Missing Books of JW bible

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  • Wordly Andre
    Wordly Andre

    Forgive me if this has been covered already, however this past weekend I was visiting a cousin who was aware that some books in the JW bible were missing, but it was really downplayed why and what books, I found the following online:

    Matthew 17:21 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
    "Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting."

    Matthew 18:11 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
    "For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost."

    Matthew 23:14 -- COMPLETELY removed. What arethe Jehovah's Witness missing?
    "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation."

    Mark 7:16 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
    "If any man have ears to hear, let him hear."

    Mark 9:44 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
    "Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched."

    Mark 9:46 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
    "Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched."

    Mark 11:26 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
    "But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses."

    Mark 15:28 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
    "And the scripture was fulfilled, which saith, And he was numbered with the transgressors."

    Mark 16:9-20 ( all 12 verses ) -- They separated the last 12 verses of Mark from the main text in an appendix (of sorts) with this detracting statement: "Some late manuscripts and versions contain a short conclusion after Mark 16:8, as follows] (New World Translation, Revised 1984 edition)

    Luke 1:28 - Vitally important phrase COMPLETELY removed. "blessed art thou among women"

    Luke 17:36 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
    "Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left."

    Luke 23:17 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
    "(For of necessity he must release one unto them at the feast.)"

    John 5:4 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
    "For an angel went down at a certain season into the pool, and troubled the water: whosoever then first after the troubling of the water stepped in was made whole of whatsoever disease he had."

    Jn. 7:53- 8:11 ( all 12 verses ) -- They separated the last 12 verses of Mark from the main text and place it at the bottom of the page in a appendix (of sorts) with this detracting statement: "Manuscripts NBSYS omit verses 53 to chapter 8, verse 11, which read ( with some variations in the various Greek texts and versions) as follows:"

    Acts 8:37 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
    "And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God."

    Acts 15:34 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
    "Notwithstanding it pleased Silas to abide there still."

    Act 24:6-8 -- Vitally important phrases (from verses 6,8) and all of verse 7 COMPLETELY removed. "and would have judged according to our law. But the chief captain Sysias came upon us, and with great violence took him away out of our hands, commanding his accusers to come unto thee:"

    Acts 28:29 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
    "And when he had said these words, the Jews departed, and had great reasoning among themselves."

    Romans 16:24 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are the Jehovah's Witness missing?
    "The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen."

    Colossians 1:2 -- Important phrase COMPLETELY removed. "and the Lord Jesus Christ"

    Colossians 2:2 -- Important phrase COMPLETELY removed. "and of the Father, and"

    I John 5:13 -- Vitally important phrase COMPLETELY removed. "and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God"

    Rev 1:11 -- Vitally important phrase COMPLETELY removed. "I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and,"

    Rev 2:15 -- important phrase COMPLETELY removed "which thing I hate"

    Rev 21:24 -- Important phrase COMPLETELY removed. "of them which are saved"

    I John 5:7 -- Vitally important phrase COMPLETELY removed. In the Jehovah's Witness "New World Translation" it says,

    "For there are three witness bearers,"

    What are the NWT readers missing? What does the real Bible say?

    "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."

    This is one of the GREATEST verses testifying of the trinity. That is why the Jehovah's Witnesses leave it out. They do not believe in the trinity and they do not believe that Jesus is God. Whole books have been written on the manuscript evidence that supports inclusion of this verse in the Bible. Reader, do you believe in the triunity of God? If so, then this deletion should offend you. These cultists are playing around with the Bible and it isn't funny.

    Can anyone tell me if this is all that is missing, I was looking at my catholic bible last night however I do not own a JW bible anymore, and have never thought (probably like most JW) to compare side by side.

    I also had an interesting conversation with my cousin about how the bible was put together, although she is no longer a DUB she was pretty disgusted over JW's tampering with the bible.

  • aniron
    aniron



    You will find that 1 John 5:8 is not in many modern translations as it is now recognised as a late edition to scripture.




    Footnotes: NIV

    1. 1 John 5:8 Late manuscripts of the Vulgate testify in heaven: the Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one. 8 And there are three that testify on earth: the (not found in any Greek manuscript before the sixteenth century)

    Footnotes: NLT

    1. 1 John 5:7 Some very late manuscripts add in heaven--the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one. And we have three witnesses on earth.

    Also
    The most reliable early manuscripts and other ancient witnesses do not have Mark 16:9-20. That is why in some translations it has a footnote explaining so.

    Acts 24:6-8 Footnotes: NLT

    1. Acts 24:6 Some manuscripts add We would have judged him by our law, 7but Lysias, the commander of the garrison, came and took him violently away from us, 8commanding his accusers to come before you

    True the WT NWT has missed out some scriptures. But you have to be careful because even non-JW Bible translators recognise that some of them are late editions to the original manuscripts.

    The scriptures in the NWT you have to worry about are notthe ones that are missing. But the ones that are there and been twisted to suit their own teachings.

  • Atlantis
    Atlantis

    Posted by "AWAKEJWS" some time back. http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/81195/1.ashx Verses About Christ and Salvation that were Mangled, Deleted,

    Sliced and Diced

    By

    The Greek and Hebrew Chefs of the Watchtower and Bible Tract Society

    Jesus is God but is an a god according to the Watchtower

    John 1:1 KJV: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God

    John 1:1 NWT: In the beginning the word was, and the Word was with God and the Word was a god

    Jesus claimed to be THE I AM (The Eternal God) but the Watchtower said He claimed to be the I have been.

    John 8:58: KJV: Jesus said unto them, ?Verily,verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.?

    John 8:58: NWT: Jesus said to them: ?Most truly I say to you, Before Abraham came into existence I have been.?

    God purchased the Church with His Own Blood, but The Watchtower said it is through the blood of his own son.

    Acts 20:28: KJV: Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

    *Acts 20:28: NWT: Pay attention to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the holy spirit has appointed you overseers, to shepherd the congregation of God, which he purchased with the blood of his own [Son].

    *Notes: Notice the word [Son] is in brackets. What do the brackets mean? The Watchtower claims they are used to ?complete the sense in the English Text because the words don?t appear in the original text.? First, there are no surviving original manuscripts. That?s the first lie in that statement. Second, the word SON in Acts 20:28 does not appear in the oldest and current manuscripts even though the word exists (Hurios). Hurios doesn?t even appear in the corrupted Text of Westcott and Horts that was used by the Watchtower for their New Testament Translation but in their Kingdom Interlinear Bible of the Greek Scriptures word appears in the Greek Text. The NIV, New King James and other version of the Bible do not insert the word SON in Acts 20:28 and these translation were based on the Westcott and Horts Text. Why does the Watchtower add the word SON in Acts 20:28 if it?s not in the older manuscripts and the Greek word does exists? By adding the word Son changes the context of the verse. It doesn?t complete the sense according to the Watchtower it changes the sense. The Watchtower does it because Jehovah?s Witnesses don?t believe in the Deity of Jesus Christ so therefore; they must change the text to conform their theology.

    Paul Spoke of having faith in Christ, but the Watchtower said it is just belief in Christ

    Acts 24:24: KJV: he sent for Paul, and heard him concerning the faith in Christ

    *Acts 24:24 NWT: he sent for Paul and listened to him on the belief in Christ

    *Notes: To have faith in Christ would make Him God. Abraham is known as the father of faith because he had faith in God. Believers are to exercise and put their faith in God and not to an a god or an angel that is capable of sinning. When real believers in Christ pray to Jesus, they have full faith that Christ will fulfill their prayers. This makes Jesus God Almighty because faith in HIM is having Faith in God. Jehovah?s Witnesses put their faith in an organization rather than Faith in Christ. (See The Watchtower; March 1, 1979; page 1;) The cover page speaks a thousand words. ?Put your faith in a victorious organization.?

    We are all going to stand before the judgment seat of Christ, but according to the Watchtower,

    it is the judgment seat of God!

    Rom 14:10: KJV: But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? For

    we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.

    Rom 14:10: NWT: But why do you judge your brother? Or why do you also look down on your brother?

    For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of God:

    Born Again Christians serve our Lord Jesus Christ, but Jehovah?s Witnesses are His slaves:

    Rom 16:18: KJV: For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple

    *Rom 16:18: NWT: For men of that sort are slaves, not of our Lord Christ, but of their own bellies; and by smooth talk and complimentary speech they seduce the hearts of guileless ones.

    Notes: To serve our Lord Jesus Christ means, worshipping and witnessing for Him. We are not suppose to serve a god or an angel. We serve God only. Ex 23:25; ?And ye shall serve the LORD your God, and he shall bless thy bread, and thy water; and I will take sickness away from the midst of thee.? Deut 10:12; ?And now, Israel, what doth the LORD thy God require of thee, but to fear the LORD thy God, to walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul.? Josh 24:15 ?And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.? The Watchtower must change this verse because serving our Lord Jesus Christ will make Him God. We must be His slaves saith the Watchtower. This is disgusting on the part of the Watchtower to call us ?slaves of Christ.? No real born again Christians considers themselves slaves for Christ. We are servants of the Lord Jesus Christ, not His slaves.

    The Grace of Jesus is with us all but Not with Jehovah?s Witnesses. It has been deleted in their bibles

    Rom 16:24: KJV: The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.

    Rom 16:24: NWT: Deleted completely.

    The greatest curse (Anathema) of all is if we do not love The Lord Jesus Christ.

    The name Jesus Christ has been deleted from this next verse.

    1 Cor. 16:22: KJV: If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha.

    1 Cor. 16:22: NWT: If anyone has no affection for the Lord, let him be accursed. O our Lord, come!

    Jesus created all things, but the Watchtower claims He created all [other] things.

    Notice how sneaky the word [other] was inserted in the text.

    Col 1:16: KJV: By him were all things created

    *Col 1:16: NWT: Because by mean of him all [other] things were created

    *Notes: The Greek words for ?Other? is [ALLA, Loipá;Masculine, hétera] and they appear in several verses in the New Testament (MK 4:19; 7:4; Luke 3:18; 2 Cor 1:13). There is no need to insert the word other to complete the sense of the text. This actually changes the context of the text. Jehovah?s Witnesses cannot have Jesus Christ creating ALL THINGS. That will make Him God. Not one Greek word for ?Other? appears in older manuscripts and the apostles had the words in their possession since it was used in several OTHER passages. This destroys the Deity of our Lord Jesus Christ and makes Him a created being.

    Jesus Christ exists before all things, but the Watchtower claims he exists before all [other] things. Again, how sneaky to insert that word [other] in the text.

    Col 1:17: KJV: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

    Col 1:17 NWT: Also, he is before all [other] things and by means of him all [other] things were made to exist

    God was manifested in the Flesh. This is a reference to the deity of Christ. But the Watchtower changed the word ?God? for the Word HE. This destroys again the Deity of Christ.

    1Ti 3:16: KJV: God was manifest in the flesh.

    1Ti 3:16: NWT He was made manifest in the flesh.

    Jesus Christ is glorified by men but not by Jehovah Witnesses. The last 15 words were deleted from the New World Translation.

    1 Peter 4:14: KJV: If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you: on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is glorified.

    1 Peter 4:14: NWT: If You are being reproached for the name of Christ, You are happy, because the spirit of glory, even the spirit of God, is resting upon you?.

    Jesus Christ is given glory and dominion, for Jehovah?s Witnesses he given only might. Christ?s Glory and dominion has been deleted from the NWT:

    1 Peter 5:11: KJV: To him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

    1 Peter 5:11: NWT: To him be the might forever. Amen.

    Jesus is THE ALPHA AND THE OMEGA, THE FIRST AND THE LAST, but Jehovah?s Witnesses don?t believe this because those ten words have been deleted from their bible.

    Re 1:11: KJV: I am the Alpha and Omega, the first and the last

    *Re 1:11 NWT: These words deleted completely.

    *Notes: This will make Jesus Christ God because it is illogical to have 2 individuals claiming to be THE FIRST AND THE LAST, THE ALPHA AND THE OMEGA. There can only be One first and one last. God made this claim in the Old Testament (IS. 44:6; 48:12). No way can we have Jesus Christ THE FIRST AND THE LAST, that?s God?s title saith the Watchtower. They must delete this part of the verse.

    The twenty elders worshipped HIM THAT LIVETH FOREVER (That?s Jesus Christ). ?Him that liveth forever? has been deleted from the New World Translation

    Re 5:14: KJV: Four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever.

    Re 5:14: NWT: the elders fell down and worshipped???

    Stephen?s last prayer before he got stoned to death was to God and address Him as Christ Jesus, but according to the Watchtower, Stephen made an appeal to Jesus (not a prayer) and eliminated the words ?calling upon God.? Again destroying the Deity of Jesus Christ. What an atrocity. What a way to die for Christ huh! His last word was JESUS .

    Acts 7:59-60: KJV: And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit. And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep.

    Acts 7:59-60: NWT: And they went on casting stones at Stephen as he made appeal and said: ?Lord Jesus, receive my spirit. Then bending his knees, he cried out with a strong voice: ?Jehovah, do not charge this sin against them. And after saying this he fell asleep [in death].

    People are Martyrs for Jesus Christ but according to the Watchtower,

    they are just witnesses not Martyrs

    Acts 22:20: KJV: And when the blood of thy martyr Stephen was shed, I also was standing by, and consenting unto his death, and kept the raiment of them that slew him.

    *Acts 22:20: NWT: and when the blood of Stephen your witness was being spilled, I myself was also standing by the and approving and guarding the outer garments of those doing away with him.

    Notes: What is a MARTYR? The meaning of the word martyr, which has now become the most usual, is one who has proved the strength and genuineness of his or her faith in Christ by undergoing a violent death. (From The New Unger's Bible Dictionary. Originally published by Moody Press of Chicago, Illinois. Copyright (c) 1988.) A martyr and a witness are not synonymous to each other. If people are found in the Bible as being Martyrs for Christ that would make Jesus an object of worship. This has to be changed in the JWs Bible. See below for other verses that demote the martyrs to witnesses.

    Rev 2:13; KJV: I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan's seat is: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth.

    Rev 2:13; NWT: I know where you are dwelling, that is, where the throne of Satan is; and yet you keep on holding fast my name, and you did not deny your faith in me even in the days of Antipas, my witness, the faithful one, who was killed by YOUR side, where Satan is dwelling.

    Rev 17:6; KJV: And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

    Rev 17:6 NWT: And I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of the holy ones and with the blood of the witnesses of Jesus.

    Born Again Christians say Jesus is THE ROCK of our Spiritual Salvation, but Jehovah?s Witnesses say He is the rock-mass. This again destroys the Deity of Jesus Christ.

    1 Cor 10:4; KJV: And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

    1 Cor 10:4; NWT: and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they used to drink from the spiritual rock-mass that followed them and that rock-mass meant the Christ.

    Paul the apostle said the Hebrews in the Old Testament tempted Christ in the wilderness (The Time of Moses) and where destroyed by serpents but Jehovah?s Witnesses say if was Jehovah (In other words the Father of Jesus) that was tempted. The Watchtower changed the word Christ for the word Jehovah. Again, destroying the Deity of Jesus Christ.

    1 Cor 10:9; KJV; Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of

    serpents.

    *1 Cor 10:9; NWT; Neither let us put Jehovah to the test, as some of them put [him] to the test, only to perish by the serpents.

    *Notes: Older manuscripts such as Codex Siniaticus, Received Text etc all have the Greek word CHRISTOS appearing in 1 Cor 10:9.

    God Laid down His Life for us but according to the Watchtower it was Jesus Christ who is not God. The Watchtower removes the phrase ?OF GOD? to destroy the Deity of Christ and adds the words ?the one.?

    1 John 3:16;KJV: Herby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us; and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.

    1 John 3:16;NWT By love, because the one surrendered his soul for us, and we are under obligation to surrender our souls for our brothers

    Jesus Christ is worshipped by the wise men but for Jehovah?s Witnesses

    Claims obeisance is done to Christ not worship.

    Matt 2:2; KJV; Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him.

    Matt 2:2; NWT: saying: ?Where is the one born king of the Jews? For we saw his star [when we were? in the east, and we have come to do him obeisance.

    A ruler worshipped Jesus but for the watchtower say it was just an act of obeisance.

    Matt 9:18; KJV: While he spake these things unto them, behold, there came a certain ruler, and worshipped him, saying, My daughter is even now dead: but come and lay thy hand upon her, and she shall live.

    Matt 9:18; NWT; While he was telling them these things, look! A certain ruler who had approached began to do obeisance to him, saying: ?By now my daughter must be dead, but come and lay your hand upon her and she will come to life.

    Angels worship Jesus Christ but The Watchtower claims angels do an act of obeisance to Jesus.

    Heb 1:6; KJV: And again, when he bringeth in the first begotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

    *Heb 1:6; NWT: But when he again brings his Firstborn into the inhabited earth, he says: ?And let all God?s angels do obeisance to him.

    *Notes: This verse makes no sense. When Jesus was brought into the inhabited earth, how did angels in heaven do the act of obeisance to Jesus? In order for angels to do the act of obeisance to Jesus, Jesus must be in the presence of the angels. How did the angels accomplish this if He was on earth?

    Jesus Christ came to the earth to save those that are lost in sin but Jehovah?s Witnesses don?t believe this because is has been deleted from their Bible.

    Mt 18:11; KJV: For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost

    Mt 18:11; NWT: Deleted completely.

    The fullness of the Godhead dwells bodily in Jesus Christ but Jehovah?s Witness believe it is the fullness of the divine quality that dwells in Jesus Christ.

    Col 2:9; KJV: For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    *Col 2:9; NWT: Because it is in him that all the fullness of the divine quality dwells bodily.

    *Notes: What does ?the fullness of the divine quality dwells bodily? mean? Does this mean Jesus Christ is 100% like God but he is not God? Take a close look again of the NWT translation of Col 2:9. Jesus has the fullness (100%) of the divine quality but he is not divine himself. Talk about double talk huh.

    We have redemption and forgiveness through the Blood of Jesus Christ but for Jehovah?s Witnesses, they were released by ransom, not through the redemptive blood of Jesus.

    Col 1:14; KJV: In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins

    Col 1:14:NWT: By means of whom we have our release by ransom, the forgiveness of our sins.

    God himself said speaking in the first person, ?They will look upon me whom they have pierced?, but Jehovah?s Witnesses don?t believe this because the Watchtower

    changed the word ME for the words THE ONE.

    Zech 12:10; KJV: And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

    Zech 12:10; NWT: And I will pour out upon the house of David and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem the spirit of favor and entreaties, and they will certainly look to the One whom they pierced through, and they will certainly wail over Him as in the wailing over an only [son] and there will be a bitter lamentation over him as when there is bitter lamentation over the firstborn [son].

    Jesus Christ is the author and finisher of our faith but for Jehovah?s Witnesses, He is the chief agent and Perfecter of our faith. Jehovah?s Witnesses can?t have Jesus as the author and finisher of our faith. That would make him God. The author and finisher of our faith should be

    God not an angel or an a god. So this must be changed immediately in the Jws Bible.

    Heb 12:2;KJV: Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

    Heb 12:2;NWT: as we look intently at the Chief Agent and Perfecter of our faith, Jesus.

    Born Again Christians who names the Lord Jesus must depart from iniquity, but the Watchtower claims it is the name of Jehovah (The Father).

    2 Tim 2:19;KJV: Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

    2 Tim 2:19;NWT: For all that, the solid foundation of God stays standing, having this seal: ?Jehovah knows those who belong to Him, and: ?Let everyone naming the name of Jehovah renounce unrighteousness.

    The Gentiles will put their trust in the name of Jesus but for the Watchtower, they claim the nations will put their hope in his name.

    Matt 12:21;KJV: And in his name shall the Gentiles trust.

    Matt 12:21;NWT: Indeed in his name nations will hope.

    We Born Again Christians glorify God, even the Father of Our Lord Jesus Christ, but Jehovah?s Witnesses glorify only The God and Father of Our Lord Jesus Christ.

    Rom 15:6:KJV: That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.

    *Rom 15:6;NWT: that with one accord you may with one mouth glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.

    *Notes: Notice how sneaky the Watchtower translates Rom 15:6. They change the word EVEN for the word AND. This makes it sound like Paul is only speaking about one individual, The Father only. This again kills the Deity of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

    Jesus Christ receives us to the glory of God, but for Jehovah?s Witnesses say he welcomes us.

    This is truly a disgusting translation.

    Rom 15:7; KJV: Wherefore receive ye one another, as Christ also received us to the glory of God.

    Rom 15:7; NWT: Therefore welcome one another, just as the Christ also welcomed us, with glory to God in view.

    We are called to fellowship with Christ but Jehovah?s Witnesses don?t fellowship with Christ, they have a sharing with Him. To fellowship with Christ means praying to Him.

    1 Cor 1:9;KJV: God is faithful, by whom ye were called unto the fellowship of his Son Jesus Christ our Lord.

    1 Cor 1:9:NWT: God is faithful, by whom you were called into a sharing with his Son Jesus Christ Our Lord.

    Paul puts his trust in Jesus, but the Watchtower claims, it is hope in Jesus.

    Phil 2:19:KJV: But I trust in the Lord Jesus to send Timotheus shortly unto you, that I also may be of good comfort, when I know your state.

    Phil 2:19: NWT: For my part I am hoping in the Lord Jesus to send Timothy to you shortly, that I may be a cheerful soul when I get to know about the things pertaining to you.

    By Jesus Christ all things were created in heaven and earth, whether they be thrones, dominions, principalities and powers, but the Watchtower excluded dominions, principalities and powers and substituted them for lordships, governments and authorities and also claims all other things were created through Jesus and not by Jesus.

    Col 1:16;KJV: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him

    Col 1:16;NWT: Because by means of him all [other] things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, no matter whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All [other] things have been created through him and for him.

    Born Again Christians repent, but Jehovah?s Witnesses regret.

    Matt 21:32; KJV: For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye believed him not: but the publicans and the harlots believed him: and ye, when ye had seen it, repented not afterward, that ye might believe him.

    Matt 21:32;NWT: For John came to you in a way of righteousness, but you did not believe him. However, the tax collectors and the harlots believed him, and you, although you saw [this], did not feel regret afterwards so as to believe him.

    Born Again Christians repent, but Jehovah?s Witness remorse.

    Matt 27:3; KJV: Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders,

    Matt 27:3;NWT: Then Judas, who betrayed him, seeing he had been condemned, felt remorse and turned the thirty silver pieces back to the chief priests.

    Born Again Christians repent, but Jehovah?s Witnesses regret.

    Rom 11:29; KJV: For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

    Rom 11:29; NWT: For the gifts and the calling of God are not things he will regret.

    Born again Christians are instructed to Study their Bible but not Jehovah?s Witnesses. The word ?study? has been deleted in the NWT bible.

    2 Tim 2:15:KJV: Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

    2 Tim 2:15:NWT: Do your utmost to present yourself approved to God a workman with nothing to be ashamed of, handling the word of the truth aright.

    Born again Christians are made free from sin and become servants to God,

    but Jehovah?s Witness are slaves to Jehovah. Disgusting, really disgusting!

    Rom 6:22:KJV: But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.

    Rom 6:22;NWT: However, now, because you were set free from sin but became slaves to God, you are having your fruit in the way of holiness, and the end everlasting life.

    All things were made by Jesus Christ but Jehovah Witnesses believe all things were made into existence through Christ and not by Christ. This doesn?t make Jesus the primary creator but a secondary creator.

    John 1:3:KJV: All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

    John 1:3;NWT: All things came into existence through him, and apart from him not even one thing came into existence.

    Jesus Christ according to the flesh was raised up, but Jehovah?s Witnesses don?t believe this because it has been deleted from their NWT.

    Acts 2:30;KJV: Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

    Act 2:30;NWT: There, because he was a prophet and knew that God had sworn to him with an oath that he would seat one from the fruitage of his loins upon his throne.

    Jesus Christ is Lord of All, but according to Jehovah?s Witnesses, He is Lord of all [others.] Jehovah?s Witnesses love to add that word OTHER in many passages to distort the truth about Christ.

    Acts 10:36:KJV: The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: he is Lord of all

    Acts 10:36:NWT: He sent out the word to the sons of Israel to declare to them the good news of peace through Jesus Christ: This One is Lord of all [others.]

    Paul is a servant of Jesus Christ, But Jehovah?s Witness say Paul is a slave of Jesus Christ:

    Rom 1:1:KJV: Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,

    Rom 1:1:NWT: Paul, a slave of Jesus Christ and called to be an apostle, separated to God?s good news

    Born Again Christians are not ashamed of the Gospel of Christ, but Jehovah?s Witnesses are. They remove the name of Christ in the verse:

    Rom 1:16:KJV: For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

    Rom 1:16:NWT: For I am not ashamed of the good news; it is in fact, God?s power for salvation to everyone having faith to the Jew first and also to the Greek;

    Jesus Christ makes intercessions for us but, he pleads for Jehovah?s Witnesses:

    Rom 8:34;KJV Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

    Rom 8:34;NWT: Who is he that will condemn? Christ Jesus is the one who died, yes, rather the one who was raised up from the dead, who is on the right of God, who also pleads for us.

    Born Again Christians have communion with the Holy Ghost, but Jehovah?s Witnesses have a sharing with the Spirit:

    2 Cor 13:14:KJV: The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen.

    2 Cor 13:14;NWT: The undeserved kindness of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the sharing in the holy spirit be with all of you.

    No man knows when the apocalypse will happen

    not even angels, only the Father,

    however the Watchtower sneakily inserted the words NOR THE SON

    in this verse which is not in the older Greek manuscripts.

    Matt 24:36;KJV But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

    Matt24;36;NWT Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father. Nevada

  • TD
    TD

    Not to defend the NWT, but specifically, what NT's were being compared?

    NT translations can be categorized based upon what Greek manuscript they were translated from. (e.g. Nestle Aland, Wescott & Hort, Textus Receptus, etc.)

    I believe if you check the NIV, (Which is strongly evengelical and not by any stretch of the imagination, sympathetic to JW theology) you will find the same verses "Missing" because the NIV and the NWT were both translated from same master text (Wescott & Hort)

  • aniron
    aniron

    NIV

    The Greek text used in translating the New Testament was an eclectic one. No other piece of ancient literature has such an abundance of manuscript witnesses as does the New Testament. Where existing manuscripts differ, the translators made their choice of readings according to accepted principles of New Testaments textual criticism. Footnotes call attention to places where there was uncertainty about what the original text was. The best current printed texts of the Greek New Testaments were used.

    To help others understand the NIV's passion for accuracy, Kenneth L. Barker explains the translation of 150 Scripture passages in the NIV. From the creation account in Genesis 1:1, the prophesied birth of Isaiah 7:14 or the fourth person of Daniel 3:25, to head covering in 1 Corinthians 11:4-7, the Great Commission in Matthew 28:19-20 or the tree of life in Revelation 22:19, the author carefully answers translations questions.

    http://www.ibs.org/niv/accuracy/NIV_AccuracyDefined.pdf

  • lovelylil
    lovelylil

    Thank you guys for your hard work in posting all of those scriptures. They clearly show that the NWT translators were not honest at all and that the NWT is a very biased bible used for the purpose of backing up the wierd WT theology.

    I like the NIV but we have to understand with any translation that there is some bias involved and like someone pointed out - it depends on the text the translation was taken from.

    Most people don't like the KJV as it is hard to understand. I actually like it because it is very poetic.

    Also, the NWT is made to hide the true identity and function of Christ as our only savior - and this IS Jehovah's arrangement. Lilly

  • AK - Jeff
    AK - Jeff

    I think TD may have a point [though I am not educated enough in this particular area to comment extensively on that point].

    Could it be they selected the W&H manuscript because it would allow them to fit their theology into the NWT better? Of that I have no idea.

    I do believe that the account at John 8:1-11 [considered to be non-canonical by witnesses I think], which appears in the NWT - but is demonized by the WTS before one can read it - is a serious omission - the account could go far to soften the Jw attitudes toward 'sinners' and our view of them.

    That reads;

    Manuscripts ?BSy s omit verses 53 to chapter 8, verse 11, which read (with some variations in the various Greek texts and versions) as follows:

    53

    So they went each one to his home.

    8

    But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives. 2 At daybreak, however, he again presented himself at the temple, and all the people began coming to him, and he sat down and began to teach them. 3 Now the scribes and the Pharisees brought a woman caught at adultery, and, after standing her in their midst, 4 they said to him: "Teacher, this woman has been caught in the act of committing adultery. 5 In the Law Moses prescribed for us to stone such sort of women. What, really, do you say?" 6 Of course, they were saying this to put him to the test, in order to have something with which to accuse him. But Jesus bent down and began to write with his finger in the ground. 7 When they persisted in asking him, he straightened up and said to them: "Let the one of YOU that is sinless be the first to throw a stone at her." 8 And bending over again he kept on writing in the ground. 9 But those who heard this began going out, one by one, starting with the older men, and he was left alone, and the woman that was in their midst. 10 Straightening up, Jesus said to her: "Woman, where are they? Did no one condemn you?" 11 She said: "No one, sir." Jesus said: "Neither do I condemn you. Go your way; from now on practice sin no more."

    Jeff

  • acadian
    acadian

    It's a book written by men, not that there isn't truth in it, but it's a book. You will find truth in it, but you can find truth in many other books also. Compare all the differant tranlations and you'll see the differances, the WTS is not the only ones who have corrupted the bible. Their just one of many who have. You don't need the bible to know truth...and your probably better off if you seek truth without the bible. Just read any post on this board about the bible or bible subjects and see the confusion/discord on any topic. There would probably be less confusion if all the books of the bible were missing... Acadian

  • gumby
    gumby

    Jesus claimed to be THE I AM (The Eternal God) but the Watchtower said He claimed to be the I have been.

    John 8:58: KJV: Jesus said unto them, ?Verily,verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.?

    John 8:58: NWT: Jesus said to them: ?Most truly I say to you, Before Abraham came into existence I have been.?
    Below is a comment from AlanF on a thread I started long ago on this very subject. This is an ancient and very common claim, but it is easy to see
    why it is completely nonsensical. First note the exchange between Jesus and
    the Jews. He implied that he saw Abraham, which would make him older than
    Abraham. John 8:57 has the Jews exclaiming, "You are not yet fifty years old,
    and you have seen Abraham!" In effect they said, "You can't possibly be that old!"
    Jesus answered by telling them that he was indeed that old:

    From the New Living Translation:
    "Jesus answered, `The truth is, I existed before Abraham was even born!' "

    From the Worldwide English New Testament:
    "Jesus answered, `I tell you the truth. I already was before Abraham was born.' "

    There are a number of other decent Bible translations that render the passage
    similarly. Why do they render it this way, and not as the NIV, KJV and many
    others do? First note that the latter have adopted the spurious ancient claim
    that the simple statement "I am" refers back to an ancient formula given in
    Exodus 3:14. This claim is merely an assumption and cannot be proved; indeed,
    there is good evidence that there is no connection.

    First, Exodus 3:14 can be translated in ways other than "I am", and plenty of
    good translations do so. I don't have online access to enough translations to
    show this, so you can look them up for yourself. The general idea is that
    "I will be what I will be" is a perfectly reasonable rendering.

    Second, the Jews in essence asked Jesus how old he was, and he answered
    in kind: "I'm really, really old." Why would he answer such a question with
    a recitation of an ancient formula? Look at the following sequence and tell
    me which makes more sense:

    Jews: How old are you?
    Jesus: Before Abraham was born I am.

    OR:

    Jews: How old are you?
    Jesus: Before Abraham was born I was.

    OR:

    Jews: How old are you?
    Jesus: Before Abraham was born I existed.

    It is obvious which of these is nonsensical, when context is taken
    into account.

    The Greek phrase for "I am" is ego eimi. Here eimi is in the
    present tense. However, in Greek, as in many languages such as French, a
    present tense is often used as a past tense. For example, a French speaker
    might want to say:

    "I went there ten years ago."

    He would say:

    "Je suis alle la il y a dix ans."

    Literally:

    "I am gone there it there has ten years."

    The word for "am" is "suis" and is in the present tense. But by standard
    usage, the past tense is almost always rendered by two constructions that
    are something like "I am gone" or "I have gone" in English.

    Because the Greek word for "to be" and "to exist" is eimi, and the
    past tense is sometimes rendered by a present tense, the phrase ego eimi
    can properly be rendered as "I am" or "I was" or "I exist" or "I existed".
    Context tells the reader which is meant.

    In the NT there are many examples where an apparently present tense really is
    the past tense by this usage, including phrases like "ego eimi", if I remember
    right. So claims that the present tense is required for ego eimi
    in John 8:58 are spurious. At best the argument remains unresolved.

    All of the passages you cite have been disputed by scholars. They remain
    ambiguous and what appears in a given translation is the opinion of
    the translators.

    Gumby

  • hamsterbait
    hamsterbait

    Peake's Commentary on the Bible uses the text of the Revised Version. It is a non-JW textbook for students of Divinity intended for those studying the languages and history of the Bible.It says:

    On Mark 16: 9 - 20:

    "These verses constitute the longer of two alternative endings found in some MSS. In an Armenian text of 986 the longer ending is attributed to Aristion the Presbyter,who was among the authorities of Papias, at the beginning of the second century. It is a summary, based on the gospels and Acts; v9 refers to John 20; 12 rests on Luke 24; 17f. on Acts 2:28. In style and vocabulary it is distinct from the rest of the gospel. To this longer ending should be added (in 14) the passage recently discovered in Codex W, the Detroit MS of the gospels. It is included in Moffat's translation of the NT. Moffatt also prints the shorter alternative ending referred to in RVm. It runs thus: " But they gave Peter and his companions a brief account of all that had been enjoined. And after that Jesus Himself sent out by means of them from east to west the sacred and imperishable message of eternal salvation." p. 699

    On John 7: 53 - 8: 11:

    "The well - known story of the woman teken in adultery has no claim to be regarded as part of the original text of this gospel. It breaks the close connexion between 7 and 8:12ff., and in style and vocabulary it is clearly Synoptic rather than Johannine. Of early greek MSS the Cambridge MS (D) alone contains it, and in a text that differs considerably from that of thelater greek MSS from which it passed into the Received Text. of early versions the Latin alone contains it, and it was absent from some forms even of the Latin. It is supported by no early Patristic evidence. The evidence proves it to be an interpolation of a "Western" character. It is found in various places, after 7:36 in the greek MS, after 7:44 in the Georgian version, at the end of the gospel in other MSS. In one importent group of Greek cursives it is found attached to Luke 21:37.

    Eusebius tells us that Papias recorded a similar story "of a woman accused before the Lord of many sins" which is found in the Gospel according to the Hebrews. This suggests as the most probable explanation of its association with the fourth gospel that the story, which bears every mark of preserving a true tradition, found a place in Papias' "Expositions of the Dominical Logia," as illustrating th Lord's saying (8:15) "I judge no man."

    The evidence of Codex D and other textual phenomena suggest perhaps that it existed in more than one Greek translation. If so the original was not in Latin, as the Latin texts show clear traces of translation from the greek. Its insertion in certain MSS in Luke i sdue to the similarity between 8:1f. and Luke 21:37ff.". p 765.

    Concerning most of the omissions mentioned in the thread, such as "this sort can only come out by prayer", or concerning the flame and worms of Gehenna - many of these verses are found in the other gospels in the NWT, if the WTBTS had a sinister motive for excluding them, beyond the fact they are not found in most of the earliest manuscripts, surely they would have removed the same phrases from the other gospels where they are found also?

    HB

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