Hey, that's excellent! Well, being 'invisibly present' isn't exactly all that helpful anyway. I mean, unless Jesus has a really good telecommuting/work-from-home thing going on, he kinda hasn't been in for the last century or so...
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the issue july 15th 2013 changes the understanding of the fds dramatically, and it was broiught out here and on other places this creates numerous problems.. here is another one:.
jesus is supposed to be the head of the congregation.
when something goes wrong, he is often portrayed as the one having control over his congregation and also that in time he will act, clean the congo and direct elders (being the stars in his hand).
Hey, that's excellent! Well, being 'invisibly present' isn't exactly all that helpful anyway. I mean, unless Jesus has a really good telecommuting/work-from-home thing going on, he kinda hasn't been in for the last century or so...
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the governing body would like to annouce at this momentous 1914-2014 divine love your nieghbor's wife convention a new brochure entitled: don't make jehovah sad if you know what's good for you and your loved ones, which will be offered to the public starting in january.
we would also like to mention at this time we also have another wonderful provision from jehovah's organization one that most if not all want to purchase and here it is for the first time a lovely out of this world head embracing "neck pillow" guaranteed to keep you upright at the meeting especially in this deep time of the end and after a hard's day at work washing windows, or sitting in a wheelchair.
and brothers don't we appreciate this wonderful love that the governing body have for all you brothers and sisters:{clap, clap, clap}.
But if you pick one up today the handling fee will be reduced to $8 so do the math brothers and save,,because both our time and our assets should be to praise Jehovah and lift up our heads because deliverence is getting closer and closer.
LOL!!! I was reading this in my 'convention speaker' voice and then I got to this part and it just got to be too hilarious! Ha ha ha! Can I incorporate that into a future issue of The Beast-Tower?
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my 20 year old niece and my mom are the only jw relatives i have.
her mom got kicked out for smoking and my brother ended the marriage because she was a bitch anyway.. but it's really unfortunate that my niece had to be dragged into the jws.
i really wish my brother would have put the brakes on it more.
The biggest problem I see with the whole JW dating life is that typically you do NOT end up dating multiple people, and therefore you don't learn about yourself and what you actually like in the opposite sex. When a JW starts dating, their hormones take over all brain activity.
Yeah. That's spot-on. It was the one thing that frustrated me most when I pondered the concept of dating as a young adult JW in my 20s and read the 'Young People Ask' book. Hormones take over when you think someone likes you and you really want to get physical with 'em, but you can't. And then...if you break up with them, you worry there won't be another person, and, well, I know for me I got really fixated on a person who clearly wasn't right for me by any stretch of the imagination. And I was so terrified of the opposite sex that I never really got to know a lot of young women and thus didn't really get a serious look at my options before settling down.
I guess, much as I hate to admit it, young people are so irrational that they kind of need a time where they get all of the sexual thoughts and feelings a bit more out of their system and get past that so they can appreciate the more important stuff for when they want to seriously pursue marriage. Repressing those feelings, to me, at least, makes objectively dating someone with a goal of marriage very difficult. They'd have been better off simply letting the old folks arrange the marriages--which they seem intent on doing anyway, one way or the other...
But it's clear that this is a side of my former self I have never attempted to deconstruct objectively. It may well be more important than anything else I've done so far, to address all of that. But hey, this thread ain't about me.
I can't blame you, as far as not attending the possible future wedding at a KH. Those were my least favorite events when I was younger...
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i remember when i was a "devout" jws i could not wait to get the new watchtowers and awakes from the wednesday nite theocratic ministry school.
i would actually salivate thinking of the new information jehovah had in the magazines for us.
i was "franatical" and i would go home still in my three piece suit and devour the magazines that very nite.
Well, I can't speak for Blondie--she spoke eloquently for herself, and in my opinion, just totally dunked on you and is like, hanging on the back of your neck, which makes for a magnificent photo op, I might add--but to an extent, I know I can't seem to shake reading their stuff. It's not a way of 'still being in' so much as it's a process that, for me, I feel like it's a monitoring of the machine. I need to know what my family is being exposed to, and I also need to remind myself why I made the decision to leave--this entity has a powerful pull on the mind, and it's critical for me, being a sensitive person, to keep reminding myself to be strong, to remember what they did and are doing, and to never let them dupe me into returning.
I also need to fully understand what was done to me, in the decades I was amongst them. The literature is the best way to deconstruct all that, at least now that I know how they think, more or less.
But absolutely, I enjoy Blondie's threads on the weekly study articles and usually try to read and comment on 'em if I can. She's one of my favorite posters especially because she's so expert at having great WT quotes to demonstrate the error of their reasoning or contradictions or etc. If I had half the brain power she's got...I'd be awfully happy.
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so, off we went to the dc.
the public talk was "what is truth".
in it, the speaker said, "the truth can stand up to any scrutiny.
Out of the corner of my eye, my wife, who was taking notes, looked up quickly, as if in shock at the statement, then glanced over at me.
This is a hopeful sign. Sometimes the exit process is the accumulation of a steady drip of unusual statements that don't fit with one's reality. It's always possible to just pour oneself into more activities to reduce the dissonance, but it could also go the other way and she could start to wake up. [In Christopher Lee voice:] "I hope so...for yooour sake."
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so, off we went to the dc.
the public talk was "what is truth".
in it, the speaker said, "the truth can stand up to any scrutiny.
I think to since it was the public talk they were kissing up to the visiting bible studies knowing that the rank and file will not take the bait.
Yup. Public Edition talk, in a Study Edition convention...
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was it worth attending?.
is your survival more sure now?.
which part of gods word is truth!
Just out of curiosity, can someone please tell me which DC congregations in Washington DC are assigned to.
If I'm not mistaken, you can find out via jw.org. I think there's a section for convention dates based on region.
I might add that I'm sure a lot of folks from the DC area are attending in Richmond, VA at the Coliseum this month. I'll be headin' down next weekend myself. Maybe I'll start a thread or three about how it goes when I'm down there.
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the jw's are taking it a little too far.
people have to wait in line and be tortured by the sight of this.. .
They're not even supposed to be using the word "free" on their display, unless they changed that recently or something. Also, I'm surprised they were allowed to do that right on top of government property. Well, whatever. Easier than streetwork, I would imagine, if you get to sit down...
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these are things that were said or insinuated, i start with the first 15.
enjoy!!.
1. working for a corporation in the city makes you fall out of the truth.. 2. if you become inactive or leave jehovah you will make your whole family sad and ruin everything.. 3. all worldly people cheat.. 4. all worldly people curse.. 5.
What happens when these young men marry that pretty little pioneer sister in the hall who also never had to do any chores because she was pioneering and had a mother that did everything for her?
She'll whine and nag until he does the chores, or no 'marital due' for him. Well, no 'marital due' anyway, but that'll just be another justification for it. Just a theory, though...
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these are things that were said or insinuated, i start with the first 15.
enjoy!!.
1. working for a corporation in the city makes you fall out of the truth.. 2. if you become inactive or leave jehovah you will make your whole family sad and ruin everything.. 3. all worldly people cheat.. 4. all worldly people curse.. 5.
The movie really illustrates how JW kids for the most part, are not equipped to handle life. No wonder the self-destruct at the first sign of hardship.
As a born-in, I completely agree. Emotional intelligence and maturity are extremely low. It's made for an unpleasant transition to adulthood.
" It's like a death.." LOL!! The kid wasn't even DF'd, and never was! Still, his growing up and becoming independent as children do, was likened to a death!?
I can remember how hurt I was when my brother was guilty of fornication back in high school. It's so weird looking back on how extreme and unnecessary it all was. I hope my kids don't have to go through this, but honestly I have no frame of reference to help them be more balanced in this regard. It makes me wonder what they'll be like in 20 years.
But the dramas have always been kinda weird. It certainly makes me wonder on what planet there would really be people who acted like this....
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