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  Do You Support Freedom Of Religion?

  by minimus in

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  i think most religions have their good and bad points about them.

  some religions (most) teach if you're a "bad" person or a sinner who doesn't become "born again", that you're going to burn in hellfire forever and ever!

  some religions teach intolerance toward "infidels" or "apostates".

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  Yes just as there is a verity of people in different race, culture, etc. I believe in freedom of religion... along with what Migwitch said.
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  Did You Personally Know Any JWs That Were Sexually Molested By Other JWs?

  by minimus in

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  i knew of a handful (which is too many) that were molested by a jehovah's witness.

  it was not typical in my experience.

  what about you???.

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  Just a comment to the title didn't really get to read this posts on here. But yes defiantly. I'd say I know tons as well.
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  Are There Certain Posters You Trust Here?

  by minimus in

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  i've been on this site for a number of years now.

  i don't easily trust just anybody.

  having said that, there are a few persons here that know my real identity and i'm comfortable with them.. are there certain posters that you trust here?.

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  I trust Flipper because I spoke with him on the phone. As far as info I find on here I research it. I'm kinda newer on here so I still have caution of what I read. But with proof I gain more trust. I am more the open book type person. Not very smart... but I open up so I can ajust myself for the better. Alot on here I feel is wiser then the average person not dealing with JW. So I come here for helpful suggestions. I learn and hope my examples or evidance help others better theirselves. Believe it or not I'm pretty honest and all the people that truely know me can say this. I feel I'm a little to honest because of how nieve I once was it caused alot of problems in the past. I learned from that so... trust but be smart with who you trust.

  "Sometimes when you open up to people, you let the bad in with the good." -She's All That Movie
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  My Hyprocrite friend just got reinstated I found out on my facebook.

  by Butterflyleia85 in

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  this seriously cracks me up.. i made a bold move and posted this.

  (because i know there are some on my facebook that are jehovah witnesses, but i support the exjehovah witnesses now, i honestly hate hyprocrites but i also understand the struggle it is to be on one side by force and still be attached to the other side because of family, i respect honest people and it's not my place to expose people, that what the jw elders do, i keep to my own business).. remember that july 2009 awake!

  well notice these words on page 29:no one should be forced to worship in a way that he finds unacceptable or be made to choose between his beliefs and his family.

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  http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1208539066 yelp here she is... she had a half naked picture up and then changed it to this when I put up my fiance and my picture up. lol She also still talks to John. And will do anything for money... sorry to say but it's true. She has friends that are nieve... she will back stab. I just saying all this because you all on here know the double life syndrome sadly many of them live. And here is proof of a person just that.
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  My Hyprocrite friend just got reinstated I found out on my facebook.

  by Butterflyleia85 in

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  this seriously cracks me up.. i made a bold move and posted this.

  (because i know there are some on my facebook that are jehovah witnesses, but i support the exjehovah witnesses now, i honestly hate hyprocrites but i also understand the struggle it is to be on one side by force and still be attached to the other side because of family, i respect honest people and it's not my place to expose people, that what the jw elders do, i keep to my own business).. remember that july 2009 awake!

  well notice these words on page 29:no one should be forced to worship in a way that he finds unacceptable or be made to choose between his beliefs and his family.

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  This seriously cracks me up.

  I made a bold move and posted this. (because I know there are some on my facebook that are Jehovah Witnesses, but I support the exJehovah Witnesses now, I honestly hate hyprocrites but I also understand the struggle it is to be on one side by force and still be attached to the other side because of family, I respect honest people and it's not my place to expose people, that what the JW elders do, I keep to my own business).

  Remember that July 2009 Awake! Well notice these words on page 29:“No one should be forced to worship in a way that he finds unacceptable or be made to choose between his beliefs and his family.” This statement is extraordinary because that’s not the way it is in the Witness organization. Members that no longer believ ... e are forced to stay in the group otherwise they will lose family and friends. JWs strictly shun the disfellowshipped and those who disassociate themselves. Also, JWs can be disfellowshipped for not following the shunning rules. http://www.freeminds.org/sociology/other/why-it-is-dangerous-to-associate-with-jehovahs-witnesses.html I left my fear of men along time ago. Just wanted to share with my friends! One comment: All I can say is "WOW". I am surprised this was published in their own magazine. Second comment: The words may have been taken out of context. The Witnesses do not force anyone to worship in a way they find unacceptable, but you do have to choose between your beliefs and family. That's true when you become a Witness and also true if you choose to leave the Witnesses. My comment:Thanks for the good comments! :) Ur rignt about the word "forced" it more like given the guilt trip. Forced more by their strong feelings of being rejected.
  On a side note, I personally have nothing against Jehovah's Witnesses moral value but as far as the way they handle their Organization members or exmembers a totally different story. My Hypocrite friend comment: I just got reinststed and I realize your upset the people you once were close to won't have anything to do with you. But you know what you are talking about is apostasy. Jehovah disfellowships people he loves in order that they may chage there ways. The wicked will be distroyed and some times it takes alot to wake people up. I'm glad I got d.f . again, otherwise i'd still be cheating and messing around with John. It took me alot to break that relationship but I couldn't have done it on my own. You know this is the truth and time is short. And all the moral values and guidelines are RIGHT FROM THE BIBLE. Satan is truely blinding the minds of unbelivers. I know how happy you were when you where severing Jehovah. I am happier now then I have ever been. I remember what It was like I was out for 3 years total. Since I was 18, and married way to young because of it, the only thing I would go back and change is not being able to use that time severing Jehovah, instead of getting drunk and partying. This is not the real live it's yet to come. So you know what you have to do if you want to gain salvation. My comment:That's awesome Amber! and you should Justin is a wonderful guy, I always incouraged you to do the right thing for you and your family! I have nothing against seeking happiness and doing what is right. Keep strong... :) But their is a difference between JW victims and true apostasy. I may not go back because of what I found... and JWs are smarter not to research their religion to stay strong and not be discuraged. I just sent her a private inbox message. Just remember, that Jehovah's Witnesses primary activity, that of "preaching" is designed to get people to apostasize against their former faith. (Hope you don't mind AllTimeJeff but it was a good comment. I know that is what she was looking forward to when she wanted to get back in.) And texted her husband. Hey sorry to bother u. But I just wanted to say I wld not be affended if Amber deleted me on Facebook I am apostate now. And speak against JWs! Respectfully {Me} Anyways I thought this was all hilarious! She is the girl that I was talking about in my early post. I believe she needs to be controled, seriously. She is the one that cheated on her husband while being a JW and cheats with her "best friend's husband", and then I had to hold this all in being a JW and her friend... heck no... I ratted her out to my elders and her husband and told her I did tell on her. After bagging her to confess her sins for months, I gave up... But to make it fair I confessed my sins too, so we both got DFed. But I really wanted nothing to do with her but didn't know how to tell her. I cared for her... don't know why but I did. Eventually when she keep on telling me her cheating stories and stuff I told her I think we should stop talking.
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  I'm 'Apostate' now....

  by Butterflyleia85 in

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  a new 'apostate'.. according to dictionary.... one who has abandoned one's religious faith, a political party, one's principles, or a cause.

  toward the jehovah's witnesses.. shewww... it feels good.

  weird i never thought i'd say that.. as far as my belief system... i realize they are still going to be based on my up bringing as a jehovah's witness (morals included) so i call myself a chirstian.. {gees it feels like i just hopped over the fence or something in the movie "village" haha}.

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  Yelp! Thanks... BagaYaga and readyornot!
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  I am gay and Jehovah Witness

  by yosisoy in

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  hello, i am jehovah witness and gay.

  i am from puerto rico.

  i would like to know how hard is to leave the organization.

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  Hello!!! and Welcome!
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  I'm 'Apostate' now....

  by Butterflyleia85 in

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  a new 'apostate'.. according to dictionary.... one who has abandoned one's religious faith, a political party, one's principles, or a cause.

  toward the jehovah's witnesses.. shewww... it feels good.

  weird i never thought i'd say that.. as far as my belief system... i realize they are still going to be based on my up bringing as a jehovah's witness (morals included) so i call myself a chirstian.. {gees it feels like i just hopped over the fence or something in the movie "village" haha}.

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  I couldn't help it! I'm out there now about it! A new 'apostate'.

  According to dictionary...

  One who has abandoned one's religious faith, a political party, one's principles, or a cause.

  toward the Jehovah's Witnesses.

  Shewww... It feels good. Weird I never thought I'd say that.

  As far as my belief system... I realize they are still going to be based on my up bringing as a Jehovah's Witness (morals included) so I call myself a Chirstian.

  {Gees it feels like I just hopped over the fence or something in the movie "Village" haha}

  ((I love my JW family and old friends, I know if they stay strong they will die with peace in mind, as for me I feel good with how things are going, love and peace be with them, it's on them as far as conscience goes I respect their beleifs and they respect mine))

  To the people on here,

  Thank you so much!!
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  My JW mom that don't go to meeting anyways... (about blood issue)

  by Butterflyleia85 in

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  my mom sent me this..... important fyi... a lot to digest, but well worth the read.... .

  ----- original message -----.

  friends,.

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  My mom sent me this....

  IMPORTANT FYI... A lot to digest, but WELL worth the read...

  ----- Original Message -----

  Friends,
  
  I received this today from the brothers at Alt Med Services in Blackhawk, SD. I trust their reliability as brothers, and the fact that there are several kinds of blood in the vaccine will be of concern to all of Jehovah's people.
  http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid 090818070203AAnRB70

  According to the above site, done by a Medical Doctor, this is what is in the "Swine-Flu" Vaccine:aluminum hydroxide
  aluminum phosphate
  ammonium sulfate
  amphotericin B
  animal tissues: pig blood, horse blood, rabbit brain,
  dog kidney, monkey kidney,
  chick embryo, chicken egg, duck egg
  calf (bovine) serum
  betapropiolactone
  fetal bovine serum
  formaldehyde
  formalin
  gelatin
  glycerolhuman diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue)
  hydrolized gelatin
  monosodium glutamate (MSG)
  neomycin
  neomycin sulfate
  phenol red indicator
  phenoxyethanol (antifreeze)
  potassium diphosphate
  potassium monophosphate
  polymyxin B
  polysorbate 20
  polysorbate 80
  porcine (pig) pancreatic hydrolysate of casein
  residual MRC5 proteins
  sorbitol
  sucrosethimerosal (mercury)tri(n)butylphosphat e,VERO cells, a continuous line of monkey kidney cells
  washed sheep red blood cells

  What's The Danger of Swine Flu Vaccinations? (excerpt from Rense.com) By Dr. Anders Bruun Laursen ".there is another important consideration: the role of squalene. The average quantity of squalene injected into the US soldiers abroad and at home in the anthrax vaccine during and after the Gulf War was 34.2 micrograms per billion micrograms of water. According to one study, this was the cause of the Gulf War syndrome in 25% of 697.000 US personnel at home and abroad. You can find this table of FDA analyses from the Gulf War lots on The Military Vaccine Resource Directory website a.. AVA 020 - 11 ppb squalene (parts per billion) b.. AVA 030 - 10 ppb squalene c.. AVA 038 - 27 ppb squalene d.. AVA 043 - 40 ppb squalene e.. AVA 047 - 83 ppb squalene These values were confirmed by Prof. R. F. Garry before the House of Representatives. Prof Garry was the man to discover the connection between the Gulf War syndrome and squalene. According to his findings, the Gulf War syndrome was caused by squalene, which was banned by a Federal Court Judge in 2004 from the Pentagon's use. As seen on p. 6 of this EMEA document, the Pandremix vaccine contains 10,68 mg of squalene per 0,5 ml. This corresponds to 2.136.0000 microgrammes pr. billion microgrammes of water, i.e. one million times more squalene per dose. There is any reason to believe that this will make people sick to a much higher extent than in 1990/91. This appears murderous to me." http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=newsHighlights&newsIdF Then, in looking for some confirmation on Novartis putting gp 120 (an HIV/AIDS protein) in their vaccines, I found the following. The Vaccine May Be More Dangerous Than Swine Flu By Dr Russell Blaylock http://socioecohistory.wordpress.com/2009/07/15/dr-russell-bl. vaccine-may-be-more-dangerous-than-swine-flu/ ".Novartis, the second contender, also has an agreement with WHO for a pandemic vaccine. Novartis appears to have won the contract, since their vaccine is near completion. What is terrifying is that these pandemic vaccines contain ingredients, called immune adjuvants that a number of studies have shown cause devastating autoimmune disorders, including rheumatoid arthritis, multiple sclerosis and lupus. Animal studies using this adjuvant have found them to be deadly. A study using 14 guinea pigs found that when they were injected with the special adjuvant, only one animal survived. A repeat of the study found the same deadly outcome. So, what is this deadly ingredient? It is called squalene, a type of oil. The Chiron company, maker of the deadly anthrax vaccine, makes an adjuvant called MF-59 which contains two main ingredients of concern-squalene and gp120. A number of studies have shown that squalene can trigger all of the above-mentioned autoimmune diseases when injected. The MF-59 adjuvant has been used in several vaccines. These vaccines, including tetanus and diphtheria, are the same vaccines frequently associated with adverse reactions. I reviewed a number of studies on this adjuvant and found something quite interesting. Several studies done on human test subjects found MF-59 to be a very safe immune adjuvant. But when I checked to see who did these studies, I found-to no surprise-that they were done by the Novartis Pharmaceutical Company and Chiron Pharmaceutical Company, which have merged. They were all published in "prestigious" medical journals. Also, to no surprise, a great number of studies done by independent laboratories and research institutions all found a strong link between MF-59 and autoimmune diseases. Squalene in vaccines has been strongly linked to the Gulf War Syndrome. On August 1991, Anthony Principi, Secretary of Veterans Affairs admitted that soldiers vaccinated with the anthrax vaccine from 1990 to 1991 had an increased risk of 200 percent in developing the deadly disease amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS), also called Lou Gehrig's disease. The soldiers also suffered from a number of debilitating and life-shortening diseases, such as polyarteritis nodosa, multiple sclerosis (MS), lupus, transverse myelitis (a neurological disorder caused by inflammation of the spinal cord), endocarditis (inflammation of the heart's inner lining), optic neuritis with blindness and glomerulonephritis (a type of kidney disease). The second ingredient, and one that greatly concerns me, is called gp120, a glycoprotein. Researchers found when it was mixed with squalene, the glycoprotein became strongly antigenic - that is, it produced a powerful and prolonged immune response to the vaccination. In fact, their studies show that with each dose, the intense immune reaction lasts over a year. Now for the shocker-the glycoprotein-gp120, a major component of MF-59 vaccine adjuvant, is the same protein fragment isolated from HIV - the virus that is responsible for the rapid dementia seen in AIDS patients. Studies have shown that when gp120 is taken up by the microglia cells in the brain, it causes intense inflammation and makes the brain subject to excitotoxic damage-a process called immunoexcitotoxicity. This is also the cause of the MS and optic neuritis associated with vaccines that contain MF-59. So, how would the gp120 get into the brain? Studies of other immune adjuvants using careful tracer techniques have shown that they routinely enter the brain following vaccination. What most people do not know, even the doctors who recommend the vaccines, is that most such studies by pharmaceutical companies observe the patients for only one to two weeks following vaccination-these types of reactions may take months or even years to manifest. It is obvious that the vaccine manufacturers stand to make billions of dollars in profits from this WHO/government-promoted pandemic. Novartis, the maker of the new pandemic vaccine, recently announced that they would not give free vaccines to impoverished nations-everybody pays. One must keep in mind that once the vaccine is injected, there is little you can do to protect yourself-at least by conventional medicine. It will mean a lifetime of crippling illness and early death. There are much safer ways to protect oneself from this flu virus, such as higher doses of vitamin D3, selective immune enhancement using supplements, and a good diet." ( End of excerpt by Dr. Blaylock.) __________________________________________________________________________________ The implications of the following information on food allergies and vaccines are staggering. Any foreign material, when injected into the bloodstream via injection, is cataloged and ID'ed by your immune system and then thereafter attacked as an enemy to the body (antibody response). Food is recognized as a friend when it enters through the gut, which is the normal channel. But if food is 'injected' into your veins.the body attacks the molecules of that food and 'learns' that it is to be attacked in future. Would it shock you to learn that nearly every food that you eat is included as an ingredient in the vaccines? Adapted from www.VacTruth.com: Unless you have children in school, you might be unaware of the epidemic of severe and fatal food allergies. It seems that food allergies are becoming so common that they are just accepted as a part of modern life. But food allergies are a recent phenomenon. The first case of food allergy (milk) was published in 1901. First case of nut allergy -1920. Sesame allergy - 1950 . First case of Brazil nut anaphylaxis in the UK - 1983. First known case of lupin allergy - 1994 So what is going on with our scientific research and food allergies? How come we can have all that fancy medical equipment and so many people have studied allergies and nobody has a clue where these food allergies are coming from? I actually looked at the ample data available . It doesn't take a medical degree to see the connection between vaccines and food allergies. I read the package inserts for vaccines. The first vaccine given to children, Hepatitis B, contains casein. It is often given before the baby leaves the hospital. Casein allergy usually appears in children in the first few months of life. The same company that manufactures the Hepatitis B vaccine also sells baby formula.Gee, what a coincidence! One of the next vaccines given to children at two months of age is the Pneumococcal conjugate (PCV7) . The package insert states "Each serotype is grown in soy peptone broth". Soy? "A soy allergy is most common in infants and is usually noticed by 3 months of age." Does the same manufacturer of this vaccine also make infant formula? Yep. Highly refined food oils are a trade secret ingredient in vaccines. They can be mixed together. Patents for vaccine adjuvants list the oils used. "8. The pharmaceutical emulsion of claim 1, wherein the oil phase further comprises almond oil; babassu oil; borage oil; black currant seed oil; canola oil; castor oil; coconut oil; corn oil; cottonseed oil; emu oil; evening primrose oil; flax seed oil; grapeseed oil; groundnut oil; mustard seed oil; olive oil; palm oil; palm kernel oil; peanut oil; rapeseed oil; safflower oil; sesame oil; shark liver oil; soybean oil; sunflower oil; hydrogenated castor oil; hydrogenated coconut oil; hydrogenated palm oil; hydrogenated soybean oil; hydrogenated vegetable oil; a mixture of hydrogenated cottonseed oil and hydrogenated castor oil; partially hydrogenated soybean oil; a mixture of partially hydrogenated soybean oil and partially hydrogenated cottonseed oil; glyceryl trioleate; glyceryl trilinoleate; glyceryl trilinolenate; a Ω3 polyunsaturated fatty acid triglyceride containing oil; or a mixture thereof." Foods are also used in the culture medium. "..In contrast, complex media will use extracts of a variety of things, including left-over animal parts (cow brains and hearts), yeast (from brewing) or digests of plants or animal slurries (peptones are one example of this category). The exact composition of these extracts is often unknown. The sources of these extracts often take advantage of waste products from other industries to save money.." "Vegetables preferably used are of leaf and root types e.g. various cabbages, beets, rutabaga, carrot, pumpkin, spinach, beet, watermelon, melon, peanut, artichoke, eggplant, pepper sweet, asparagus, and tomato. Fruits to be preferably used are apples, pears, kiwi, plums, citrus, apricots, grapes/raisins, mango, guava, bananas, biwa, cornel, fig, cherry plum, quince, peach, pomegranate, avocado, pineapple, date, papaya. Berries preferably include raspberry, bilberry, guelder rose, dog rose, ash berry (red and black), currant (red, black, and white), sea-buckthorn berries, gooseberry, schizandra, blackberry, cowberry, bird cherry, cranberry, sweet cherry, cherry, and strawberry. Preferred herbs and their roots are ginseng, celery, parsley, dill, dandelion, nettle, ginseng, and spinach. Preferred high protein products are offals including spleen, kidney, heart, liver, brains, maw, and stomach as well as mushrooms, sea products (fish, mussel, plankton for example), eggs or nuts. Preferred products of beekeeping are propolis, honey, royal jelly, and pollen of flower." "An adjuvant is a vaccine component that boosts the immune response to the vaccine. The adjuvant effects of aluminum were discovered in 1926. Aluminum adjuvants are used in vaccines such as hepatitis A, hepatitis B, diphtheria-tetanus-containing vaccines, Haemophilus influenzae type b, and pneumococcal vaccines, but they are not used in the live, viral vaccines, such as measles, mumps, rubella, varicella, or rotavirus." There is plenty of evidence that injections cause allergies. Injections have been used to create allergies in test animals. Any food protein remaining in the vaccine from the culture medium or diluent oils when injected along with an adjuvant can cause a food allergy. So my question to you is: If the medicine in our country is so highly advanced and there is plenty of evidence connecting vaccines to food allergies, why are we being told that "Scientists don't know why the incidence of food allergy is increasing." By Barbara F. Gregory, September 24, 2009 http://vactruth.com/2009/09/24/another-nasty-side-effect-from-vaccinations-a-lifetime-fear-of-dying-from-eating/ _____________________________________________________________________________________ Can vaccines cause chronic illnesses? Dr. Garth Nicholson, microbiologist and director of the Institute for Molecular Medicine, says yes. Lots of information on Mycoplasm fermentans contamination and the Gulf War veterans including treatment ______________________________________________________________________________________________ The following ingredients, officially administered by design with every vaccine provided to the public, in addition to the squalene that appears to be in this upcoming swine flu vaccine, is of great concern to many parents and grandparents, with the announcement that they will start vaccinating children and pregnant women first and then "wait to see if there are too many adverse events" (including seizures, neurological problems, and death). In addition to the viral and bacterial RNA or DNA that is part of the vaccines, here are the fillers: .. Aluminum hydroxide - directly linked to causing Alzheimer's disease . Aluminum phosphate - directly linked to causing Alzheimer's disease . Ammonium sulfate - an inorganic chemical compound used as fertilizer and "protein purifier"; known to cause kidney & liver damage, gastrointestinal dysfunctions . Amphotericin B - an "antifungal disinfectant" and anti-biotic, which damages the urinary tract, bowels, and heart functions . Animal tissues (a causal element for all the various auto-immune diseases associated with vaccination): horse blood, rabbit brain, dog kidney, monkey kidney, chick embryo, chicken egg, duck egg, pig blood, porcine (pig) pancreatic hydrolysate of casein (the pig protein/tissue is an additional objectionable issue for Jewish and Muslim people) . Calf (bovine) serum & fetal bovine serum (cow blood is recognized as a significant transmitter of Mad Cow Disease) . Betapropiolactone . Formaldehyde - used as "a preservative & disinfectant", known to cause cancer, chronic bronchitis, eye irritation when exposed to the body's immune system . Formalin . Gelatin . Glycerol . Human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue) . Hydrolyzed gelatin . Monosodium glutamate (MSG) - now known to cause cancer in humans, also linked to obesity . Neomycin (anti-biotic) . Neomycin sulfate (anti-biotic) . Phenol red indicator - a highly toxic disinfectant dye, attributed to liver, kidney, heart & respiratory damage . Phenoxyethanol (antifreeze) - proven to have extreme neurotoxic side effects . Potassium diphosphate . Potassium monophosphate . Polymyxin B . Polysorbate 20 . Polysorbate 80 - associated with infertility when injected . Residual MRC5 proteins . Sorbitol . Sucrose . Thimerosal (mercury) - a neurotoxin linked to psychological, neurological, & immunological problems-especially autism. Nervous system damage (such as sub-acute sclerosing panencephalitis (SSPE), brachial plexitis, post-vaccinal encephalitis, transverse myelitis and peripheral neuropathies), kidney disease, birth defects, dental problems, mood swings, mental changes, hallucinations, memory loss, and inability to concentrate can occur. Symptoms also include tremors, loss of dermal sensitivity, slurred speech, and-in rare cases-even death and paralysis. This additive alone was the catalyst for another recent Class Action Lawsuit organized by mothers of children born with autism & the many related behavioral disorders associated with it. Autism is now occurring at levels never seen before in history; depending on the state, its rate is now 1 in 67 to 1 in 150. The autism rates used to be 1 in 20,000. Mercury may also be associated with the significantly increased rates of senility and Alzheimer's, which is associated with five or more successive flu vaccinations. Although most mercury (thimerosal) has been removed from children's vaccines, it is still in all flu vaccines at toxic doses. . Tri(n)butylphosphate, . VERO cells, a continuous line of monkey kidney cells - linked to the SV-40 virus known to cause leukemia . Washed sheep red blood cells THESE ADDITIVES ARE GIVEN TO OUR CHILDREN WITHOUT PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE OR CONSENT. What's the problem with this horrendous looking list? The problem is two-fold: (1) the adjuvants are added to increase inflammation and immune response in the system, and (2) the adjuvants are significantly detrimental to the overall welfare of the organisms, according to the neurosurgeon Russell Blaylock, M.D., an expert in this field. His research suggests the vaccinations may cause brain swelling and inflammation for up to two years. This alone would be enough to significantly disrupt the immune and endocrine systems, as well as increase senility, activate Alzheimer's, and other brain dysfunctions. For example, Hugh Fudenberg, MD, Founder and Director of the Neuro lmmuno Therapeutic Research Foundation, reported at the NVIC International Vaccine Conference in Arlington, Virginia in September 1997, that five consecutive seasonal (yearly) flu shots increases the risk of Alzheimer's disease ten fold. Other devastating side effects of vaccines involve neurological damage, including encephalitis, transverse myelitis, peripheral nerve damage, autism, seizures, mental retardation, language delays, behavioral problems, multiple sclerosis, and SSPE (sub-acute sclerosing panencephalitis). There is also significant animal research that supports Blaylock's findings. _____________________________________________________________________________________ Study clearly demonstrates that aluminum found in vaccines can cause neurologic damage Types of vaccines (vaccine name/trade name, manufacturer, and information from the product insert) that contain aluminum adjuvant http://vactruth.com/2009/09/21/study-clearly-demonstrates-that-aluminum-found-in-vaccines-can-cause-neurologic-damage/ _____________________________________________________________________________________ Diseased African Monkeys Used to Make Swine Flu Vaccines; Private Military Contractor Holds Key Patents http://www.naturalnews.com/026779_swine_flu_patents_vaccines.html One of the key ingredients used in flu vaccines (including the vaccines being prepared for the swine flu pandemic) is the diseased flesh of African Green Monkeys. This is revealed in U.S. patent No. 5911998 - Method of producing a virus vaccine from an African green monkey kidney cell line. (http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/5911998/claims.html) As this patent readily explains, ingredients used in the vaccine are derived from the kidneys of African Green Monkeys who are first infected with the virus, then allowed to fester the disease, and then are killed so that their diseased organs can be used make vaccine ingredients. This is done in a cruel, inhumane "flesh factory" environment where the monkeys are subjected to a process that includes "incubating said inoculated cell line to permit proliferation of said virus." Then: "harvesting the virus resulting from step (c); and. (ii) preparing a vaccine from the harvested virus." Aside from the outrageous cruelty taking place with all this ("incubating" the virus in the kidneys of living monkeys, for example), there's another disturbing fact that has surfaced in all this: The patent for this process is held not just by the National Institutes of Health, but by another private corporation known as DynCorp. This, of course, brings up the obvious question: Who is Dyncorp? And why do they hold a patent on live attenuated vaccine production using African Green Monkeys? What you probably didn't want to know about Dyncorp DynCorp, it turns out, is a one of the top private military contractors working for the U.S. government. In addition to allegedly trafficking in under-age sex slaves in Bosnia (http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id119) and poisoning rural farmers in Ecuador with its aerial spraying of Colombian coca crops (http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id88), Dyncorp just happens to be paid big dollars by the U.S. government to patrol the U.S. / Mexico border, near where the H1N1 first swine flu virus was originally detected. DynCorp also happens to be in a position to receive tremendous financial rewards from its patents covering attenuated live viral vaccine harvesting methods, as described in four key patents jointly held by DynCorp and the National Institutes of Health: (6025182) Method for producing a virus from an African green monkey kidney cell line (6117667) Method for producing an adapted virus population from an African green monkey kidney cell line (http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6117667/description.html) (5911998) Method of producing a virus vaccine from an African green monkey kidney cell line (5646033) African green monkey kidney cell lines useful for maintaining viruses and for preparation of viral vaccines Government collusion? One of the key inventors in these patents now held by DynCorp was Dr. Robert H. Purcell. Who is Dr. Robert Purcell? He's one of the co-chiefs of the Laboratory of Infectious Diseases of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases operating under the National Institutes of Health of the U.S. government. (http://www3.niaid.nih.gov/labs/aboutlabs/lid/) Free registration is required to read the rest of this article at Natural News, Mike Adams the Health Ranger's site. http://www.naturalnews.com/026779_swine_flu_patents_vaccines.html

  I sent her this...

  From:

  Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 14:45
  To:
  Subject: Re: Blood in the vaccine?? Ingredients in the H1N1 Swine flu vaccine

  "When I was part of JWs Writing Department during the time I lived and worked at the world headquarters of JWs in New York for over ten years, I prepared an article"....

  ..."As a side note, I didn’t know that vaccinations were forbidden up until 1952, when Witness leaders reversed course. I became a JW in 1954 and no one told me about a ban on vaccinations. Now, virtually all JWs will accept a vaccination, and many are unaware that it could be derived from blood."

  Check out this Sister give us insite on the Organization http://www.freeminds.org/sociology/other/why-it-is-dangerous-to-associate-with-jehovahs-witnesses.html

  Love,

  {me}

  So she sent this...

  {me}

  Websites like this I really don’t want and I don’t want to know that you are reading them. I give you information and it is a conscious matter. If you feel that the amount of blood that is in the vaccine is ok then it is your conscious. But websites talking about how harmful the witnesses are, actually are apostate and I am really worried that you read them.

  I love you.

  MOM

  "The greatest of all mistakes is to do nothing because you can only do a little.

  Do what you can." - Sydney Smith

  Crap so now she is worried I'm looking at this stuff... Geez hope she doesn't start thinking I'm becoming "apostate", I want us to continue to talk! But I don't want her to know I never want to go back. I want her to actually see JW as it is. EEK... How should I respond? Any suggestions. I want to be smart about this.
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  "did you know that jws are encouraged to report on other jws who break a medical doctrine such as the ban on blood?

  jws will do this to attain status with both jehovah and with peers.

  they will tattle-tail even if it breaks medical or legal confidentiality laws.".....

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  Good point Gary

  and as I continue reading this topic too...

  "Witnesses appear to be happy, successful, at peace, and united. It’s all a show though. They are typically depressed, lonely, have low self-esteem, are overly dependent on the organization, frustrated and confused. The reason for that topic in the Awake! magazine I showed you in the beginning of this lecture is because so many Witnesses suffer from depression. In many congregations, it is estimated that as many as half the women are taking anti-depressive medication. Why is that?

  Because they believe they have no value, except to serve God through his organization. They only feel valuable when conforming to what the role model is as portrayed in Witness literature. Witnesses feel guilty that they don’t do enough for the “work,” as it is called. Witnesses are on a perpetual treadmill, trying to run faster and faster to gain approval. That’s why I call it a “performance religion.” In reality, organizational status and reputation is the most important thing to a JW. They say announcing God’s purpose is the most important thing, but it actually is secondary."

  Geez I could say this is more then true! My poor mom and poor grandma... deep down that's how it is.