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  Other Religions Compatible to JWs

  by greenie in

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  just wondering, are there any religions that exist that might be palatable to dubs?

  i realize all of their teaching goes against this, but i'm wondering from an outside or neutral view, can you think of any that would work for someone who was/is a jw?

  southern baptist?

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  greenie

  Just wondering, are there any religions that exist that might be palatable to Dubs? I realize all of their teaching goes against this, but I'm wondering from an outside or neutral view, can you think of any that would work for someone who was/is a JW? Southern Baptist? Seventh Day Adventist? Greek Orthodox? (I'm brainstorming here...)
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  how are the JW's viewed from the outside?

  by tigeress in

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  i know while in the org we get told alot to tell everyone that we are jw's, cos its reputation is so good.

  but that dosn't explain why people still refuse to answer the doors to them, or hide when they come aknocking.. so how are jw's really viewed by the outside world?.

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  From an outsider's POV I can tell you that formerly I didn't think much of them, just that they were some strange super conservative Christian group that would leave scary and creepy pamphlets on your car or your door. Definitely had my door knocked on and didn't answer it. After meeting my Dub but still not knowing much about the religion, I revised my views to thinking they were nice but ultra conservative Christians. After attending my first JW event, I thought they were frightening, mislead and ultra conservative Christians. That's where I am now. Oh, and I wouldn't apply that label most of the individual JWs I know, just to the organization.
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  My First Kingdom Hall Wedding

  by garyneal in

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  2. experiences

  during our last "bible study" session with the elder and his wife, we were invited to attend a wedding of a dear and close 'brother' and 'sister' of thiers at their hall.

  my wife made me where a suit .

  the wedding overall was nice.

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  greenie

  I like how the article compares Christmas and Easter to child sacrifice and various sexual practices:"In the past God condemned certain practices that may have been tolerated in some communities. These include child sacrifice, the misuse of blood and various sexual practices. Likewise, certain customs that are common today are clearly not in harmony with Biblical principles. Among these are non-Biblical traditions connected with religious holidays such as Christmas and Easter or with superstitious practices related to spiritism."
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  Apprehension about the holidays

  by greenie in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so...i've been feeling a tightness in my chest thinking about the upcoming holiday season.

  you know, october = halloween; november=thanksgiving; december=christmas, etc.

  i'm not sure how to approach them with my dub (for those who don't know, i'm a non-jw, never have been one, never will be).

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  Thanks for all the feedback, but blargh. We tried to talk and just ended up arguing. He starts talking about what's in the Bible and I can't do scriptural gymnastics so I lose (in his eyes). My visceral response to his Bible citing also has him thinking that I'm afraid to look in the Bible, which I think tells him more that he's right. So, it seems like my actions are also only reinforcing his beliefs. See? Blargh. At times, he really makes religion ugly for me. Sorry to be mopey, but I am really not looking forward to the months ahead when I completely should be. I also wonder, for those of you that have been on this board a long time, how many like me you've seen come and go.
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  Generation Change

  by greenie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi all,.

  i've heard several reference to the "generation change.

  " some of you have said they've revised this several times, including in 1995. onthewayout, i've heard you mention it a couple of times.. can anyone explain to me what this is, or where to find more information on it?.

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  greenie

  Hi all,

  I've heard several reference to the "generation change." Some of you have said they've revised this several times, including in 1995. OnTheWayOut, I've heard you mention it a couple of times.

  Can anyone explain to me what this is, or where to find more information on it?

  Thanks!
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  Apprehension about the holidays

  by greenie in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so...i've been feeling a tightness in my chest thinking about the upcoming holiday season.

  you know, october = halloween; november=thanksgiving; december=christmas, etc.

  i'm not sure how to approach them with my dub (for those who don't know, i'm a non-jw, never have been one, never will be).

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  greenie

  So...I've been feeling a tightness in my chest thinking about the upcoming holiday season. You know, October = Halloween; November=Thanksgiving; December=Christmas, etc. etc. I'm not sure how to approach them with my Dub (for those who don't know, I'm a non-JW, never have been one, never will be). He's gone with the flow before (although you can see the guilt almost eating him alive), so I'm not sure what the best approach would be. I want to set up a system where our child will be able to enjoy them too. Any thoughts? It'd be nice if I could somehow give my Dub a situation where he doesn't have to feel so guilty about participating. Would anything have worked for you guys? And if not (because he doesn't always seem to be an over-zealous uber-Dub), can you think of anything that might work?

  Oh, and I hope everyone on here realizes how much we take for granted! I never thought once that I would have to consider one day whether my mate would celebrate holidays with me. Just always assumed they would and looked forward to those warm, family-oriented seasons!
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  Were You Always Feeling Guilty As A Witness?

  by minimus in

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  i think the religion works on guilt.

  everyone is made to feel they're not good enough some how or perhaps they practice a "secret sin" and it gnaws at them.

  so they decide to pioneer or "do more", recognizing they can never really make up for whatever shortcomings they have.. were you a guilt ridden jw?

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  I 'm no Dub, but I see it firsthand. It makes me ill to see a religion that motivates by guilt. Actually, it seems like the two common feelings are guilt or self-righteousness.
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  "Hey mom, I'm home!"

  by dissed in

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  2. friends

  a jw called my wife to talk business yesterday, and voluntarily mentioned her son was living with them again.. now you have to understand, we have not associated with the jw's for 13 plus years.

  so it took my wife by surprise that a jw, knowing our situation, would mention this.

  but it gets better, there is more to this story.. she then volunteered, he's been living at home with them for over a year since.......bethel "re-assigned" him as she said sarcastically.. "how long was he at bethel?

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  Can anyone speculate seriously about why they're being "laid off"? What reasons do they send them home?
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  paul makes no sense???

  by highdose in

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  is it just me, but when i read my bible (nwt) i found whole pages of pauls writing that i didn't understand and couldn't make head nor tail of.

  i also noticed that the borg tended to only quote certain scriptures that they thought they could make sense of pauls writings, and these were quoted over and over again.

  but surely the whole bible is supposed to be inspired and benifical ... bla bla bla etc?.

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  greenie

  I would love one of JWNs resident biblical scholars to explain Paul a little more, especially since it seems like soooooooo many of the JW "rules" come from his letter to the Corinthians. How is one supposed to read that chapter? I was reading it the other night and was surprised at how many JW laws were in there. I've heard that it was directed to that specific congregation bc they were particularly unruly. Is that true? Can it be proven?
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  JW Structure and Acronyms

  by greenie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was wondering if anyone can tell me or point to me to old posts and web sites that explain the structure of a jw congregation, all the acronyms used and how meetings are arranged.

  gb - governing body.

  ms - ministerial servant (i have no idea was this means or what this person does).

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  I was wondering if anyone can tell me or point to me to old posts and web sites that explain the structure of a JW congregation, all the acronyms used and how meetings are arranged. Here are the ones I think I know:

  GB - Governing Body

  MS - Ministerial Servant (I have no idea was this means or what this person does)

  DF/DA - Disfellowship/associate

  RF - Rank and File

  Talk - sermon

  Meeting - service

  Field service - going door to door

  RV - return visit

  Etc, etc.

  Just trying to learn more about this curious organization...