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  My Book of Bible Stories--extremist?

  by sd-7 in

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  in lands where there is no love of god or freedom, jehovah's witnesses are being persecuted for speaking about the good news of the kingdom.

  why are these lovers of peace being persecuted?

  god's word tells us: "all who are living in godly devotion in association with christ jesus will also be persecuted.

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  Ah, this was an old classic thread of mine. Thanks for bringing it to life again!

  I did another thread awhile back, about the chapter on Dinah, and how it omits the mention of rape and merely says it was wrong because a man and woman who aren't married shouldn't lie together. Insert Insanity Wolf meme here...

  But yeah, this was clearly a sick sort of book. I think what I felt as I looked at the graphic violence in it was disturbed, I just didn't realize that's what the feeling was at the time.

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  Update on Candace Conti's Case

  by mind blown in

  1. watchtower
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  just ran upon this info:.

  candace conti beats the watchtower society!submitted by teeny on august 27, 2012 - 9:22 pm .

  http://www.jehovahswitnessblog.com/jw-lawsuits/candace-conti-beats-the-watchtower-society/?fb_action_ids=348543075229733&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=aggregation&fb_aggregation_id=246965925417366.

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  The other thing I'm thinking of, as I read this transcript, is, the elders barely even take time to greet people before they do their five-man huddle at meetings, in many cases. It's highly unlikely, based on the general conduct of elders, that they would have been able to really keep an eye on him or stop him from isolating a child somehow. He didn't grope his stepdaughter at the meeting, so obviously he wouldn't have done that to any other kid in plain view of everyone else.

  And they keep using the analogy of adultery as a basis for the need for confidentiality. Most people don't need a lot of protection from someone who commits adultery, because that person usually isn't preying on any and everyone. I just don't get it...(sigh)

  For whatever reason, they think that because Awake! says the obvious, that parents need to protect their kids, that this excuses the Society from any responsibility when, heck, the elders won't even give them the full story about what happened, apparently. It's crazy.

  The other thing is, how is it confidential when (1) the entire body of elders is informed, (2) whoever you spoke to at Watchtower is informed, and (3) whoever reads the letter you sent to Watchtower is informed as well? That's like nearly 10 people you just told right there. Usually the rumor mill catches stuff people do, where I come from--but apparently not in this place.

  The guy was put on probation, and that doesn't prompt the elders to go and pay a visit, ask about how they're doing? Also, they don't speak to the 15-year-old stepdaughter alone, they ask her about molestation in front of both parents??? Yeah, that's going to work out well. Worse still, if they knew he was lying about it being an accident, what reason did they have to believe that what he told them was exactly what happened?

  Well, detectives these guys ain't.

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  What books, songs, artists, movies, etc were banned in your JW home?

  by serenitynow! in

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  my mother was very strict about entertainment.

  in school i was doing a project about teen suicide and had checked out some books on suicide and abortion.

  i had alot of explaining to do for that.

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  The facial reactions to my library said all I needed to know about the anti-learning and anti-intellectual culture Jehovah’s Witnesses live in.It is a sad commentary on a religion which professes a reverence for knowledge and learning that its members abhor both.

  Indeed.

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  Update on Candace Conti's Case

  by mind blown in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  just ran upon this info:.

  candace conti beats the watchtower society!submitted by teeny on august 27, 2012 - 9:22 pm .

  http://www.jehovahswitnessblog.com/jw-lawsuits/candace-conti-beats-the-watchtower-society/?fb_action_ids=348543075229733&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=aggregation&fb_aggregation_id=246965925417366.

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  Interesting stuff. Still in the first day's transcript, p. 175 or so. So the elders think this guy has lied to them about molesting someone, but they don't mention lying as an additional sin in their letter to the Society? One would think that that would be a really important matter, as lying to the elders would generally mean you're insincere. Insincere...or unrepentant. Yet he wasn't DF'd, despite lying to them about something this serious. It's baffling to me, further still, that these elders, from what I have read so far, didn't follow up at all with this family to see how they were doing. One elder found out the police had been called and told the other...but no further shepherding calls? Nothing? I just don't get it.

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  Update on Candace Conti's Case

  by mind blown in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  just ran upon this info:.

  candace conti beats the watchtower society!submitted by teeny on august 27, 2012 - 9:22 pm .

  http://www.jehovahswitnessblog.com/jw-lawsuits/candace-conti-beats-the-watchtower-society/?fb_action_ids=348543075229733&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=aggregation&fb_aggregation_id=246965925417366.

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  d-7 can you pleeeease tell me what page its on or a linkS

  The quote about ministerial servants not giving sermons or conducting Bible studies is on pages 70-71 of the transcript for the first day of the trial.

  http://www.watchtowerdocuments.com/cases/Conti-Jury_Trial_Transcript-Day_1_May_29,_2012.pdf

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  Update on Candace Conti's Case

  by mind blown in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  just ran upon this info:.

  candace conti beats the watchtower society!submitted by teeny on august 27, 2012 - 9:22 pm .

  http://www.jehovahswitnessblog.com/jw-lawsuits/candace-conti-beats-the-watchtower-society/?fb_action_ids=348543075229733&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=aggregation&fb_aggregation_id=246965925417366.

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  These people are NOT qualified to be in any kind of counseling position or ANY position that affects people's lives for years to come.

  Agreed. Not that being a doctor would help if they're still just Watchtower policemen. Policemen? Oh. "Poor choice of words!"

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  "DO YOU RECALL?" Highlights From JWN Over the Last Year About The Circuit And District Assemblies.

  by ÁrbolesdeArabia in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jwn is always ahead of the curve, so with out further adoooo, i thought it would be a good idea to have a thread "do you recall?

  " like the watchtower had for it's magazine.

  you can qoute the thread by the members on jwn who were the first to break a story or inform you that what you use to believe was not reality!.

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  Suddenly I'm seeing gray-black-and-purple sprinkled carpet, purple chairs, and feeling an urge to raise my hand...

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  Assembly/Convention Schedules

  by Quendi in

  1. jw
  2. friends

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  Well, the assemblies were usually about an hour's drive from home for us. The conventions did require a 100+ mile drive (travel time varied from 2-5 hours depending on traffic), and at least $400-$500 extra expenses to pay for the room and food and gas for the trips to and from the convention site.

  It wasn't until I had a family of my own that I fully understood how hard it is to deal with that kind of cost. I can only imagine how difficult it is for people who earn even less than I do, and I don't earn that much. Guess you could use part of your tax refund, if you're lucky in that way (*ahem* fortunate).

  But clearly this is a hardship on a lot of people. I wish I could offer further on that, but my knowledge is limited.

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  The July 15 WT simplified:-- Winner takes ALL, --WE are the winners.

  by prologos in

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  2. friends

  math: 24:47 :"--he [christ] will appoint him [ the f&ds] over all his belongings.".

  the "all" like in the total, the cosmos, leaving nothing unclaimed.. so who is this f&d slave?

  as jesus asked?.

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  In short, they think Tom Jones' song 'Thunderball' was written about them. We get it.

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  Looooooooooong Prayers...

  by likeabird in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  let's have a bit of a laugh.. .

  who of you rolled your eyes when brother never ending prayers was called up to give the closing prayer?.

  who of you then proceeded to tap your feet, fidget loudly or start doing balancing acts off the back of the chair in front of you while waiting for it to end?.

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  There was always one person who gave those long prayers at the local meetings. I always tried my best to be patient and respectful of it. But then, I'm kind of too nice in that way.

  The conventions were the worst because I'd sometimes feel like the floor was moving and I was going to lean forward and fall all the way down the rows of chairs. I'd have to open my eyes for a moment or two to regain my bearings.

  --sd-7