there are many "proof" texts that people (including jws) use to justify their rejection of anyone that is gay.
there are a few scriptures that you can pull up and try to make a case for show homosexuals why they are evil and wrong.. i've been researching more of these scriptures and i'm coming to some very different conclusions than many other christians hold, especially jws.
i wanted to talk about the first text used by many people to condemn homosexual behaviour.
Tammy,
If you go "strictly by the account" -- it was written by men. Now I'm not saying anything generically about a gender, just casting a comparison to modern days with JWs, with Catholics, etc., in which case men in power were protected and lies were told, in order to point out that the over arching attitude at the time was used to write the account. I very much doubt if the women had written it, the account would have read the same.
Ada
i was browsing some of the businesses and schools that already closed since the big blizzard is going to hit tomorrow.. one thing caught my eye : .
jehovah lutheran school.
chicago.
Way back in the early 80s when I was in Eastern Washington state I got a new manager at the bank I worked at. After she found out I was a witness she made sure to give me a ride to a meeting one day (bank meeting) and had a religious tape on that used the name over and over. She told me that she knew the JWs said they were the only ones and she wanted me to know that it was a lie. I think you hear it more and more lately.
it was thrilling to participate in the world wide protest, jan, 21-23 2011 exposing the watchtower organization for their policies on deliberately breaking up up families.
we thank all those involved this past weekend for their passion and commitment to help free those trapped in falsehood.
i am aware that many on this forum do not believe in protesting against the watchtower society,and i respect their position.
What turns me off is not the attempt to get people out of the WTS. Go for it. My turn off on the whole thing is the, get out of that high control religion and come join ours.
Woman to person waiting for the bus: "Have you found Jesus?"
Person to woman: "Have you people lost him AGAIN?"
i've seen several posts relating to the mood among longtime jws here recently.
i thought i would add to that collection and recount a discussion i recently had with my dad and a small group of folks about his age.
quick background on the group:.
At least they'll be able to collect social security if nothing else.
Not necessarily. There's a bill up right now that takes it away from anyone not already 55. I swallowed the no education kool-aid and may not even have social security. I'm 54. Pretty scary for the likes of us.
Who knows, they may prove the existance of elves and dwarves next!
LOTR!
Steelers 21-10.
GO STEELERS!
Well that was a couple minutes I won't ever get back. Bleh. Sanctimonious POS.
Deputy, I wasn't trying to judge, thats how I read what you wrote, it sounds like your experience, hence the reply:
My point is sex like religion can be as machanical or as much work as anything and may not leave someone happy or satisfied.
Deputy Dog I am SO sorry you have never experienced spiritual sex. Sex isn't spiritual every single time. Lots of times it isn't. But when it is its unforgetable. And I can only say if your sex life is mechanical, well I'm just sorry. Thats just wrong.
cant say how,but i am in possession of about 10 years worth of elders meetings notes.financial info,personal lists,signed letters etc.disfellowshipping meeting minutes,the works.it is unbelieveable.some of the note are "investigate so and so,she was seen at a movie,talk to sister so and so about her weight,investigate the matter between so and so and so and so etc.
letters from circuit servant visits w/recommendatons.anyone got any ideas?there are even minutes of a meeting in which some of the elders "had words"...all in glorious initialed and signed paper.numbers,names,contributions..what should i do with this "blessing from hohoba?
"lol.
Why don't you contact Barbara Anderson and get some advice. Or give them to Barbara and let her handle it, she can use the notes as evidence of ((well I'm having a mind fart, don't remember the legal term.. whenyou are trying to establish they way someone conducts business regularly as opposed to a one-time thing)). There are on-going lawsuits all over that this could be a god-send to, as long as the discovery was legal.
Ada
