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  If you were raised in a home with a JW parent and a non-JW parent: a few questions

  by Lady Lee in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if you were raised in a home with a jw parent and a non-jw parent: a few questions.. i am going to be addressing the international cultic studies association (icsa) in july at the conference in montreal.

  my focus is on 3 groups.

  the third group consists of people people who grew up in homes where one parent was a jw and the other wasn't.

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  1. Was your non-JW parent ever a JW? No.
  2. Who was responsible for your religious upbringing? The JW or the non-JW? The JW parent was responsible.
  3. Did they argue about it? Not much. My father wanted to keep peace in the home, so he didn't interfere for the most part.
  4. Were you forced to go? "Evidently not". I could choose not to go. I would also be choosing to get a beating, so...I "chose" to go.
  5. Did the non-JW parent have any real say in how the family celebrated holidays? My father took me to celebrate my fourth birthday, but I think that was my last holiday. The main thing was that he had no desire to celebrate himself as his family situation as a child was pretty screwed up. So it worked out.
  6. Over all what impact did this split household have on your childhood and even later in life? Well, I figured that my dad was 'worldly' and would probably die at Armageddon. I tried not to think about it too much. A traumatic event in our family (my own attempted suicide out of guilt and depression) caused him to start attending our meetings. I gave a talk at a circuit assembly, and the district overseer gave me a 'W' (Work On It). I took it hard, and my dad got p.o.'d and said he'd never attend another meeting again, because it was nonsense that we were being graded like it was a beauty contest.
  7. What would you want therapists to know about your situation? Never thought it was relevant. With the JW parent controlling everything, it was like having one parent rather than two--I felt trained to disregard my father's ideas as less than relevant.
  8. Any other thoughts? Yeah. It sucked. Even with all that, my dad was and is a stand-up guy. I'd be lucky to be half the man he is. Because even with no understanding of all that I had to learn to get out of the JWs, he knew a load o' crap when he saw it. I'm glad he never joined up. In its own way, it helped balance me out, without me even realizing it.

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  I AM THINKING OF BECOMING A CULT LEADER- ANY SUGGESTION?

  by Mr Facts in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i am quite impressed at the power the gb wields globally and it prompted in me the strong desire to start my own religious cult.

  i wouldnt any hurt anyone though, my goal is just to experience the privilege that power and authority gives and in the process grow financial empire.. i am presently putting down some strategies down in paper and i have been watching many videos on youtube and accessing cult-related materials, learning from cult leaders arround the world and observing their modus operandi.

  please if you do have any suggestion, freely offer it, i will appreciate it so much.. .

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  My suggestion? Don't.

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  New DVD "Become Jehovah's Friend"

  by treadnh2o in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hey peeps,.

  it's been a long while since i've posted (i am completely out - wife and kids still in) but thought you might this interesting.. they came home from the district convention yesterday with the new dvd intended for kids.

  they popped it in right away and this is what happens:.

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  EE, thank you for the Worf facepalm. After watching those videos, I'm just stunned, really. Stunned.

  I would've thought it would have made more sense for the kid to be playing with an airplane after the incident with the 'Warrior Wizard" or whatever. But hey, it did make for a cool intro. Even so, the Mom in this story seems (1) unusually stressed out and overworked, and (2) insidiously creepy. I mean, wow. Are they sending some kind of message about women, about how the GB feels about women? Or about how too many women actually are in the organization, especially those who try to be Sister Perfect? Because if this is how all women are supposed to be, then being a single JW is not such a bad idea...then again, the marital due may be equally crazy, especially with Esteban (translated "Steve", as no doubt the wife is "Selma", who took a punch or three until he became==>), the JW Latin Lover...

  As for the dad, he didn't have to help Caleb clean up the mess he made--and if I was the Dad, I may or may not have helped, depending on the kid's ability to clean by that age. The kid has to see that it was his mistake and he has to own it by cleaning up the mess. But quite simply, why did the Dad feel it necessary to sit down and have a scriptural discussion with a very small child about something as simple as tracking dirt on the floor? It was an honest mistake, not an existential crisis requiring divine instruction. He's a kid, just tell him to take his shoes off, then clean up the mess he made. God doesn't need to enter the picture over every little thing. It seems like the Dad is almost rubbing it in the kid's face that he just had to clean up the mess. I've been on the receiving end of that kind of talk and it makes a child feel far worse than they really need to feel over an honest mistake.

  But it's just unsettling. It's like, I don't get why this kid doesn't just return the toy; why throw it away? Well, whatever. Odds are this "friend" was a JW kid, for all we know, ha ha... But it just seems like this would be a really disturbing family to belong to. There's just something off-normal about it. I mean, if, and I'm just going to call her 'Selma', since I don't know her name in the video, if they said it, if 'Selma' is like this with her kid, how does she regard her husband? I'm just curious as to that dynamic. It seems like she's not really the kind of person anyone would want to be around. Hence, maybe she wants to take all that frustration out on Caleb and make sure he doesn't have any friends, either... Nah, that's speculation.

  Also, the need to pick up his toys...he has to have this detailed vision of utter household destruction if he doesn't clean up? Goes to show how extreme the mentality is supposed to be for him, then. The fact that the lesson is obedience and not cleaning up is unsettling in itself. Because shouldn't the lesson be cleaning up, not merely obedience for the sake of obedience? Because obedience isn't always a good idea in itself--unless you're the Governing Body... A valuable opportunity to teach a lesson about cleanliness in the home is passed up for the chance to emphasize brainless obedience. Because we don't want to teach our kids to keep their homes clean because it's important; we just want to teach them to obey, so that when they grow up, they continue to be...obedient children....

  But the unsettling thing is that this is only the beginning. I mean, what else are they going to be talking about? Will it be this same family in the next episode? Dating? TV? Video games? Plaid shirts?

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  Thank our friends at JW Talk for the Convention Release Scans

  by puffthedragon in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  well our dear faithful ones at jwtalk have seen fit to provide jehovah's "food at the proper time" earlier to the rest of the world than their governing body sees fit, so to follow are the scans from the convention.. .

  dvd front:.

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  Maybe it's just me, but the font on this 'Walk by Faith' DVD looks really creepy to me. Like creepy in that seriously a cult sort of way. I mean, duh, I know, it's a cult, but...at least the font should look a little less dreary. It makes you think those people in the picture are about to hang themselves or something. Geez...and this cartoon DVD? Seriously, that HAS to be a joke, right? Right???? I mean, JWs meet Jimmy Neutron?? Or is it in the style of VeggieTales?

  Must investigate further. This is, for lack of a better term, f***ing disturbing. And I usually don't say stuff like that. It's f***ing disturbing.

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  If you are dating or married to a JW: A few questions

  by Lady Lee in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if you are dating or married to a jw: a few questions.

  i am going to be addressing the international cultic studies association (icsa) in july at the conference in montreal.

  my focus is on 3 groups.

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  So what are the other two groups you're looking for, Lady Lee? Or will that be a separate thread?

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  I'm curious...........how many of you are going out in Field Service tomorrow? I'm serious.

  by La Falta Habitacion Por Sr Hor-Hey!! in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just wondering.

  i'm going out in the morning, but i'm wondering who else here in undercover apostate land will be meeting up with their own respective groups for theocratic activity tomorrow.

  for those of you going, will you be preparing your presentations tonight?.

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  EE, you're one of a kind, bro. I guess I figured my hand would become withered if I pulled a stunt like that on a field service slip! Ha!

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  Love of video games = love of violence? August 2012 Awake!

  by sd-7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  page 4-5:.

  "video games: 'the uncomfortable fact is, videogames have an unhealthy obsession with bloodshed,' stated a british magazine for video-game enthusiasts.

  it added: 'to some degree, a love of videogames demands a love of violence.

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  I just had to include the most violent of all games, MEGA MAN. You kill the same 8 robots, TWICE, along with hundreds of other robots, and then blow up the a doctor's home--a DOCTOR!--and arrest him.

  Evil!

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  Love of video games = love of violence? August 2012 Awake!

  by sd-7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  page 4-5:.

  "video games: 'the uncomfortable fact is, videogames have an unhealthy obsession with bloodshed,' stated a british magazine for video-game enthusiasts.

  it added: 'to some degree, a love of videogames demands a love of violence.

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  ...And Goldeneye. Hmm. I don't remember shooting anyone in a bathroom...oh wait, yeah, I do...never mind.

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  Love of video games = love of violence? August 2012 Awake!

  by sd-7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  page 4-5:.

  "video games: 'the uncomfortable fact is, videogames have an unhealthy obsession with bloodshed,' stated a british magazine for video-game enthusiasts.

  it added: 'to some degree, a love of videogames demands a love of violence.

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  Violent video game known as 'Double Dragon'.

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  Love of video games = love of violence? August 2012 Awake!

  by sd-7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  page 4-5:.

  "video games: 'the uncomfortable fact is, videogames have an unhealthy obsession with bloodshed,' stated a british magazine for video-game enthusiasts.

  it added: 'to some degree, a love of videogames demands a love of violence.

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  One of the early video games that spurred on advocates was Double Dragon, the beginning showed a gang of thugs walk up, punch the lead character's girlfriend and then toss her over his shoulder (you could see her panties too, eeeek) and that set the stage for a Punch 'em up, fighting game to rescue the damsel in distress.

  What about the two women with the whips that would attack you? Or Abobo, the big bald guy who could slap you to death? Or those guys who would throw dynamite in your face? Or the most brutal of foes, stalactites!

  Howdy fellow goldeneye player sd-7.

  Yeah, that was my game back in high school. First-person made me dizzy, but I still played it a lot. Given the context of this post, I suppose praising the automatic shotgun that was in the game would be inappropriate...

  --sd-7