I haven't been spoken to or contacted by a witness or elder since the day I got disfellowshipped - I presume they think I am a lost cause. Which is wonderfully reassuring!
PP
I haven't been spoken to or contacted by a witness or elder since the day I got disfellowshipped - I presume they think I am a lost cause. Which is wonderfully reassuring!
PP
so im reading "why evokution is true" by coyne and the page im on is talking about darwin and natural selection:.
"but natural selection was also the part of evolutionary theory con- sidered most revolutionary in darwins time, and it is still unsettling to many.
selection is both revolutionary and disturbing for the same reason: it explains apparent design in nature by a purely materialistic process that doesnt require creation or guidance by supernatural forces.
That site is fantastic, it contains the following insight:
"SUDDEN APPEARANCE:
Are you aware that "ALL CULTURES BEGAN SUDDENLY" and were fully developed? A long preliminary period is not supported by archaeology. Before cities on earth, there was nothing. There was no transition whatsoever between the ancient civilizations and any primitive forebearers. They were at their peak from the beginning."
I should have guessed there was something up from the overuse of capital letters.
PP
in the first post in this series i discussed the identity of the watchtower as per revelation 13. the second post dealt with the identity of the harlot and the scarlet beast.
this post will deal with the third element "the image of the beast", lets read revelation 13:15-17:.
the second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed.
Interesting, although highly subjective - there seems to be a million different "interpretations" of this.
Although I must say, I find myself worried about the Biblical obsession with whores and harlots. You can't turn a page without some "prophet" writing about a whore here, a harlot there.......it's all "whore, whore,whore." Sheesh.
Ease up on the whores already, guys. We're knee-deep here.
PP
our friend, oompa, has passed away.
just recieved the news a couple of hours ago, and have almost no details.
it happened today or yesterday, he took his own life.
My word. Rest in peace.
PP
i can't stop playing skyrim.
how did this happen?
i was never into this stuff before and never thought i would be.
I'm a big gamer, Skyrim is my current addiction too.
PP
this summer i started to play football(soccer) with "wordly" people.
it s been so nice and relaxing without flashovers.. contrast for playing with witnesses is huge!
here is couple examples of witnesses games from where i live:.
I once organised a football mactch between my congregation, and another that shared our hall, at Lilleshall FA. We started playing, and about fifteen minutes in, an elder did a two-footed slide tackle on a young lad. This caused a shoving match, with the elder shouting the odds. We managed to get things to calm down, until just before half time - when our own goalkeeper ran out of goal, and lost the ball. He then turned to one of his own defenders and started punching him in the face. One of the lads on our team grabbed him - and the goalkeepers mate, who was on the opposing team, jumped in, and started a full-on brawl.
At the end of the second half, in literally the last minute, one of the opposition players was running thru on goal, and one of our defenders tried to fly-kick him in the back. Which, as you can imagine, led to another, ahem, "robust discussion" amongst the teams.
I think the next time we all went to the hall, we sang some song about the love and brotherly unity amongst Jehovah's happy people.......
PP
as some of you have noticed the asl video warning against masturbation (another guilt trip) is creating waves.
this is not small fry.
1. it is humorous - most topics (like other policies) are serious/depressing (blood, shunning, pedos).
Hi,
Don’t worry, I’m not going to write a whole technical essay, boring the hell out of everyone on the forum, – Glander made a good point a couple of pages back about keeping my posts shorter, and I’m going to take his/her advice. Just a couple of points.
KS. Your post is without doubt one of the most ridiculous I’ve ever seen on this forum. Take this: “you seemingly are quite clueless as to the history of WHERE that knowledge came from.” No, sonny jim. It’s not that I don’t know. It’s that it’s irrelevant to our discussion. IRRELEVANT. You didn’t get into a discussion with me about the development of research into deaf cognition.
On that point, so we have evidence today that deaf people with a moderate to severe sensorineural hearing loss are using the auditory cortex, despite the lack of input, during the reading process, as my own research is focused on. HOLD THE PRESSES, JWN!!! I’ve got one word for you, Sherlock - SO? It’s IRRELEVANT TO OUR DISCUSSION. Does anyone on this forum care? Did you and I get into a debate about the merits of either approach? No. IT’S IRRELEVANT.
As is your little “”Oh my god, I TREAT people, you OBVIOUSLY DON’T CARE ABOUT THEM, YOU EGOTISTICAL SELF-SERVING….” blah blah blah…… Irrelevant, self-serving crap. You have “treated” hearing-impaired patients. And? I’ve worked with as many people who have found your approach useless to their particular circumstance, hence my research. Oh don’t get me wrong, there’s some wonderful people out there, doing tremendous work. And? What’s that got to do with me calling you out? WHO CARES? Not anyone on this forum, which is why it was never mentioned. Your life history is only interesting in that it establishes you have some experience. AND? So did Alexander Bell.
Let’s get back on track. I called you out on your attitude, the fact you were playing fast-and-loose with the facts, and ABOVE ALL, your accusations that Cedars, BluePill2 and others were “mocking” and discriminating against the deaf. You respond with the crap that you posted above – irrelevant and off topic.
Your post gets even more surreal – from some random paranoid scenario about “an insider leaking stuff” (does anyone know who the hell this is addressed to? Is it to me? IS KS SAYING I WORKED WITH SOMEONE TO RELEASE THE VIDEO? I don’t know, someone help me out here) to some crap about “your callous, heartless uncaring attitude”? My goodness, don’t make me laugh, you jumped-up little man, with your “Look at me, I save these people, my GOD, it’s like I’m Mother Theresa and Princess Diana rolled into one.” Please. I’ve had to deal with people like you, as has my entire extended family, for generations. Generations of deaf people – and you think we owe you something. Ok Mr Doctor, my god, don’t let me disagree with YOU!
You know what though, I’m gonna give it to you. You really made me laugh out loud. Amidst your squeals of indignation, you dropped out some real gems. I’m glad you told me that I’m one of “those know-it-all grad students, no doubt struggling with the student loan burden, eating ramen, dealing with your meanie advisors, project deadlines, etc….” and “PP, encountering self-entitled people like you don't surprise me a bit, at my age (and I probably have neuro books older than you, I bet: are you even in your 30's yet?), but empty, soul-sucking people like you nevertheless do manage to DISGUST me, even still.... All you've got to offer is sanctimonious pomposity, when you haven't even earned the degree or experience to back it up.” And let’s not forget “You have got A LOT to learn about how the "Worldly World" works, and you're not making a great impression on me (and let's not blame the cloistered nun-like covent environment of Bethel, m'kay?).” Hahaha, that’s brilliant! You idiot. I wasn’t brought up a JW. I converted after a LONG TIME in the “WORDLY WORLD” (dum dum dum!) and then I spent a long time in, went to Bethel, then I left after a long, long time. I’ve seen more of “life in the worldy world” than you think. Sorry, sorry, not as much as you, of course. ALL HAIL KS!!!!!
My favourite bit is” So screw you and that hearing-impaired donkey you rode in on, and consider taking him back to Bethel if you truly cannot manage to leave it behind you emotionally, as well. See, you're STILL in Bethel, even if you're body is not.” My word. That paragraph is so stupid, it needs no commentary. OUTLAW said it all really.
You know, I haven’t got pissed off about much on this forum in over 4 years. But this, this really did make me get just a little angry. “You're….willing to throwing anyone under the bus in order to put YOUR own self-serving ego-driven agenda (destroying the WT) as MORE IMPORTANT than anything else?” I said you throw accusations out, without proof. I was right. 200 posts in 4 years - and I want to DESTROY THE WATCHTOWER!!!!!! My God, for someone on a quest to destroy the WT, I seem to post very little, seeming to concentrate on my life outside the board. What an idi..sorry, I mean, Berkley educated graduate.
KS. I challenged your painting of others on the forum as “discriminators” and so on. You reacted with fury, and accusations that I am somehow involved in discrimination against my own people. I challenged your “facts” and you responded with an irrelevant history lesson, and your, even more irrelevant, life story. That pretty much sums you up, during this discussion anyway.
I don’t have the patience any longer to engage with your irrelevant material, your character attacks on those who disagree with you, and so on. I take my hat off to you, Sir. I won’t insult you by saying you have an inflated sense of self-worth. Rather, let me quote another man, whose praise describes you aptly: “"He is a very modest man with a great deal to be modest about."
PP
as some of you have noticed the asl video warning against masturbation (another guilt trip) is creating waves.
this is not small fry.
1. it is humorous - most topics (like other policies) are serious/depressing (blood, shunning, pedos).
Hi JMorgan.
"I think the question becomes, is it more reasonable to expect that ASL communicate terms involving sex without pantomiming the specific acts, or do we expect the rest of the American culture to change their reaction upon viewing sexual acts that are being pantomimed?"
Why should this be a question at all? The historical experience of Deaf people, both in the US and UK, mitigates that most deaf people will not change their language, simply because the "hearing" don't think it is "appropriate". You won't be aware, I'm sure, but the development and proliferation of sign-languages was a direct effort by young deaf people to resist cultural hegemony by hearing people. Frankly, if hearing people find certain signs "offensive" or "innappropriate", that will be seen as immaterial, to say the least.
PP
as some of you have noticed the asl video warning against masturbation (another guilt trip) is creating waves.
this is not small fry.
1. it is humorous - most topics (like other policies) are serious/depressing (blood, shunning, pedos).
Bluepill,
sounds like you know what I mean! Thanks
PP
i happened to be reading this part of acts yesterday, ananias and sappira getting zapped for lying about keeping a portion of their profits.
it occurred to me, that is, like, oh my gawd, soooo old testament!
is there any other place in the new testament where a person was immediately executed by god for their error?
Tec,
can I just ask, what does this actually mean: " seeing God through Christ"? I really don't understand.
Just, for my sake, use this account, to explain it to me. You read an account like this, and Christ....? Shows you what it supposed to mean? Or if it is really true? Or.....? I'm a bit confused here.
Also, since I presume you wouldn't know of Jesus, except thru the Bible, how is it that you don't view the Bible as necessarily reliable?
Serious questions, I'd love to know the answer, never understood it.
PP