Which of course gives rise to all sorts of dilemmas and nonsense about abortion (what happens to the created souls when the foetus auto-aborts, for example?), "limbo" etc.
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At what point in embryonic development does the soul develop?
by cantleave ini was reading about some amazing developments in our understanding and manipulation of pluripotent stem cells, for those interested i will post the link below.. whilst i was reading it a question came to me - do believers think that these cells contain a "soul"?
when does the soul enter the the biological entity?
is it at the time of gamete production?
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'Trusted' Jehovahs Witness raped and sexually abused girls
by cliff in'trusted' jehovahs witness raped and sexually abused girls.
court: barry furlong arrives at bournemouth crown court.
first published tuesday 9 december 2014 in news by jane reader.
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'Trusted' Jehovahs Witness raped and sexually abused girls
by cliff in'trusted' jehovahs witness raped and sexually abused girls.
court: barry furlong arrives at bournemouth crown court.
first published tuesday 9 december 2014 in news by jane reader.
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'Trusted' Jehovah’s Witness ‘raped and sexually abused girls’
COURT: Barry Furlong arrives at Bournemouth Crown Court
First published Tuesday 9 December 2014 in News by Jane Reader
A TRUSTED senior figure in Bournemouth Jehovah’s Witness community raped and sexually abused children over a period of nearly 17 years, a court heard yesterday.
Barry Furlong, a former fireman, attacked four girls – the youngest aged just five – who didn’t report what had happened to them for many years because they feared they would not be believed, Bournemouth Crown Court was told.
Now 69-year-old, Furlong, of Keeble Crescent, Kinson, is accused of four charges of rape, four of indecent assault and six of indecency with a child, alleged to have been committed between December 1979 and November 1996.
He denies all of the charges.
Opening the case for the prosecution, Mark Worsley said Furlong, a father-of-two, held a top position as Ministerial Servant at the time of the offences.
A jury of six men and six women was told: “The allegations take place in the context of the Jehovah’s Witness congregation in Kinson at the time in Bournemouth.
“When a person gets to that level, the abused children found it impossible at the time to disclose what had happened to them.
“Why would anyone believe what they had to say against the word of a trusted man like Barry Furlong?”
Mr Worsley stressed it was not a trial about Jehovah’s Witnesses but “a trial about a number of children within that context”.
The jury was told that it would hear from one victim who claims that she was 10 years old when she was sexually assaulted.
Mr Worsley said: “He told her not to tell anyone else or she would not get into the New Order, a term for a kind of heaven. She didn’t tell anyone because the defendant had told her not to.”
Speaking of the alleged victim of the offences of rape, Mr Worsley added: “He was a pillar of the community – who would believe her? She also felt ashamed that this was happening to her. She knew what he was doing was not right.”
The trial continues.
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I teachers sex abuse in I school costs 139 million settlement. LA Times
by prologos inthe high cost of institutional negligence in protecting children: 139 000 000.- for one offender.. google la times miramonte school --.. .
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Just the title line, Talesin. It implies more than one teacher!
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See? It's all in the mind!
by cliff inhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-29939672.
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Pope says Big bang and Evolution are correct !
by Phizzy infrom the u.k independent newspaper :.
" the theories of evolution and the big bang are real and god is not a magician with a magic wand, pope francis has declared.. speaking at the pontifical academy of sciences, the pope made comments which experts said put an end to the pseudo theories of creationism and intelligent design that some argue were encouraged by his predecessor, benedict xvi.. francis explained that both scientific theories were not incompatible with the existence of a creator arguing instead that they require it.. when we read about creation in genesis, we run the risk of imagining god was a magician, with a magic wand able to do everything.
but that is not so, francis said.. he added: he created human beings and let them develop according to the internal laws that he gave to each one so they would reach their fulfilment.. the big bang, which today we hold to be the origin of the world, does not contradict the intervention of the divine creator but, rather, requires it.. evolution in nature is not inconsistent with the notion of creation, because evolution requires the creation of beings that evolve.. the catholic church has long had a reputation for being anti-science most famously when galileo faced the inquisition and was forced to retract his heretic theory that the earth revolved around the sun.. but pope franciss comments were more in keeping with the progressive work of pope pius xii, who opened the door to the idea of evolution and actively welcomed the big bang theory.
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To be fair, he only claims infallibility when wearing the "I am now infallible" hat.
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Evidence Regarding the Evolution of Cetaceans - Whales etc
by cofty inthis excellent little video sumamrises some of the evidence for the evolutionary history of cetaceans.. if focuses on comparative anatomy, embryology, fossils and dna.. .... .
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" Promoting the art of critical thinking by exposing people to the simple beauty of science.
We create short animations using neutral language."
Is their mission statement. The "Donations" tab on their website invites support for this.
Maybe you see something I missed? Explain please
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Taking on Jehovah's Witnesses fake Child Safeguarding Policy in the UK
by Watchtower-Free infound this on youtube.
this is louise goode .
shes also on facebook.
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I'm afraid that the UK Charity Commission is underfunded, understaffed and overworked, just like many government agencies.
The chances of them taking on a (even minor) religeon is effectively zero. They don't need it or have any kind of crusading zeal.
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Scottish independance in two days what do you think?
by barry inone thing i would like to say is will the union jack be changed because the scottish flag is incorpreted in it.
if the union jack is changed will we change our australian flag because the union jack is in our flag?
even hawawi has the union jack also fiji and many other commonwealth countries.. .
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Excellent links, Besty!
The breakdown of votes / age is particularly telling.
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Princess Diana's death.
by quellycatface inwhat are your thoughts?
accident or assassination?.
i still get upset over this.
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You have obvously never driven in Paris ...