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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 06-09-2013 WT Study (READ BIBLE)

  by blondie in

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  2. friends

  comments you will not hear at the 06-09-2013 wt study (april 15, 2013, pages 7-11)(read bible).

  4. what does it mean to read the bible in an undertone?.

  1:6) how, then, are we to understand jesus words about this generation?

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  Reading in an undertone is helpful

  when you consider Bible books that are

  unfamiliar to you [which is like, all of them,

  I mean, when was the last time you read several

  verses in succession that wasn't at a meeting?].

  To illustrate, imagine

  three scenarios [try really hard, I know imagination is

  far beyond you, but try anyway]. First, think of a young

  Christian brother whose personal reading

  program has taken him to the prophecy

  of Hosea [making him just a little curious about

  what making out with a 'wife of fornication' must be like,

  oh, and it's a lot of fun, until she quits her job and starts

  cleaning the oven at 1 in the morning, then, not so much].

  In chapter 4, he pauses

  after reading verses 11 to 13 in an undertone.

  (Read Hosea 4:11-13.) ["Of their wooden idol my people

  keep inquiring"? "Their own hand staff keeps telling them?"

  So is this about, you know, cleaning the pipes?] Why?

  Those verses catch his attention because [of the sexual metaphor]

  he has been struggling to resist immoral

  pressures in school [because yellow plaid shirts tucked into khakis

  are unbelievably sexy to the girls at school, I had to beat them off of me].

  He reflects on the

  verses and thinks: ‘Jehovah sees the bad

  things people do even in private. I do

  not want to offend him.’ The brother resolves

  to remain morally clean before

  God [and stop touching his "own hand staff"].
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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 06-09-2013 WT Study (READ BIBLE)

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  comments you will not hear at the 06-09-2013 wt study (april 15, 2013, pages 7-11)(read bible).

  4. what does it mean to read the bible in an undertone?.

  1:6) how, then, are we to understand jesus words about this generation?

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  Jehovah [we, the authors of this article] does not want his servants [you, the readers] to rush

  through a reading of his Word [especially the Watchtower]. He told Joshua of

  ancient times: “This book of the law should not depart

  from your mouth, and you must in an undertone

  read in it day and night.” (Josh. 1:8; Ps. 1:2)

  Does this instruction require that

  you literally utter in a low voice all the

  words you read from Genesis to Revelation?

  No. It means that you should read [the Watchtower] at a

  pace that allows for meditation.

  When you read the Bible [and the Watchtower] “in an undertone,”

  it will help you to fix attention

  on portions [of the Watchtower] that are especially useful

  and encouraging to you at that moment.

  On finding such phrases, verses, or accounts [or paragraphs in study articles],

  read them slowly, perhaps forming

  the words with the tongue and lips [you know what those are, right?

  They're right on the front part of your head, just above your chin

  and below your nose].

  The full weight of a Scriptural point [as explained by the Watchtower] may

  strike you [like a spiritual sledgehammer] in a deeply personal way

  [going right into your teeth, which are, as you no doubt have learned once

  you discovered where your tongue and lips were, also in the same area of your head]. Why

  is this important? Because [what good is abuse if I can't beat

  the hell out of you? Where's the fun in that?] getting the

  sense of God’s counsel gives you strong

  motivation [like a swift kick to the pants, front or back, our choice]

  to put it into practice [do as we tell you, "Caleb, I'm so proud of you for OBEYING!"].
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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 06-09-2013 WT Study (READ BIBLE)

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  comments you will not hear at the 06-09-2013 wt study (april 15, 2013, pages 7-11)(read bible).

  4. what does it mean to read the bible in an undertone?.

  1:6) how, then, are we to understand jesus words about this generation?

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  Perhaps a translation might help. Paragraphs 1-3:

  “I THANK Jehovah every morning for helping me

  to understand the Bible [by means of the Watchtower,

  provided by the faithful slave].” The elderly Christian

  [aka Jehovah's Witness] sister who made that statement has read the entire Bible

  over 40 times, and she is not stopping. Younger sister

  wrote that Bible reading [along with reading the Watchtower] has helped her to see

  that Jehovah is real. As a result, she has drawn closer

  to her heavenly Father. She stated, “I have never

  been happier in my life [because I have never had any experience,

  happy or otherwise, outside of the Watchtower that I could compare to]!”

  The apostle Peter encouraged all to “form a longing

  for the unadulterated milk belonging to the

  word.” (1 Pet. 2:2) Those who satisfy that longing

  through Bible [and Watchtower] study and who apply

  Bible [Watchtower] teachings

  have a clean conscience [in the eyes of the Watchtower,

  which decides what your conscience should believe,

  then excuses itself from any responsibility for any harm,

  emotional, spiritual or otherwise] and a purpose in living

  [which you cannot have without the Watchtower]. They

  develop enduring [at least up until the moment they suspect you of wrongdoing,

  doubts, or you a miss a few meetings] friendships with others who also

  love and serve the true God [namely, other Jehovah's Witnesses,

  since no one else on earth actually loves, knows or could ever

  hope to serve the true God]. All of these are valid

  reasons to “delight in the law of God [as explained in the Watchtower].” (Rom. 7:22)

  But there are even more benefits [especially financial, have you seen

  our real estate holdings lately? We are seriously paid]. What are some of

  them? [More money, more problems for us, less money, more problems for you.

  An 'I win, you lose' situation.]

  The more you learn about Jehovah and his Son [as the

  Watchtower explains them],

  the more your love for them and your fellow humans

  [Jehovah's Witnesses and any potential recruits]

  will grow. Having accurate Scriptural knowledge

  [that is,believing what the Watchtower teaches]

  helps you to see how God will soon save obedient

  mankind [Jehovah's Witnesses] from this dying system. You have a

  positive message of good news [positive message for recruits,

  negative for those who don't agree, even if they pretend

  they love God and Christ too] to share with people

  in your ministry. Jehovah will bless you as you teach

  others the things that you have learned from reading

  God’s Word [the Watchtower].

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  'God's Word is Truth!' District Convention of Jehovah's Witnesses 2013 - SATURDAY AUDIO

  by mindnumbed in

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  2. bible

  9:30 song no.106 and prayer.

  11:00 song no.

  12:10 song no.

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  What, so none of the talks are on YouTube yet? I mean, you know, unofficially? Well, no matter. I shall hear them all next month. They should make a book based on the 'Beware of Apostates' symposium, and distribute it publically. I wonder how it is that they can make such statements in a program open to the public and not raise any red flags. Whatevs. If I'm in the mood, maybe I'll give it a download and a listen...and then break something.

  --sd-7
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  simple question: if the GB of 1919 vintage is the only and true F&DS, and ---

  by prologos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it is only the "duely appointed" presently 8=1 slave, or their overlapping successors that get the reward, according to scripture, after their rapture,.

  how about the other 139 992 non-slaves, are they disqualified from the reward since they were never recognized as the f&ds?.

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  How about the other 139 992 non-slaves, are they disqualified from the reward since they were never recognized as the F&DS?

  Supposedly, they get the same reward, by virtue of being anointed; it's just that they don't have the responsibility to feed everybody inside the congregation like the GB does. Since the anointed and great crowd are now essentially equals, they just have to maintain faithful service--presumably extremely 'exemplary' service--to get the heavenly reward. I would guess that means adoption by holy spirit (that is, the heavenly hope) is no longer directly tied to feeding the congregation as a whole, and I suppose it never was, given that most of the anointed weren't involved in that process anyway.

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  GAME OF THRONES (Season 3)

  by SophieG in

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  2. entertainment

  ok i cannot believe that no one has mentioned this series.

  does anyone watch?

  did you see sundays masterpiece and have you read the books?

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  Well, I couldn't resist posting on this thread, though I've not posted anything in quite awhile...

  I've watched maybe 4 episodes of the show, but I read all the books already, and while I think the show is good, the books are way better. The show is a very good rendering of the books, but does deviate from them (as I understand they did quite a bit of even before the wedding scene). The show also has scenes that probably aren't in the books at all.

  Then again, maybe it's just that the gruesome murders seem a lot worse when you actually watch them. Reading about a fictional person gagging on his own blood is a LOT different than seeing a graphic depiction of it on TV...

  I just chose to read the books first, and then gradually watch the TV show. I raced through the books almost back-to-back, so at least that way I can no longer be spoiled by Internet people or stuff that happens on the show. I might read the books again sometime. It's interesting how much foreshadowing you miss the first time through.

  I'd heard about Ned before I even started reading the books, but I was still shocked when I read the first book because I mistakenly thought that wasn't supposed to happen yet. But the good thing is, there are still characters I can root for. I mean, come on. Tyrion Lannister is my favorite--no, wait, it's Jon Snow, no wait, it's Daenerys Targaryen, no wait... Definitely Dany--Emilia Clarke is just exquisitely beautiful. And I like the character.

  I'm rather surprised people were so shocked about this latest episode, after seeing what happened to Ned. And seeing how stupid [edited! spoilers!] could be at times (look who's talkin'). But that scene was a heck of a shock in the book, that's for sure. 'A Storm of Swords' was definitely the best in the series, but I enjoyed meeting new characters in 'A Feast for Crows' and 'A Dance With Dragons', too. I wonder if they'll be able to keep high enough ratings on the show so that they'll get to all these other characters. Probably. Certainly this last episode has gotten major press.

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  So if Russell was the "greater" John the Baptist paving the way for the GB...

  by goatshapeddemon in

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  2. beliefs

  ... what does that make the "governing body"????????.

  wait for it....... yes, the greater jesus.

  they stopped short of saying that in the july 15 wt (all they said was that russell was the greater john the baptist), but what other conclusion is there, especially since now they're going to rule with jesus over the messianic kingdom.. talk about a messiah complex.

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  the Greater Jesus

  Hmm. I hadn't thought of this angle. I would assume the JW defense would be that Russell was like John the Baptizer in that he heralded JESUS' presence (Zion's Watch Tower and Herald of Christ's Presence wasn't meant to be about the Governing Body), not that of the faithful slave. That said, while I do think your implications are correct at least in a sense (since the 'anointed' are really saying they're 'christs', since that's what 'anointed' means, after all), I think this probably wasn't what the Governing Body was trying to say, at least not overtly.

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  QFR How should Christians view fortune cookies?

  by truthseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is crazy..... .

  questions from readers.

  how should christians view fortune cookies?.

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  Well, well. Did somebody say my name?

  Not a bad go at it. The title made me suspicious, but you were good there, very good. I was almost fooled! I would've included some more thinly veiled threats and possibly a personal experience or two, perhaps someone named "Andre" or something...but otherwise, good work!

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  I have just been disinvited to my brother's wedding - Thanks AAWA!

  by Sic Semper Tyrannis in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i am an inactive jw.

  i havent been on this forum for a few months and have been lurking in others.

  i have met a few people in real life and online, both on this forum and on others.

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  Wow. This is crazy. I mean, come on, guys. I think I've learned the hard way that if any JW has any inkling you have doubts, sooner or later something could go down, but...getting outed by your supposed allies???????????? That's why I'm glad I got out and got it all over with.

  I've pretty much said everything short of my last name here, so...not worried. I feel awful for the poor folks who had this happen to them because of the actions of one person. "What are you, a--triple agent?" Thousands of people affected by this? It's mind-blowing to read about.

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  In Practice, the GB Substitutes "The Organization" for Jesus

  by Ding in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  recently, i have had some pm discussions with a couple of jwn members regarding the extent to which the gb injects itself and the wt organization into the bible message.

  one of them encouraged me to post my comments as a topic, so i am doing so here.. .

  in the wt religion, everything is about "god's organization.

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  "It is vital that we recognize the faithful slave. Our spiritual health and our relationship with God depend on this channel.--Matt. 4:4; John 17:3."--July 15, 2013 Watchtower, p. 20.

  We don't need to go very far back to find similar quotes, now, do we? Not very far at all...

  Guess that means "Man must not live on bread alone, but on every utterance coming from [the faithful slave's] mouth." And "this means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one [your Son appointed in 1919, the faithful slave]."

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