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  Blood Transfusion Increases Mortality in Heart Attacks

  by Earnest in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i understand that the objection to blood transfusions by jehovah's witnesses is purely a scriptural one.

  whether or not there are medical benefits to avoiding blood transfusions is, or should be, irrelevant.

  however, for those who are not convinced by jw understanding of the scriptures in this regard, and those who don't believe either in the bible and/or in god, the fact that blood transfusion is associated with increased mortality in heart attacks may be of interest.. a systematic search of studies published between january 1, 1966, and march 31, 2012, was conducted using medline, embase, cinahl, scopus, web of science, and cochrane central register of controlled trials databases.

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  sd-7

  Wouldn't people who have had a heart attack have an increased mortality rate anyway? They just had a heart attack, man.

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  Came clean to the wife and all is good!

  by Comatose in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been reading steven hassan's books as well studying like never before.

  my wife has seen the amount studying i am doing, just hasnt known what all subjects instudy.

  over the last few weeks i've slowly shared certain things.

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  sd-7

  Riiight. All is good. I have trouble believing that, because I've seen enough to know better. But I shouldn't project my own failed experience onto yours. If I were you, though, I would still anticipate betrayal. Don't assume she's buying all this. She might be ready to turn you in and just hasn't said anything yet. To you.

  But hey, I hope what happened to me doesn't happen to you. So I won't say I'm not happy for you. I'll just say that I'm not ready to celebrate just yet.

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  Two Witnesses stuck in a elevator or car without Chaperon. Would they fornicate? Yes/No

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  im amazed how going witnessing sisters who knew me for decades would sit only in the back seat on the way to the hall...to avoid any sex at the traffic lights!!!

  and chaperons 1840's style are needed because two witnesses alone for 10 minutes would go at it like animals even after all the training watchtower articles and talks being jahs clean org.

  and all..

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  sd-7

  Well, towards the end, when I was on return visits, and the brother took someone else and left me in the car with his really hot wife, I got out of the car and stood there for awhile until they got back. But it was mostly because I felt horny in general...but that was kind of weird, so I got over it, since I was the only one in the back seat anyway. I was dealing with a lot of guilt issues even though I'd already started waking up by that time.

  But clearly, it depends on the attraction between the two. It doesn't just happen.

  It calls to mind something my wife was saying to me earlier this week, but it'd derail this thread if I go on, so...I could start another thread on that subject, but it wouldn't be worth it, I'd just end up angry and I really don't need that.

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  Blood Issue on Grey's Anatomy Tonight

  by jamiebowers in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  at 9 pm on abc.

  previews in last two videos on this link:.

  http://www.wetpaint.com/greys-anatomy/articles/greys-anatomy-season-9-episode-13-spoilers-7-things-we-learned-from-the-sneak-peeks-video.

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  sd-7

  Actually it did matter SD 7, I thought it was very well done

  Perhaps you're right. I suppose even if a JW changed the channel after seeing what the episode was about, those tiny threads of doubt have already begun to appear. I guess I'm not feeling overly optimistic today.

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  Even after reading Crisis of Conscience, one thing (at least) still puzzled me

  by kepler in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it was several years back and from time to time i will look something up in the index.

  all manner of things about jw life are revealed - as well as discussions within the leadership, plus historical and contemporary controversies - but there is still something i missed.. please excuse me if this is not a detailed summary.

  when the drum roll starts for the purge, it appears that the friends and associates of ray franz are targeted first.

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  sd-7

  What I gather from this is that he did report back, but we don't get to hear the reaction. We are left to draw a conclusion about whether the GB decided to Deep Six what they heard. Deep six it in every possible way

  Having read it myself, I can say with certainty that Ray Franz definitely did mention a reaction. The reaction was that they decided to keep the 607 date. I'm pretty sure he spelled that out. I would recommend reading it again, if you missed that part. A detailed discussion of just what the Governing Body did to Carl Olof Jonsson in response to this issue can be found in 'The Gentile Times Reconsidered'. I don't think any doubt will be left about what the Governing Body decided to do after you read that one.

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  So...why is taking blood essentially viewed as unforgivable by the WT?

  by sd-7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  been hearing about this 'grey's anatomy' episode, and while i didn't see it, it brought up a question i wanted to throw out there, albeit a long-winded one, as is my usual nature.. the fact that people would rather die than take blood, as if...if they take it, they're doomed for sure to not make the new system--it doesn't make sense to me.

  people both in the organization and the bible stories are forgiven for heinous crimes, murder, adultery, child sacrifice, everything up to and including denying jesus altogether.

  (let's not forget child molestation and rape, apparently...) so why does it seem like this one act is presented to jws as one that's never to be forgiven?.

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  Been hearing about this 'Grey's Anatomy' episode, and while I didn't see it, it brought up a question I wanted to throw out there, albeit a long-winded one, as is my usual nature.

  The fact that people would rather die than take blood, as if...if they take it, they're doomed for sure to not make the new system--it doesn't make sense to me. People both in the organization and the Bible stories are forgiven for heinous crimes, murder, adultery, child sacrifice, everything up to and including denying Jesus altogether. (Let's not forget child molestation and rape, apparently...) So why does it seem like this one act is presented to JWs as one that's never to be forgiven?

  The Society recently said in an article, "If we die, we cannot serve [Jehovah] at all." Yet, if a person made this supposedly serious sin, repented, and spent years or even decades continuing to serve God, wouldn't that be better than dying with one less sin on your conscience? Or will the blood transfusion turn you into a raving, idolatrous fornicator who snorts coke while watching child porn and stabbing your wife in the face? Too graphic? I'm just trying to understand, is all.

  I don't know if JWs ever really ponder the concept of Jesus' sacrifice. It's mentioned somewhere along the way, but...think about it. If Jesus' blood is supposed to forgive the sins of the entire world (got to be hundreds of trillions of them going on every day), how is it that one person taking blood would somehow be the last straw? Particularly glaring is the fact that Acts 15:28, 29 doesn't even mention any kind of penalty for actually, literally eating blood. Paul doesn't mention it in any of his letters to the congregations as drawing some kind of penalty of expulsion. Nor do Peter, John, James, or Jude. I'm guessing they weren't all that worried about people eating blood.

  The Society is always an expert at creating guilty feelings where none really need to exist, and the blood rule is no exception. Or wait...let me...Revelation, you say? There's something in there? "Outside are the dogs, and those eating blood, and--" What's that? That's not in there? Maybe 1 Corinthians 5, "Quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother who eats blood--" What? I'm reading it wrong? Galatians 5, the works of the flesh, it's got to be in there! "Fornication, uncleanness, loose [ahem--brazen!] conduct, eating blood--" What? Not right, my Bible's wrong? I need a new Bible...or maybe it fits under 'uncleanness', except that uncleanness of the sort that eating blood would give you in those times wasn't exactly binding on a Christian, was it?

  Hmm. Of course I know my logic here doesn't even matter. The reasons don't matter to a JW, what matters is that the Society said so.

  Sadly, it seems that the life of a JW is an endlessly losing, rigged game of 'Simon Says'.

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  being sheltered as Jw

  by d in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was very sheltered as a jw.

  bu since i left 5 yrs ago i have as a person both in school and in life.

  i have noticed that i am more self confident with myself and i am more objective about things.

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  sd-7

  "Sheltered", huh? That's actually a term that was leveled at me, some...14 or 15 years ago. A mentor at my first job said it to me. I hadn't really understood at the time. I genuinely believed I was acting in my own best interests by going along with the sheltering.

  I had low self-esteem, never believed I was smart or handsome or any of the things people kept saying I was. I couldn't see those things, all I could see was what I was doing wrong as far as the JWs.

  I still don't have that much self-esteem, but I know more about myself than I ever have before. I'm able to not be so judgmental of people who are different from me. I read so much more and question things so much more. I have an angry streak to me now that is probably worse than I've ever experienced, after seeing the hypocrisy in action during my judicial committee and its fallout.

  But apart from that, the only stuff I really notice is having a beard, watching an R-rated movie if I want, and sleeping in rather than going out to recruit people.

  I guess I have regressed a bit as far as the 'sheltered' side of things. I generally don't leave home unless it's to do something for my wife or to take her somewhere. I have no real-life friends of my own and no social life beyond the computer. And I go along with it because I think I'm acting in my own best interests. ...

  Funny. I was just thinking of changing that doormat gravatar. Maybe I'll just leave it for now...

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  BORN-INS! What Were The Most Annoying Quotes Your Parents Would Say?

  by OneStepOut93 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  regarding worldly people, shows or toys?

  etc...what quotes annoyed you the most?.

  for me it was "well, you have to remember, they're worldly"... "don't trust anyone who isn't in the truth" "they may be nice but they are not friends of jehovah"... just a few to name.

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  sd-7

  When I'd attempted suicide 15 years ago (almost to the day, in fact), over getting rejected by a girl, I can remember Mom asking me, "Did you commit fornication?" before I could even finish explaining what had happened; all I'd said was that there was a girl up until that point. Dude. I almost died, and you're worried about whether or not I committed fornication?? Don't you want to at least, you know, offer some kind of helpful guidance that doesn't involve all the reasons I'm in trouble? (For the record, no, I didn't--she was far too pretty to go for a guy like me. It was like that girl who says she wishes more guys were like you, and then dates everybody but you.)

  Other than that, I pretty much blocked out a lot of stuff that happened over the last 20 years or so. I was a loyalist, so it's harder to find fault with Mom over all that. I prefer not to ponder it, and yet maybe it's where everything went wrong. Because she was at least as much of a bully as my big brother was. I didn't get pushed around and laughed at school, I got it at home. Most people actually really liked me at school and I was afraid to have anything to do with them so I stayed aloof.

  My brother once said I was his role model. You don't rough up your role model, you try to imitate them. But probably he got beatings a lot as a kid, and just passed on the beatings to me. Nothing too extreme, apart from that time my head went through the wall. But that was a freak accident. Well, so was the time my heel went through the same wall. But you get the idea.

  Maybe being shunned by them doesn't bother me all that much because I really didn't like my brother all that much towards the end, and Mom was just someone I got used to obeying without question and there wasn't much more to it than that. Earning her approval was everything. I wonder if that's played itself out in my relationships. Give the woman an emotional blank check and hope she writes in a number low enough that it doesn't bounce. And keep trying to stay ahead on deposits, all in vain.

  Okay, that's important, but, I'll shut up now. Probably disrupting the flow of this nice thread.

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  Vengeance Dad Meme--I think I want to do some JW-based ones...

  by sd-7 in

  1. social
  2. humour

  i was just reading some random memes and came across this one.

  it's truly insane, but maybe my sense of humor is such that i laughed rather hard at quite a few of the ones using this photo.

  i was thinking, how could i adapt this one to jws?

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  sd-7

  YES! Exactly like that! Ha ha ha!

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  Blood Issue on Grey's Anatomy Tonight

  by jamiebowers in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  at 9 pm on abc.

  previews in last two videos on this link:.

  http://www.wetpaint.com/greys-anatomy/articles/greys-anatomy-season-9-episode-13-spoilers-7-things-we-learned-from-the-sneak-peeks-video.

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  Well, it won't matter, you know. Especially if they're dumb enough to have a JW quote the King James Version of Leviticus like 'The Practice' did in their episode years ago. Even the slightest inaccuracy will shut down the JW brain there...but we'll see how it goes. Well, I might not. Probably won't even by home by 9:00. Got to get out of the house earlier...

  --sd-7