Posts by darkl1ght3r

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what is best evidence against noah's flood?......

by oompa in

keep it simple if possible........i like the ice core samples.........thanks, this was not my big issue but i may be able to use it.......oompa.

feel free to direct me to another thread btw...... or maybe i should read the second page of olins thread!.

darkl1ght3r

OtWO said - "An earth covered with water does not explain the mountain ranges. Equal pressure on all the land pushing down does not cause some areas to massively push up, and they know the vast majority of mountains are not volcanic."

Right you are my friend, AND a minor point our WT buddies forget can be summed up in one simple question: Which is heavier, rock or water? If you drop a rock in water... it sinks. The "flood geology" explanation relies on a reversal of this fact. Any "sciency" sounding hypothesis to rationalize it inevitably leads to the conclusion that God made the earth as a ticking time bomb to eventually destroy everything on it, i.e. he had to set everything up like dominoes to eventually knock it down. And that begs the question, why would God create man and then immediately put a "gun" to his head. (Ummmm because God is evil and violent?) But fortuantely theres no real science behind those fundie explanations for "flood geology" anyway so... yeah.

Oh! And everyone who's interested in this topic should read the entire page(s) that Hopscotch linked to!!! Great stuff. The WT "responses" are classic.

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New Kingdom Melodies - samples on youtube

by Nostromo in

sorry if these have been posted before:.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygci6xgdwsg&feature=related.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p24vkzb5jw4.

darkl1ght3r

Finally got to listen...

The melodies are sufficiently ummm... "melodious" without being overbearing. But they still have that trademark "JW blandness" which for some reason is so pervasive in everything the org. does. The actual orchestra and accompanying music is beautifully done... it's a shame that it'll be used for such a nefarious purpose.

But, seriously they should get P. Diddy to do a Bad Boy remix on it or something. Maybe with a guest rapper at the end of one like Ol' Dirty Bastard or Jay-Z. Spice it up.

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Most annoying and irritating comments by JWs

by whathehadas in

since i'm still suffering in this crackerjacks organization, these are some of statements that just drive me nuts.

1. in service: "we are not here to convert you" funny how jws have the true religion but resort to deception and outright lies in order to get people to listen

2. to other jws: "we won't have to deal with this in the new system" 7 billion evil doers dead and gone, no longer create problems for us

darkl1ght3r

"That's commendable."

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Studying "What Does the Bible Really Teach?"

by homeschool in

i can't believe it.

i've actually had two studies with my sister from that book.

yesterday, she told me i was being argumentative.

darkl1ght3r

Nice job Homeschool... keep it up! I really wish I could "study" with my brother...

An interesting point I discovered in my own research on "Jehovah"... Not only is that name a mispronunciation of a mistranslation, so the JWs are wrong to be promoting that as "God's Name" (it's not), but you would think that in modern Israel, Jehovah's Witnesses would be called Yahweh's Witnesses... but they're not. The silly dubs take that mispronunciation of a mistranslation and RE-translate it back into modern Hebrew!!! Yep, they're using the modern Hebrew translation of the English rendering of "Jehovah" over there. What an insult. So they've taken the Jews God, westernized/bastardized him, repackaged him, and are now trying to sell him back to the Jewish people under a new label that they don't even recognize!!! No wonder modern Israelis hate the JWs so much.

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Hello id like to intruduce myself

by Belly in

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ive been lurking this site for quite a while but for some reason never could muster up the courage to post.. let me give a little background on my self.. i am 18 and male an still living with my parents.

i was baptised at 15 basically against my will (by cracking under the pressure) but only truly broke out of the drone like mindswhen i was 17. since then its been totall choas in my life all of it stemming from the orginization of course.

my parents are the defenition of brainwashed wittnesses, my father even belives he is anointed.. after i got baptised i suffered from intense deppression and with a little soul searching, after a year i realized that i need some time for my self.

darkl1ght3r

It's going to be rough getting up on your own two feet, but if you keep your head on straight and stay determined, you'll start to discover just how great life can be. Hang in there... and welcome!

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New Kingdom Melodies - samples on youtube

by Nostromo in

sorry if these have been posted before:.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygci6xgdwsg&feature=related.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p24vkzb5jw4.

darkl1ght3r

Now now... you people complain but remember they don't want anything that stirs up strong emotions. Nothing that ignites passion.

I never could stand the Kingom Melodies. Even when I was a true believer. I thought they had their place and all, but I used to look at the people who used to listen to them for "pleasure" as freaks of nature. I'd rather listen to feral cats mating.

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Most annoying and irritating comments by JWs

by whathehadas in

since i'm still suffering in this crackerjacks organization, these are some of statements that just drive me nuts.

1. in service: "we are not here to convert you" funny how jws have the true religion but resort to deception and outright lies in order to get people to listen

2. to other jws: "we won't have to deal with this in the new system" 7 billion evil doers dead and gone, no longer create problems for us

darkl1ght3r

Two things that have been burned into my head... both from the same District Overseer:

"We should be thankful that we are not required to take up arms in defense of Jehovah's name. However we should be prepared to do so if commanded by Jehovah through the Faithful and Discreet Slave. If Jehovah tells us to go and kill in his name then that's what we must do. I know I can think of a few people I'd like to kill."

Also by the same DO, referring to Black people (he himself was black): "...we are an ugly race. Perhaps Jehovah will make us right in the new system." ...

I'm not even black, and I was deeply deeply offended by that. I guess that moron has never heard of Beyonce Knowles, Alicia Keyes, Zoe Saldana, Tyra Banks, Thandie Newton, Angela Basset, Tyson Beckford, Will Smith, etc...

To be fair, most (if not all) of the dubs I spoke with who also heard these comments were also offended. But still, where was Jehovah's holy spirit to prevent him from making such asinine comments?!?!

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Reconciling religion and science

by Amha·aret in

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http://blog.newhumanist.org.uk/2009/08/reconciling-religion-and-science-and.html.

http://www.metro.co.uk/fame/interviews/article.html?dr_andrew_parker:_the_bible_got_everything_right&in_article_id=713776&in_page_id=11.

"not only is the sequence of events in genesis scientifically correct but some of the events themselves are really quite precise, which would have been impossible for a human to know at that time.

darkl1ght3r

They've already used that quote or a similar one... they used it in that [SARCASM] extremely well researched and honest publication called Life How Did it Get Here - By Evolution or By Creation? [/SARCASM] and it's complete and utter bullsh!t. The sequence of events in Genesis IN NO WAY resembles what we know from science. The very title of that book betrays a complete ignorance of science and what evolution is.

First of all Genesis says the earth was created before the sun. It even has light appearing before the sun. Another example is that it describes fruit bearing trees as coming before animals, when in fact fruit trees were rather late arrivals (AFTER dinosaurs!) on the scene. These are just a couple of the numerous problems with the Idea that Genesis "got it right" somehow.

If we are to grant that to Genesis, then we must also say that the Enuma Elish (Babylonian Creation Myth) "got it right" because it shows a similar progression of events. In any case, either myth can be "massaged" "rationalized" and "stretched" to fit a few cherry picked "facts" that have also been "massaged" "rationalized" and "stretched" untill... viola! You've got God revealing the order of creation to the Babylonians, errrr... I mean Hebrews.

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daft fader is a girl

by Daft Fader in

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yes i am xx.

darkl1ght3r

Kewl. I like girls. lol

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WT Society Makes JW's Feel Bad about Themselves - No Self Worth

by flipper in

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i have noticed this a lot in attitudes of witness relatives i've talked with over the last few years , as well as other former witness friends i have talked to.

many witnesses feel bad about themselves due to having it drilled into them that we are all " sinners " who allegedly inherited " sin and imperfection " from adam and eve .

that essentially humans are " born dead " or in a " dying " condition due to alleged " inherited sin " .

darkl1ght3r

I agree. In the same vane, I always bristled at the idea that there are things that we humans were never meant or able to understand so we should just trust God (aka the Governeing Body). In particualr all the sciency questions. Find something that doesn't jibe with the Bible? Well we humans cant understand such things so we shouldn't trust secular sources on those matters. Because men are imperfect and let their selfish agendas get in the way of finding truth. Oh how right they are on that last bit. Hypocrites.

Goes right along with the "humanity is worthless scum" idea. Well... no we're not. Skrew you Watchtower.