Posts by dgp
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283Are you sure leaving is a wise decision ?- Lurkers think twice- Part 2
by mankkeli inin the previous thread of this series, i called lurkers attention to the need of being discreet when contemplating an exit from the jw religion.
i mentioned that the thread was borne as a result of the general observations i made reading old posts here and discussing with many ex-jws and their lives have gradually turned out.
that thread alone was visited more than 2,980 times and graced with 204 contributions.
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Are you sure leaving is a wise decision ?- Lurkers think twice- Part 2
by mankkeli inin the previous thread of this series, i called lurkers attention to the need of being discreet when contemplating an exit from the jw religion.
i mentioned that the thread was borne as a result of the general observations i made reading old posts here and discussing with many ex-jws and their lives have gradually turned out.
that thread alone was visited more than 2,980 times and graced with 204 contributions.
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Are you sure leaving is a wise decision ?- Lurkers think twice- Part 2
by mankkeli inin the previous thread of this series, i called lurkers attention to the need of being discreet when contemplating an exit from the jw religion.
i mentioned that the thread was borne as a result of the general observations i made reading old posts here and discussing with many ex-jws and their lives have gradually turned out.
that thread alone was visited more than 2,980 times and graced with 204 contributions.
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Are you sure leaving is a wise decision ?- Lurkers think twice- Part 2
by mankkeli inin the previous thread of this series, i called lurkers attention to the need of being discreet when contemplating an exit from the jw religion.
i mentioned that the thread was borne as a result of the general observations i made reading old posts here and discussing with many ex-jws and their lives have gradually turned out.
that thread alone was visited more than 2,980 times and graced with 204 contributions.
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dgp
The Empire Strikes Back
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Merrimack New Hampshire KH Project denied credit by WT seeks $ from others
by bnybyt inthe merrimack congregation in nh is seeking to buy land and build a new kh, the nh rbc has plans to build a $750,000 (that's right a three quarter million kh).
"the branch" has wanted to build a kh between the cities of concord and manchester nh for quite a few years now.
unfortunately the wt has looked into their resources, local bank account is over $100,000, and they can contribute $2,000 monthly towards a mortgage.
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dgp
I want to join the Watchtower, provided I get a share of the money.
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Jehovahs Witnesses should take part in non-military national service.Latest news from Sweeden
by Hairyhegoat indefence minister wallin: jehovahs witnesses should take part in non-military national service .
omkt/omktstefan wallin, minister of defence print thisthe exemption from the obligation of military service granted to the jehovahs witnesses is unfair, and should be abolished, minister of defence stefan wallin (swedish peoples party) told the finnish commercial television channel mtv3 on wednesday.. in wallins opinion, the jehovahs witnesses could perform a non-military national service in their congregations.. .
jehovahs witnesses, who refuse to take part in the military service or any of its non-military alternatives (siviilipalvelus, see link below) for reasons of conscience, were exempted from the compulsory national service in 1987. well the jw's in sweeden better get used to having to comply with this very soon then.
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dgp
Dold is right. Stefan Wallin is the defense minister of Finland.
However, that doesn't help the Watchtower. Finland is most unlucky to have Russia as a neighbor. Their having armed forces is a must. It must not sit well with the Finnish that someone claims exception from something that is in their vital interests to maintain.
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Jehovahs Witnesses should take part in non-military national service.Latest news from Sweeden
by Hairyhegoat indefence minister wallin: jehovahs witnesses should take part in non-military national service .
omkt/omktstefan wallin, minister of defence print thisthe exemption from the obligation of military service granted to the jehovahs witnesses is unfair, and should be abolished, minister of defence stefan wallin (swedish peoples party) told the finnish commercial television channel mtv3 on wednesday.. in wallins opinion, the jehovahs witnesses could perform a non-military national service in their congregations.. .
jehovahs witnesses, who refuse to take part in the military service or any of its non-military alternatives (siviilipalvelus, see link below) for reasons of conscience, were exempted from the compulsory national service in 1987. well the jw's in sweeden better get used to having to comply with this very soon then.
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As of today, November 3, 2011,
http://www.jw-media.org/kor/20110501rpt.htm?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Conscientious Objectors
South Korea
May 2011Currently, there are 804 of Jehovah’s Witnesses who are imprisoned in South Korea. They have been charged under South Korea’s Military Service Act for their conscientious refusal of military service based on religious grounds. Since 1950, there have been 16,272 of Jehovah’s Witnesses sentenced to a combined total of 31,168 years for refusing to perform military service. The names, grounds (under Military Service Act*), duration of sentence, and present locations of detention are as follows:
(a long list)
* Article 88, Section 1 states: If a person who has received a draft notice for active duty or Notice of Summons (including Notice of Summons for voluntary enrollment), without justifiable cause, does not report for service within the period specified in the following clauses or refuses the summons, then he shall be sentenced to a prison term of three years or less. However, if a person who receives a notice summoning him to get a physical checkup as a part of a wartime draft fails to participate in a one-time checkup, then he will be sentenced to a prison term of no more than six months, a fine of no more than two million won, or be detained.
Last updated 05 July 2011 14:48:15 GMT
I found this in a Spanish forum. It was suggested that someone tells the South Korean witnesses that, some years ago, Mexican male witnesses were let off the hook and allowed to pay bribes to avoid military service just so that Watchtower property would remain in the Watchtower's hands.
If my information is correct, nowadays it is the Branch office that takes care of stating that all male witnesses are "ministers" and therefore are exempt from military service. As Ray Franz pointed out, that was always possible, but it was not done so that the Watchtower would not be officially a "church" and their property were not held in custody by the Mexican governments, as was the case with all other churches.
I think it is so sad that someone should be in prison for the Watchtower after what happened in Mexico. Someone should tell these guys that they are wasting their time, not just serving it.
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Russian court finds Jehovah's Witness guilty of inciting hatred. 3.11.2011
by Hairyhegoat insome interesting news for you all..headline title: russian jehovah's witness found guilty of inciting hatred 03 november 2011 a russian court ruling which found a jehovah's witness guilty of inciting hatred and enmity against other religious groups for distributing literature, is an attack on freedom of expression and religion, amnesty international said today.aleksandr kalistratov was sentenced to 100 hours of community service by a court in the altai republic on thursday, for handing out jehovah's witness brochures which allegedly incited hatred against the catholic church.the city court in gorno-altaisk had.... .
read complete article.
amnesty international - thursday, november 3rd 2011headline title: russian jehovah's witness found guilty of inciting hatred 03 november 2011 a russian court ruling which found a jehovah's witness guilty of inciting hatred and enmity against other religious groups for distributing literature, is an attack on freedom of expression and religion, amnesty international said today.aleksandr kalistratov was sentenced to 100 hours of community service by a court in the altai republic on thursday, for handing out jehovah's witness brochures which allegedly incited hatred against the catholic church.the city court in gorno-altaisk had.... .
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Russia is also the home of the KGB. Can we speculate that they have noticed something?
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Russian court finds Jehovah's Witness guilty of inciting hatred. 3.11.2011
by Hairyhegoat insome interesting news for you all..headline title: russian jehovah's witness found guilty of inciting hatred 03 november 2011 a russian court ruling which found a jehovah's witness guilty of inciting hatred and enmity against other religious groups for distributing literature, is an attack on freedom of expression and religion, amnesty international said today.aleksandr kalistratov was sentenced to 100 hours of community service by a court in the altai republic on thursday, for handing out jehovah's witness brochures which allegedly incited hatred against the catholic church.the city court in gorno-altaisk had.... .
read complete article.
amnesty international - thursday, november 3rd 2011headline title: russian jehovah's witness found guilty of inciting hatred 03 november 2011 a russian court ruling which found a jehovah's witness guilty of inciting hatred and enmity against other religious groups for distributing literature, is an attack on freedom of expression and religion, amnesty international said today.aleksandr kalistratov was sentenced to 100 hours of community service by a court in the altai republic on thursday, for handing out jehovah's witness brochures which allegedly incited hatred against the catholic church.the city court in gorno-altaisk had.... .
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Why isn't Amnesty International complaining about the official shunning policy of the Borg and how trapped and coerced that makes JWs?
Good question.
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Shattering The Myth Of Mother Teresa
by Bangalore inshattering the myth of mother teresa.. http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/05/mother-teresa.html.
http://indianrealist.wordpress.com/2010/05/14/the-squalid-truth-behind-the-legacy-of-mother-teresa/.
bangalore.
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Band on the Run: ccording to Christopher Hitchens' book, she never really provided "health care" as understood in a clinic. Her purpose was to help people sort of come to terms with their pain.
But the worst aspect seems to have been the fact that the entire operation was based on the idea that by doing good, God would reward her and would send her to heaven. The purely human aspect of relieving pain, healing the sick, whatever, that was not the idea; the idea was to make it to Heaven. The sad truth is that many a religious person feels this way, too.
Hitchens' book is available here:
I had another personal shock when I saw that she accepted stolen money and refused to return it. What is more, she wanted leniency for the "financist". This, if we believe a letter received in California, bearing the stamp of the time, date and place of reception, with the letterhead of the Missionaries of the Charity and Mother Teresa's own signature.