pepperheart
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Trolley Stands Up, Door-to-Door Work Down?
by steve2 inseveral threads have discussed the increased use of of the trolley work by witnesses in various countries (e.g, australia, new zealand, the states, canada and britain to name a few).
several posters have described trolley settings as largely ignored by passersby and/or the witnesses immersed in everything other than appearing ready and waiting to make contact with passersby.
what impact will this increased shift to trolley work have on the hallmark feature of jws, their door-to-door work?
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pepperheart
the trolley dolly have to be veted by their elders and are given tips what to say and do and not say and do and its a good excuse to use up all the books etc just this week ive seen a trolley full of teaching books from 2006 and the OLD VERSION of "what does the bible really teach" -
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Bethel Meeting at Regional Convention
by MrTheocratic ini decided to go to the bethel recruiting meeting yesterday to test out my theory that the organization is in decline.
i assumed that if there is a general feeling of apathy by many in the org, then certainly it would be shown up by the lack of enthusiasm or zeal by many to sign up for bethel service.
well let me say that based on what i observed, this organization is not going anywhere.
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pepperheart
how many people work at bethel etc in new york now, i have heard about a 1000 so in due time they will need people to replace the ones who leave or die just to keep the wheels turning -
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Kingdom Hall Money Grab Was for Child Abuse Its Completely Clear
by thedepressedsoul inif youve followed the news lately there are more and more child abuse cases popping up.
one lawyer said he has over 28 cases in the pipeline that are going to be coming out soon.
on december 1 st a new one just popped up.
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pepperheart
they have closed 20 headquaters around the world and moving from prime spots in new york and london.And also these past months have been in two big citys giving out teaching books that were printed in 2006 and just this week they are still giving out the OLD VERSION of the "what does the bible really teach" books -
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New Scientology Documentary Banned In UK
by defender of truth inposted in: religionposted: april 19, 2015. new scientology documentary banned in uk for fears of libel claims.
when it comes to the scientologist movement, many are aware that, due to their money, power, and influence, it may not be the best idea to mess with the group for fear of libel claims and legal action.. .
a new scientology documentary, which was due to be aired in britain by sky atlantic, has now been banned for fears it will ruffle the wrong feathers.. the new film, directed by alex gibney, which claims that scientologys practices at their u.s. headquarters were abusive and violent, is shelved due to the fact that northern ireland is not subject to the 2013 defamation act.. john travolta, a scientologist himself, also slammed the new film, speaking to reporters about it, he said, ive been so happy with my experience in the last 40 years...that i really dont have anything to say that would shed light on (a documentary) so decidedly negative.. the leaders of the scientology church have also condemned the film about them, saying it is, one-sided, bigoted propaganda built on falsehoods and informed by former members whom it calls misfits.'.
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pepperheart
if you need to show any friends any good tv programes about sciencetology in the past 30 years the bbc,itv AND c4 have all done programes telling people how bad sciencetology is -
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No More Money!
by Hold Me-Thrill Me inas of this june (i've already given my may contributions which are substantial) i am no longer giving money to support useless building projects that serve no good purpose.
i am no longer giving money at conventions or assemblies.
i am no longer giving money toward the circuit overseers upkeep.
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pepperheart
did you see the happy video from bethel, they had dentists etc on the video (i wonder if the 900 people who work at bethel have to pay for their dental care) also it looked like they had cobblers there as well. would they let any old or sick poblishers from new york to have free dental care at bethel?????? -
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Bethel Meeting at Regional Convention
by MrTheocratic ini decided to go to the bethel recruiting meeting yesterday to test out my theory that the organization is in decline.
i assumed that if there is a general feeling of apathy by many in the org, then certainly it would be shown up by the lack of enthusiasm or zeal by many to sign up for bethel service.
well let me say that based on what i observed, this organization is not going anywhere.
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pepperheart
people can be as comited as they like but if the jws have no money then ir really makes things difficult eg they have closed 20 branch offices down acording to the jw website and if they keep having child abuse cases,in the uk they have got possibly 6 new cases coming up.and acording to steven letts their is more money going out than coming in.what would happen if they have to sell bethel in new york off,woops they have had to do that already :-) -
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Cant we put financial pressure on the Borg?
by 1tMakesNoSence inwhy dont everyone just start taking publications, asking for more and just say you don't have any money.
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if everyone does this, can't we put some significant financial pressure on the borg?.
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pepperheart
No neither individual jw's nor kingdom halls pay for literature but headquarters, elders from each kingdom hall order what they think they will need.In two big citys that i have been too these past months on the trolleys they have been giving away a teaching book from 2006 and this last week the OLD VERSION of "what does the bible really teach" i even got a teaching book from 1998 as well.If you say that a teaching book costs just for the paper ink and transport costs $1 and if 5000 people take a teaching book per week that would be $260,000 per year.Also if bethel need money to keep the 900 people that work there then they will close kingdom halls anyway.If you saw the happy video from bethel they seen to have dental workers,i doubt if the bethel folk pay for any treatment and also cobblers to mend shoes -
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"Friends" are confused who and where they should be donating!
by thedepressedsoul inas most of you are aware there is a money issue inside of jw land.
they could be running out of money or they're just wanting more.
either way, they are making it appear as a funds issue to motivate individuals to donate more.
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pepperheart
In two big citys these past months they have been giving away on the trolleys teaching books printed in 2006 and the OLD VERSION of the "what does the bible really say" books and i even got one book that was printed in 1998. -
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Watchtower & Awake Subscriptions
by Amazing inin another thread the point was made that the wts is ending subscriptions to the watchtower and awake!
magazines.
isp rightly commented the following, "the wts gets double payment for the mags from the r+f......so subscribers are not cost effective!".
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pepperheart
Also as mutch as they might want to keep on printing magazines if they dont have the money they cant.These past months ive been in two big citys and in both places on the carts they have been giving away a teaching book printed in 2006 and the OLD VERSION of the "what does the bible really teach"In one city they had one whole trolley full of old books -
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Views on handing out literature during field service
by Joey Jo-Jo init is brought to my attention that some non jw's deliberately accept jw literature just to throw it in the bin.. their intentions are perceived as positive meaning these non jw's throwing their magazines away is a good thing.. what is your view on the matter?.
should they accept or not accept their literature, and why?.
is accepting literature benefiting or damaging the cult, and why?.
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pepperheart
a pioner on a trolley was telling me that kingdom halls dont pay for literature but headquaters and each kingdom hall just order what they want for free from headquaters.just this week i have seen a trolley full of teaching books that were printed in 2006 and the OLD VERSION of the "what does the bible really teach" also thses past weeks i also got from a troleey a book printed in 1998