can't wait to hear all of the miserable whining on facebook...too early, the bed in my hotel room is so uncomfortable, just filled up the car $$$....ouch!
will be reading from the boat, sitting on the ocean, having a true appreciation of my many blessings.
ahhhhhh... poor schmucks!.
Sorry for being a bit off-topic here, but don't want to start another thread just for this:
Could someone tell me in which WT are the local convention dates listed? I'd like to remember the poor fellows from my old congo who are still stuck inside, while I'm having a relaxing weekend.
many years ago before assembly halls we used to hire large halls for circuit assemblies.
the public talk, always after lunch on the sunday was always the big (though boring) event.
the chairman sat on the stage all the time whilst the speaker for the hour long talk droned on.
Once because of some interference we listened to the public speech accompanied by Vivaldi's Seasons in the background. That was entertaining It would have been really funny if it was some death metal.
9:30 song no.
10:50 song no.
12:10 song no.
So should young ones follow the GB's word or example on how to be "discreet"? The discreet slave is anything but, so follow their words, not their actions?
Too bad they moved the conventions to an other city, maybe I would have dropped in that Saturday afternoon symposium too - if I really had nothing else to do.
on the news the other day they showed a young man after graduating from high school went out and got drunk and had a bad car accident.
he was paralyze from the waist down.
instead of going into deep depression of what he did to himself he started his life over and went to college and was involved in inventing a exoskeleton for disable people.
Of course the world would be better if everyone was a JW. It'd be boring, but better.
Maybe in your little world! It would be another dictatorship....How could that be better??
The Borg members also "think" (for a lack of a better word) that their world is better: no borgian hurts its peers, there are no wars (assuming everyone is assimilated), everyone is well fed, noone is unhappy (noone is happy either, but you can't have it all). Yep, by some definitions maybe it's better - except no sane minded person would want to live there.
as you know, i'm embroiled in a family and internet debate/dialogue w/jws the last few days.
and you all have been helping get great points in.
the text that i'm about to post come from a jw apologist who has acknowledge some of my comments about jws being a cult and that no tolerance for questioning them is one of the signs of a cult.
are they going change their interpretation of something because John in Brooklyn questioned it and had a strong argument?
Strawman - it's not about JWs not changing their dogma to fit your belief, but you being DFd, losing all your friends and family because you questioned it. Of course some cults also do that and even worse, but the majority of the esatblished religions will not kick you out because you disagree. Even if you do leave because your world view is just too different from theirs, you will still have no repercussions because of your choice.
The correct approach was formulated by a protestant theologist:
"In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus caritas" - "in necessary things unity; in uncertain things freedom; in everything compassion".
To JWs there are hundreds, if not thousands of "necessary things", and there are virtually no "uncertain things" - the so called conscience matters are usually a joke, and they are either a way of more control (just TRY and do what your conscience tells you, and you'll see...), or they really don't matter. If dogma changes every couple of years, then by all means it fits under "uncertain things", and there should be freedom in believing it or not. The necessary things are the ones that are rock solid, and never be subject to new light (examples: the existence of God, Jesus as His Son, and the saviour of mankind, etc.)
it's funny how when you are able to take a step back an look at the big picture...you start to notice things that are just a bit wierd.. for instance...at the meeting the other night, we all sang song number 58 (notice the first verse).
then look at the songs in the rest of the songbook...and you will see that verses of this nature are in pretty much every other song.
keep singing these over and over at the kh and you begin to memorize them and eventually find yourself singing or humming them later without realizing it.
"Take my money and may it be
Sent post haste to the WT"
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thousands of witnesses carried by car or mostly busses joined the great worship of the gb, oh sorry jehovah.. here is a short summary of the talk given by losch: (my thoughts in brackets).
1) the beginning was mostly about closing branches, kingdom halls etc, but all a proof of gods spirit of course.. then some experiences, you find in a yearbook type as well,.
2) obey the slave, even if you dont fully understand, he compared it with a child trusting their parents (quit condescending, sheeple are like dumb children, mama org will think for them).
When I visited the local branch, the "brother" who showed us around showed us a big panel with the country, with green LEDs showing current KHs, and red LEDs showing KHs being built. He told us that there are KHs being open all the time - and as long as Jehovah guides us, there will never be any KH closed. I hope that sentence has stuck with him, and remembers it as he has to take out a few of the green LEDs from the map.
special blue envelopes.
watchtower has elders communicate judicial matters in writing to its headquarters (or designated branch office).
elders are instructed to send this written communication in what watchtower terms special blue envelopes.
Thanks Marvin. Are those lines in bottom right a barcode of sorts? Did anyone try to forge a DF letter to the HQ? We have all the necessary forms/details. Sounds fun...
in fact russell never was a jehovahs witness.. in the proclaimers book, page 40 they write:.
stirrings of watchfulness.
in the 19th century, though, the religious climate led to stirrings of.
I don't think there's need for that. They're doing a very good job obscuring Russel's teachings right now. The average JW knows he had some "misconceptions", but they file those under the "light was not so bright", and all is ok. It will never occur to them that many other christian groups were closer to the present dogma of the JWs than Russel was, so based on the teachings, the russelites would have to be pretty low on imaginary scale of Jesus judging the religions in 1914-1919. Since this idea requires some actual critical thinking, there is no need to distantiate themselves from Russel - after all he was hailed for too long as the person who finally started on the right path, they can't just drop him now.
this is an in-depth look at the new dvd released this fall.
it is primarily designed for young jehovah?s witnesses; in fact, the whole dvd is geared towards witness youth only.. .
on the front cover there are 8 happy youths carrying school books and bags.
Snowboarder, you might try to scratch it, to make it unplayable. Do it in circular motion, not across the DVD, because the error correcting can recover the lost bits that way; but if you rotate the DVD while pressing a nail to it, it's certain to completely ruin it. Your parents will not necessarily suspect you, like in the case of throwing the DVD out.
I hope people don't think here that I'm a corruptor of youth, teaching how to misbehave; this cult is evil, and sometimes you have to do things that are not very nice.
