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  July 2014 WT cracks down on apostate debates and 'dance parties'

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the july 2014 study wt article titled "jehovah's people "renouce unrighteousness".

  par 9 and 10 .

  9. how did foolish and ignorant debates affect the early christian congregation?.

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  For instance, in the immediate context of 2 Timothy 2:19, we find that Paul tells Timothy “not to fight about words” and to “reject empty speeches.”(

  Huh? Since when did they suddenly start caring about context?

  Also, it appears that others were introducing controversial ideas. Even if the latter were not directly unscriptural, they were divisive

  So if it's not directly unscriptural, then it has to be indirectly unscriptural. What would be an example of an "indirectly unscriptural" idea, I wonder? I guess the target audience is left to wonder, too. Oh, right. The safest bet is to just believe whatever's in the WT. It's 'indirectly unscriptural' if it's not in a WT, even if it is actually Biblically correct.

  Good example, as I think of it is, wearing a beard. Perfectly okay, but 'indirectly unscriptural' because 'the brothers' say you should be clean-shaven. The rule itself is unscriptural, but since the 'brothers' made it, and you're not supposed to disobey them, breaking the rule is therefore 'indirectly unscriptural'. Nice.

  As for the dancing and drinking stuff, basically it's just the usual building a fence around the potential sin by avoiding a situation altogether. They're not saying nobody can have fun, just that people who are used to having fun beyond what is WT-authorized (ie. used to getting really drunk and naughty dancing) should probably just pass on the fun altogether, just to be safe. No more paranoid than they usually are about 'recreation'.

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  Have You Been Invited To The Memorial?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  one of my best friend's, who is an ex elder had two elders visit him at his home yesterday to invite him to the memorial.

  he was cordial to them because they were'nt over the top.. so far, i have had no invites, thank god..

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  Surprisingly, no. Although that unfortunate argument last time I was invited by the Mrs. might be a good reason why there's been no invite this year.

  Amended: Yes, my wife just invited me on Wednesday. Well, technically, she just asked if I was going to go. Strangely enough, my son started vomiting endlessly at that same moment. (He seems to be okay now, though, thankfully. He also managed to get out of going to the meeting--so it really worked out well, in its own way.) I'm hoping that was just coincidence, but he was doing what I was thinking, is all I can say. I told my wife I wasn't planning to go, and she said she wanted me to be there.

  At this point, it hasn't been brought up again. Part of me actually was considering going, but at this point, I couldn't go as a Christian, because I'm not one. If I were to go, it'd have to be for that reason and I'd partake just to show that Christians should partake. But since the ceremony no longer holds even the Biblical meaning for me, it would be preposterous to attend and would not help my efforts to at least not want to strangle all things WT-related.

  Also, as I was sitting in my car, two JWs came up and offered me an invite, but I simply said 'no thanks' and left it at that. So I've gotten a double helping of invites.

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  How do you get through the memorial?

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for family reasons, gorby and his wife and children has to visit the hall at april 14. our family accept that we are faders, but don't accept if we do not visit the memorial.. so, it seems a small investment: one evening love bombing for a year peace and rest.. but i hate the visit.

  headache.

  meeting the people knowing it's all fake love showing.. how do you get through it?.

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  I deal with it quite simply: a chocolate milk, stirred, not shaken, with the spoon left in the cup.

  But seriously though, if you've got an iPod, not a bad idea to bring it and turn it on. That got me through the last convention, just barely.

  --sd-7
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  Oh come on!!! seriously?? This weeks wt study!

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i'm sitting here at the mtg, and i can't believe the mind numbing stupidity of this weeks wt "study"...( i use the word study loosely too by the way...).

  how many dumb repeated questions can be posed to try and make a point?.

  the opening paragraph illustration re blindness is classic!

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  Hmm. I would actually attempt to read this article that's gotten so much attention, but...I like my blood pressure where it is--nice and stable. Still, it's been interesting to read your comments, folks.

  It's incredible. They can literally say 1=2 and have people believe it. This is where the heart of it all resides: it is the literature being studied, not the Bible. The Bible is just there to give the literature a semblance of authenticity.

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  What is the point of Judicial Committees??

  by quellycatface in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've had 2 jc's, both resulted in reproof.. but.....in church, the vicar asks us do reflect quitely on anything that we have done that we're not happy about and to ask for forgiveness in our heart.

  knowing that jesus will forgive us, if we are sorry and have faith in him.

  good.

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  Well, this is clearly an Old Testament trial at the city gates, except unlike in Israel, the trial is being conducted in private, so that the judges themselves are accountable only to themselves and the corporation they act as franchise managers for.

  It's an expression of control and power. Getting you to confess is a demonstration of power, and your presence there is your submission to their authority, a recognition of it.

  It's also a powerful way to inflict fear, guilt and shame upon you. Three men in trusted positions who hold a sort of life-and-death power over you--that's frightening if you truly believe it exists. It creates dependency upon the organization itself, as you feel afraid to displease it and thus lose your 'friends' or 'family'.

  It's a way to isolate and extract any who may begin to think for themselves. It's a way to protect the 'secrets' of the organization and silence those who might speak about those secrets from within. Thus, it insulates the collective from any critical thoughts.

  --sd-7
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  Did You Ever Feel Guilty Because You Deserted The JW Religion?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  once i left, i never yearned for anything associated with the religion.

  i didn't miss their doctrines, their erroneous thinking.

  i never felt guilty because i abandoned the religion i was raised in.. i believe the reason for my not feeling guilty is pretty simple.

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  I never felt guilty about leaving in terms of the doctrine. It became more and more clear the more I learned that I'd made the right choice. I did feel guilty because I had to hurt people I cared about in order to follow my conscience. I had to leave behind everyone I once knew and broke bread with.

  What hurt the most, and this dawned on me as I was reading CoC the first time, was that sense that no one I knew would ever believe me if I told them any of what I learned. They could never imagine that the people they trusted most were capable of manipulating information and people's lives in a way that I can only describe as evil.

  But it certainly can't be described in the terms from the old loaded language, as in "leaving the truth". The truth was never there in the first place, so the only thing left...was "leaving".

  --sd-7
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  4th Annual Memorial of Freedom

  by sd-7 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  dear false brothers and fellow servants of satan:.

  this is to inform you that the 4th annual memorial of freedom will be held next monday, april 14th, at sundown.

  please make arrangements to bring your own emblems--chocolate milk and pop tarts, or else some other food and beverage or "down, right strong punch" combo of your personal choice.

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  Do you reccommend Nestle Quick or chocolate syrup chocolate milk?

  As has already been mentioned, we do not seek to burden others through an excess of rules and regulations regarding this matter. Of course, wise individuals may make the personal decision of using Nesquik, as it contains more vitamins than most chocolate syrups. On the other hand, some may choose chocolate syrup because it can also be used to top ice cream, thus providing a 'double portion', as it were, of dairy-based products for the Memorial, such as when one has chocolate milk and vanilla ice cream with chocolate syrup on it. Each individual must make a personal decision based on his or her self-centered, prideful, immoral conscience that has fed on twisted reasonings.

  Your Brother,

  sd-7
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  4th Annual Memorial of Freedom

  by sd-7 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  dear false brothers and fellow servants of satan:.

  this is to inform you that the 4th annual memorial of freedom will be held next monday, april 14th, at sundown.

  please make arrangements to bring your own emblems--chocolate milk and pop tarts, or else some other food and beverage or "down, right strong punch" combo of your personal choice.

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  Dear False Brothers and Fellow Servants of Satan:

  This is to inform you that the 4th Annual Memorial of Freedom will be held next Monday, April 14th, at sundown. Please make arrangements to bring your own emblems--chocolate milk and Pop Tarts, or else some other food and beverage or "Down, Right STRONG PUNCH" combo of your personal choice. ("Down, Right STRONG PUNCH" is almost Street Fighter II, and also a clever play on "downright strong punch". I wasn't even intending the latter. Impressive. ) The ceremony will begin promptly at sundown, so please be sure to plan ahead so as to arrive on time.

  Visitors and interested persons are welcome.

  What is the Memorial of Freedom? It commemorates sd-7's decision to cease attending Watchtower meetings and withdraw fully from the organization that remains obedient to men in charge of a publishing company.

  What do the emblems represent? The milk represents the milk of freedom. Although traditionally 2% milk has been used, whole milk that is watered down by 33% or skim milk may also be used. Fat-free milk? You may evidently be drinking milk-flavored water, and if so, is it not done in freedom from fear of judgment?

  The Pop Tart represents sd-7's (or anyone's) body, which is no longer present at Watchtower facilities and thus no longer contributing to its attendance figures or filling its coffers with unrighteous riches. Should we not 'keep doing this[--that is, refraining from Watchtower-based meeting attendance and recruitment work--]in remembrance of me'? No doubt you will reap rich rewards--including an unhealthy spike in blood sugar--if you do so.

  May we all make an extra effort to be in attendance at this solemn occasion. Bernley, a construction worker and father of 3, said: "I often ask my supervisor for time off well in advance of the Memorial of Freedom so as to get my affairs in order. I once informed him that this was non-negotiable. He told me not to bother coming in on Tuesday if I left work early on Monday. Upon returning to work on Tuesday, I found that my manager had been replaced! The new manager commended my work ethic and even offered me Sundays and a weekday of my choice to take off! Thus, my courageous stand has reaped rich rewards." May you be similarly rewarded if you choose to attend this year.

  Your Unchristian, False Brother, Who Routinely Bathes In Every Lying Form of Wickedness and Every Unclean Exhalation of Demons,

  sd-7
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  My personal movie review: Darren Aronofsky's NOAH

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  noah, my movie review.

  you may have already judged this film and you've never seen it!

  like many of its critics, you think you know what you're going to see and .

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  A very well-written review. I was skeptical of seeing Noah, but mildly curious as well. I guess I never finished the Book of Enoch or any of the other 'extra scriptures' or what have you. Didn't know there were more stories about Noah. But then, I didn't really care to know.

  I guess if there's a good underlying lesson, maybe I'll throw it on my Netflix queue for future reference. Thanks for the review.

  --sd-7
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  "This Generation" at the meeting today

  by Batman89 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it was really quite amusing 2day at the meeting when we got to the "this generation will not pass away" subheading in the wt.

  the conductor spent very little time on the section and the comments that were given didnt at all make sense really.

  you can tell its not understood by the majority of the friendsand will go over there heads, i was trying not to laugh lol.

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  im confused! sooo does this mean WT scrapped the idea about the annointed being sealed off in 1935?

  Yes, they already did that in 2007, actually.

  --sd-7