Very good information. Thank you, Terry.
Posts by dgp
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60Do Jehovah's Witnesses know what happened to them in 1954?
by Terry in1954: the year jehovah's witnesses stopped worshiping jesus christ.
watchtower charter: http://www.jehovah.net.au/books/1945_cha..._wtbts.pdf.
did you know that from 1879 until 1954 the writings of c.t.russell, j.f.rutherford, nathan knorr and the watchtower's own charter all agreed that jesus christ was worthy of worship?.
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So God allows mental illness to exist to help people? (Please read)
by Joliette inso me and my friend were on the phone and somehow (i can't remember) we got on the subject of mental illness...oh okay, i was actually talking about my family, and i was telling her that i didnt know if i wanted to have children because there is so much unstableness in my family.
she said that god created mental illness to help people to understand people better?????
wtf????
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dgp
Joliette: Still Thinking posted very well what I meant to say.
If you collect information on how many people carry "deleterious" genes, then the conclusion would be that perhaps only a few people would be "allowed" to have children. If anyone were, that is.
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So God allows mental illness to exist to help people? (Please read)
by Joliette inso me and my friend were on the phone and somehow (i can't remember) we got on the subject of mental illness...oh okay, i was actually talking about my family, and i was telling her that i didnt know if i wanted to have children because there is so much unstableness in my family.
she said that god created mental illness to help people to understand people better?????
wtf????
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dgp
This is a sensitive point, I believe.
Can you be sure that "unstableness" was inherited?
Beyond that, it is probably safe to say that few people in the world do not carry some deleterious mutation. I can understand why some people wouldn't want to pass "bad genes" to their children, but I wonder if anyone can actually feel sure that his/her children won't be inheriting a bad gene.
Now, God didn't create anything :-).
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Who Like Me, Feel That The Olympics Are About As Exciting To Watch As A Dog Turd Turning White?
by Low-Key Lysmith indiscuss..
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dgp
Besides "scantily clad", I like gymnastics.
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Who On This Site Would You Like To Meet?
by minimus inthere are a lot of interesting people that frequent this site.. sometimes, we get an idea of what the posters are really like in "real life".
and i'm sure i could be easily surprised by some that you think might be strong personalities because of their board presence, and in reality, they might be shy in a face to face setting.. i would enjoy meeting simon.
simon used to be terribly annoyed by my posting and now i think he's accepted with tolerance my being here.. farkel seems like a grouchy cantankerous fellow but i think he'd be very interesting company!.
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dgp
Poztate: But my list isn't excluding anybody! It was just the names that came quickly to me. I knew I was leaving people out so I explained that.
Anytime.
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Who On This Site Would You Like To Meet?
by minimus inthere are a lot of interesting people that frequent this site.. sometimes, we get an idea of what the posters are really like in "real life".
and i'm sure i could be easily surprised by some that you think might be strong personalities because of their board presence, and in reality, they might be shy in a face to face setting.. i would enjoy meeting simon.
simon used to be terribly annoyed by my posting and now i think he's accepted with tolerance my being here.. farkel seems like a grouchy cantankerous fellow but i think he'd be very interesting company!.
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dgp
Many, but quickly I could mention the following:
Broken Promises
Talesin
LeavingWT
Farkel
Mouthy
Terry
YKnot
Poopsiecakes
JWFacts
Dogpatch
Outlaw
Blondie
JGNat
Lady Lee
Violia
Justitia Themis
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The Story of a Modern Famine - 1984 Ethiopia
by jgnat inan athiest argument for an uncaring or non-existent god is suffering, say, as in starving children.
i consider this a strawman argument but there you go.. the apologists defence is that humankind has been given all the tools for health and prosperity, and has failed in their duty.
the resultant victims will receive their reward in the afterlife.
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dgp
The Lord will save me from your attacks, Yadda. He will set a limit to your anger and will help you see I did not misquote you.
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The Story of a Modern Famine - 1984 Ethiopia
by jgnat inan athiest argument for an uncaring or non-existent god is suffering, say, as in starving children.
i consider this a strawman argument but there you go.. the apologists defence is that humankind has been given all the tools for health and prosperity, and has failed in their duty.
the resultant victims will receive their reward in the afterlife.
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dgp
Yes, you can benefit from a divine ideal. But, since I don't think there are divinities, I would want everyone to "shoot for above average" with respect to other things.
Good video, by the way.
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The Story of a Modern Famine - 1984 Ethiopia
by jgnat inan athiest argument for an uncaring or non-existent god is suffering, say, as in starving children.
i consider this a strawman argument but there you go.. the apologists defence is that humankind has been given all the tools for health and prosperity, and has failed in their duty.
the resultant victims will receive their reward in the afterlife.
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dgp
The Lord already knew Job would withstand all that suffering, but he went ahead with that silly game. Sheep and people had to die so that Job would suffer. They were not even part of the game, except as pawns.
If you believe in a god who can intervene in human affairs but refuses to do so, you have to accept that the Lord may sometimes be a bit of a bad guy. And you would only be "biblical".
The Lord set a limit on Satan's badness
I beg to differ. Satan is free to be as bad as he wants. Isn't he tempting us all the time (with things such as Sparlock)? Could the Lord allow zero tolerance for Satan's badness? Yes. Does he? No, because for some reason most of us are going to be annihilated, and Satan seems to be an essential part of the plot.
Sometimes the Lord intervenes in human affairs, as when Joshua killed I don't remember what Canaanite people. What had the Canaanites done to deserve that rage? They were not worshipping him. But, if you choose one people, then you leave all others out. Why couldn't the Lord choose all peoples from the very beginning, so all people could save themselves?
One could even argue that the Lord is indeed intervening in human affairs. Sometimes through actions, sometimes through omission. The Catholics say it very clear: "The Lord wanted it so, and we don't know why he did that but we have to submit to it".
That said, I still don't believe there is a God. Or a God that intervenes in human affairs.
So, JGNat, I think we're not pawns :-). I think there are no titans.
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The Story of a Modern Famine - 1984 Ethiopia
by jgnat inan athiest argument for an uncaring or non-existent god is suffering, say, as in starving children.
i consider this a strawman argument but there you go.. the apologists defence is that humankind has been given all the tools for health and prosperity, and has failed in their duty.
the resultant victims will receive their reward in the afterlife.
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dgp
Yadda:
"Ok, I will step back and you and humankind can have total self-determination but you must be prepared to reap with you sow; however, I reserve the right to prevent any depraved wickedness and unconscionable badness/evil that causes individual suffering and death to innocent adults and children that by any reasonable judgement has no bearing or affect upon humankinds right to indepedent governmental self-determination. Do you have any objection to that Satan?"
Just for the sake of offering an alternative viewpoint - I can't resist the feelign to make it be as in the magazines-, "Read the Book of Job".