Posts by Butterflyleia85

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I'm new here...

by Demokan in

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friends

i'm 15, and i'm an unbaptized publisher... so i've been what you call "lurking" here for the past few weeks and i have some questions.

i hear you guys constantly mentioning ttatt so where can i go to learn more about this (links please)?

also i've already told my mom that i don't believe in the governing body and she is making me do even more!

I'm a mom and I to agree with wasblind. Your parents are just trying to do whats right and protect you (it's our job ha joking a bet, even though sometimes we want to be the cool and easy going we feel it will set up are kiddos for a good future). If you are not ready to get baptised then DONT GET BAPTISED that is a personal decision, your parents should respect you on that one!

Point out if you want me to respect you and obey your rules please respect my personal relationship with God.

And to you, personally, I think your awesome to keep your discovery open and learning, understand, what is the right thing to do in life... because of that you can BE and DO great things!

You will not get disfellowshiped because you are not baptised but you can be silently marked (I don't think they use this term anymore) in the hall. You only get into trouble... if you make trouble though.... they will talk to your parents and guilt them into disaplining you.

And ONE HUGH SUGGESTION!!! DONT TRY TO GET YOUR FAMILY OUT OF THE CULT... lay low and hold tight... you know the truth you need a plan and in the future when you don't have quesions yourself THEN ONLY THEN you can use your plan of action.

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WT SHUNNING POLICY: What has it done, or could it do to you?

by flipper in

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friends

hi y'all, this is mrs. flipper.

please share your experiences with this, or possible consequences of being outed.. this recent controversy and resulting arguments all stem from people being outed - possibly losing friends and family because most jw's will blindly follow the watchtower's rules to shun them.. among people i know and experiences read here, the grief and loss caused by this is terrible, and maybe now is a good time to put up some experiences here, and put the focus on the worst villians of all - wt policymakers..

Butterflyleia85

I feel like shunning is horrible always have... but I remember when I did it myself so going though this was good for me... I never want my kids to experience any of it! They will know true love.

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Hi! I'm back...

by babygirl30 in

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friends

it's been awhile since i have been back and posted here - went through some things/changes in my life (good/bad).

but just wanted to say (hi) to all my ex-jw's and lingerers!

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Butterflyleia85

Welcome back!! :)

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The official list of things for which you may be disfellowshipped

by slimboyfat in

from the secret elders' book which states that the list "of course" is "not comprehensive".

nevertheless here are the acts that they deem worthy of specifying as being possible grounds for chucking people out:.

murdermanslaughter such as killing someone while breaking traffic lawsattempting suicidesexual intercourse with someone other than your spouseanal sex with someone other than your spouseoral sex with someone other than your spousesexual stimulation of the genitals of someone other than your spousedelay in reporting a rape?

Butterflyleia85

What about gambling? I thought that was too.

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Missing Books of JW bible

by Wordly Andre in

- vitally important phrase completely removed.

-- important phrase completely removed.

Butterflyleia85

This is good!!! Keeping this under favorites.

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Memorial Day.... still struggling with the idea of war and support

by Butterflyleia85 in

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friends

so i do respect and am very greatful for the sacrifies those who dedicated their family, lives, etc.

to defend our freedom, lives, and land, but if we lived in a world where we lived as monks or jehovah's witnesses (basicly just the practise of no war).... would that be wrong?.

what's a good lesson or level of reasoning when supporting the idea of war?.

Butterflyleia85

Thank you for your comments... yes I feel the same way humbled but I'm also in agreement with Lisa... still struggle. My stand is still null.

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Memorial Day.... still struggling with the idea of war and support

by Butterflyleia85 in

jw
friends

so i do respect and am very greatful for the sacrifies those who dedicated their family, lives, etc.

to defend our freedom, lives, and land, but if we lived in a world where we lived as monks or jehovah's witnesses (basicly just the practise of no war).... would that be wrong?.

what's a good lesson or level of reasoning when supporting the idea of war?.

Butterflyleia85

Thank you everyone for your posts!! Wish I could answer each one of you! My thoughts are still meant for peace but I guess that's why there are verify of ppl to handle these kind of things.

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Memorial Day.... still struggling with the idea of war and support

by Butterflyleia85 in

jw
friends

so i do respect and am very greatful for the sacrifies those who dedicated their family, lives, etc.

to defend our freedom, lives, and land, but if we lived in a world where we lived as monks or jehovah's witnesses (basicly just the practise of no war).... would that be wrong?.

what's a good lesson or level of reasoning when supporting the idea of war?.

Butterflyleia85

So I do respect and am very greatful for the sacrifies those who dedicated their family, lives, etc. to defend our freedom, lives, and land, BUT if we lived in a world where we lived as monks or Jehovah's Witnesses (basicly just the practise of no war).... would that be wrong?

What's a good lesson or level of reasoning when supporting the idea of war?

I just hate war. I hate violance. I think that if we all practice peace and not promote war any more but yet the rememberance of the lives that did suffer for us.... wouldn't the world be a better place.

Maybe when we put down our swords others will follow? That sound crazy with the world we live in... but seriously where did Jesus show that going to war was ok?

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Happy Memorial Day

by Jomavrick in

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thanks to all of the veterans and thier families who sacrificed so much for our behalf.

go visit a cemetary today and leave some flowers, watch a war movie today.. peace.

Butterflyleia85

Happy Memorial Day to you all too!!!

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My babies! :) Just a feel good picture.... makes you smile.

by Butterflyleia85 in

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friends

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Butterflyleia85

Thank you ruderedhead, found sheep, and billy the ex-bethelite (great videos by the way!).

Thanks whathappened and sooner7nc!

Haha Satanus that's funny!

HAHA moshe you crack me up for a minute there I was like crap did I misspell again!! I think everyone on JWN know by now I can't spell... so I can say I find it fun to just laugh at myself... and seriously I thought I spelled boobs for a minute there. Ha But I didn't and ummm yes everybody loves babies and kittens...

Thank you wasblind and Aunt Fancy!

Aww LisaRose your granddaughter Lain is adorable!! I love blond hair blue eyes!! My husband had really blond hair and blue eyes when he was that age and I'm crossing my fingers alexis will too.

Aww mamochan13 that's so sweet... my mom feels the same way when I bring my kiddos over. Hehe

Zordino... I think JWs make excuses for that... ;)

Thank you talesin, Thor and mind blown.

Mouthy you are so awesome to be on here. I love your posts no matter what! It your honesty and your ways that I love about you!! In a way you kinda replace the grandma that has shunned me... I miss her so much even when she can be a bit blunt about things. Hehe I just say Oh grandma... (sigh and roll my eyes with a smile) ok ok your right... She puts me in my place for sure. I wish she got to see her grandkids (she shuns me and there for my children have to suffer)... well at least you get to enjoy them for them. They're not apostate children... no labels... But when looked upon I want everyone to smile and see them for who they are... Precious.