long as her father didn't find out. But, what about other witnesses? JWs seem to only have other JWs as Facebook friends, and your being her "friend" would be a public thing.
If you decide to talk to her anyways, I think it would be best if you simply sent her a message, not a friend request. If she were willing to continue talking to you, then she could use an e-mail address, which would be away from legalistic eyes.
I can relate to what you say, because the witness who brought me here won't add me to her Facebook list. You already know the reason.
If I were to say something to a niece of mine, I would know that it's likely she won't read my message. So I need to write something that is short and meaningful. I would write something like this: "Whatever you think about me, or whatever they have told you about me, whatever I am, please know that I love you with unconditional love, and nothing will ever change that. Please be sure that being able to talk to you, see you, and hug you, if only once, would feel like heaven to me. Please remember that I will always be there for you if you should need me. If I haven't been there for you, it's only because I have found it impossible. Now that I have the slightest chance, here I am". If you had more space to do so (I'm afraid Facebook won't let you write too much), then you can add your address, and whatever you think is OK.
Hope this helps.
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Friends who are not JW
by dgp ini understand that a good jw must not be friends with anyone who is not in the society.
however, i am under the impression that in real life that gets sort of swept under the rug and jw's have friends outside anyways.
is my impression correct?
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dgp
Greetings everyone. I understand that a good JW must not be friends with anyone who is not in the society. However, I am under the impression that in real life that gets sort of swept under the rug and JW's have friends outside anyways. Is my impression correct? If you have a friend outside, how far could you guys get (eating with outsiders, having common parties, going to the movies...) without the elders "counselling" you? Thank you for your answers.
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Newbie greets all
by LeeT inhi all, i thought i'd introduce myself to all you folks.. .
my background with the witnesses goes like this.
when i was 10 my father dies, the following year my mother meets a new man.
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dgp
Welcome!
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Actress Brittany Murphy dies
by keyser soze inanother victim of hollywood excess.
when will they learn:.
http://movies.msn.com/movies/article.aspx?news=448013>1=28101.
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dgp
I really liked her. I'm so sorry...