How many JWs kids are told: "you can be anything you want when you grow up!"?
Wow, that is something when you think about it.
miseryloveselders
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Special Assembly: CO admits the grip is tightning.....
by yourmomma inwhat im about to post is the exact words from the co during the last talk of the most recent special assembly day.
even though im out i still try to keep up with what is being said just cause i find it interesting, and alot of stuff i find funny, but this stuff is starting to get scary, and i fear for my friends who are still in.
here are the exact words:.
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Song: 'The Bible--A Priceless Treasure', then concluding prayer
by sd-7 inbrings faithful slaves and popes to humankind.. its meaning's subject to interpretations.
that can at times truly screw with your mind.. this often-misused book is called the bible--.
'twas written long ago and then compiled.
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miseryloveselders
May you help these single young men to, should they engage in some limited recreation at their hotel's swimming pools, wear modest swim attire while at the hotels so as not to attract any worldly visiting, cougar-like women who might seek to "get their groove back" by violating our chaste young men.
Ohh, what I wouldn't give for a cougar right about now. Preferably in her late thirties to mid forties, a supervisor in a fortune 500 company, with a preference for black or charcoal gray business suits and the attitude of despot. Kind of like the short haired girl from that show "V". SD, you need to cut this stuff out bruh!!!!!!
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Stumbled across a recurring theme in WT: teach 'the organization' to your kids
by sd-7 inyesterday afternoon, right before i was about to take my wife to the kingdom hall (no, i'm not attending, haven't been in 9 months, strangely enough am still thinking of returning if it would help my marriage, but it won't), i happened to notice her opened october 15th, 2010 watchtower.
around page 25 or so, there was an article that caught my eye.
it instructed parents to teach their children to 'not act independently of the organization, even in small matters'.
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miseryloveselders
So this the Mormon's Family Worship Night that the WT is copying? All I can say is wow. Looking at those images left me with a feeling I can't quite describe. It's not exactly disappointment, or shock, but its somewhere in between or both, I don't know. Wow, SMH. All these religions are the same. Buncha vultures and blood suckers.
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Fred and Kate Gholson video
by Dogpatch innew video that duane magnani sent me from the old 1980s ex-jws for jesus conventions in pa. they aren't all christian pudding so even you cynics will like it, and kate was a doll and funny!.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibcwktmww2w.
they tell the story about elder harassment, long hair, crazy stuff.
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miseryloveselders
How many folks would show up for these Ex-JW For Jesus Conventions?
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An experience I had that reminds me of some Witnesses mindset
by sabastious inabout 10 years ago i was hanging out with this guy.
for about 6 months we were attached at the hip, we both had our first cars and wanted to explore our area like no others.
he said "i don't want to check it because i know the first time i check it i am going to find out i don't have any money left.".
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miseryloveselders
Good illustration Sab. Very fitting. It's amazing what fear can cause people to avoid. With this religion, its a combination of fear and inconvenience. Fear that everything you've been raised to believe was all bull crap. I guess pride would play a role too. One would have to be humble to admit their thinking was off. Heck, I don't like being wrong! Inconvenience plays a role in the sense that many JWs just readily except being spoon fed nonsense, and are too lazy and incapable of logical criticism of what they're being fed. It demonstrates a lack of personal responsibility as was the case with your friend and the MAC machine. They're too scared to find out the truth, and too inconvenienced to take the steps to correct their thinking, or at least to see the other point of view.
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Music Fans!! Once again I Ask, What's Your Top 10 Favorite Albums?
by flipper inhello gang!
didn't think i'd let you off easy did you?
this one might really make us dig into our personal archives!
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miseryloveselders
Gary Numan - Pleasure Principle - all time favorite album, completely cohesive without being entirely repetitive
I forgot about this album! Very dope album, he was way ahead of his time. I never realized how many rappers had sampled his stuff either. I always thought he was a one hit wonder with "Cars", but his discography is pretty stellar with Pleasure Principle being thee must have.
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Stumbled across a recurring theme in WT: teach 'the organization' to your kids
by sd-7 inyesterday afternoon, right before i was about to take my wife to the kingdom hall (no, i'm not attending, haven't been in 9 months, strangely enough am still thinking of returning if it would help my marriage, but it won't), i happened to notice her opened october 15th, 2010 watchtower.
around page 25 or so, there was an article that caught my eye.
it instructed parents to teach their children to 'not act independently of the organization, even in small matters'.
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miseryloveselders
To some degree, this organization has become self idolatrous. When I was in middle school, having a Michael Jordan tee shirt, or Magic Johnson was all the rage. My folks copped me a Jordan shirt, Magic shirt, and a Larry Bird shirt!! Eventually I had to stop wearing these because it was viewed negatively by other JWs, and by the WT. This was all due to the WT warning against having infactuations with celebrities, actors, sports stars, etc.. The WT literature has even warned JWs about having posters of sports heroes in their kids rooms. We're now witnessing the organization leadership lose absolute control over their publishers, and in an attempt to regain or maintain control, they're encouraging worship of themselves as an organization and worship of the actions that make this organization unique as the latest thread on meetings indicates. If meetings are part of our worship, and we prepare for and participate in a meeting where the subject being discussed and expounded upon is the meeting, then it goes without saying that we're worshipping the meeting.
The fact that they're encouraging children to worship the organization says something about whats happening to their young people. Both the PEW Study, and our own experiences growing up, tell us that most young people end up leaving this religion at one point or another. Even most of those that come back, don't do it sincerely, but rather to appease their relatives and loved ones. The WT is failing when it comes to born-ins. A future with this organization being the centerpiece of one's life, is not very appealing to many teenagers, or young adults. When they trample on all the natural aspirations young people have, and then replace those with WT goals of pioneering, serving at Bethel, or holding their breath waiting on the end of this system of things like their parents, and grandparents have done, something has got to give. We're seeing it happen now. I find it both laughable, and scary that they're encouraging costume parties with kids dressing up like the Bible Students of almost a century ago. It was creepy enough that JWs were doing costume parties of bible characters, which is borderline idolatry by the WT's own standerds. Now they're encouraging kids to dress up like Rutherford and his cronies. I wonder if they'll encourage underage drinking too since Rutherford was a boozer. I mean its all part of inculcating what it meant and what it means to be a JW right? And alcohol is definately part of being a JW.
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 12-26-10 WT Study (MEETINGS)
by blondie in3. how important are christian meetings?.
when more give comments,.
in making christian meetings upbuilding.*.
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miseryloveselders
Thanks Blondie. Ya know, yesterday's WT study was more annoying than usual. We have to be the only religion that has congregation meetings about.........get this.........we have meetings about.......meetings. Yesterday's WT Study was about the WT Study. As JWs, we worship our own repatative traditions almost as much as we worship the Faithful & Discreet Slave. None of this stuff is encouraging anymore, and the fact that they scheduled this article for study purposes, tells me there must be a ton of JWs who don't value these endless meetings. Many just go through the motions. I used to prepare for the WT Study the night before. When you'd see my WT magazine, it would be underlined, with various notes, and paraphrases of unquoted scriptures. After realizing how pointless it all is, I had to stop wasting my time. Now I just take a highlighter and mark the middle of every paragraph. It takes about three minutes to do right before I head out the door to the meeting.
The paragraph stating the purpose of the WT magazine reminded me of The Matrix when Neo was aware, and threatening the establishment. The WT fears the thought of people waking up to the fact that they don't need the WT. It terrifies them. Here's Neo's quote,
"I know you're out there. I can feel you now. I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin. I'm going to hang up this phone, and then I'm going to show these people what you don't want them to see. I'm going to show them a world without you. A world without rules and controls, without borders or boundaries. A world where anything is possible. Where we go from there is a choice I leave to you."
Something else this lesson and previous lessons before have left me questioning, what exactly is worship? As the WT defines it, it is commenting at meetings using their literature, attending meetings about their literature, praying that Jehovah assists you in commenting at the meeting using their literature. I'm under the impression we're worshiping the literature, the meetings, and the Slave Class more than Jehovah at times. We attend the meetings, we have meetings about the meetings, we even sing about the meetings!!!! Its really becoming all so very silly anymore. Its a waste of time anymore. One of the arguments the WT uses to support the Memorial celebration as something to be done annually as opposed to weekly as the churches do, is that if we were to celebrate it every week, it would lose importance to us. It would become repetative, no longer anything special. That and the Passover was done on one day a year. That same criteria can be applied to the meetings. I've been going to these meetings for thirty years, and quite frankly I'm sick of going. If this WT is any indication, apparantly plenty of other JWs are sick of the meetings too. Two or three meetings a week, on top of preperation for the meetings, and throwing field service into the mix. Not to mention if you have kids to get ready. It's too much, and its not something to look forward to as special any longer. At times I wish Armageddon would come to put an end to these meetings. This "system of things" is more tolerable than this organization's repititious works any more.
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Were you given a good beating when you was a JW kid growing up in TRUTH
by Hairyhegoat inmy dad used to use the kettle flex on me and my 2 other brothers, and if he was a bit drunk he would just come up to our room and thump us all in our beds!!
my mom could be heard crying alot when we were growing up in the happy jw religion.
me dad was a lover of the rod as he got a good kicking when he was a kid from his dad!!
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miseryloveselders
I had my fair share of whoopins, I remember one time my dad grabbed me by the ankle and the floor was where the ceiling was supposed to be, and the ceiling was where the floor was supposed to be. I was always getting yelled at both in front of people, and at home. Beatings with the belt, or his hands, slapped to the floor, emotionally ripped apart, self esteem in the gutter, etc.. It was rough at times. One thing nowadays that him and I both laugh at, is the last whoopin he intended to give me. He went to do his damage, and I just looked at him. I wasn't crying or screaming for him to stop. I simply looked at him and went, "It doesn't hurt man." At that point he realized he'd have to adjust his punishing methods. I was starting to come into my own physically. It's strange because he's close to me now, he's like my best friend. But its been difficult putting some of his tactics behind me. I have a little resentment.
I don't 100% blame him, because his upbringing was messed up. I'm sympathetic towards blacks from "those days." They went through some things that I could never imagine. I've never met my grandfather, but from what I've heard about him, he was nuts and abusive. A combination of that and my dad's military background gave birth to a tough disciplinarian. He was really hard on me some days. When I was in middle school, I walked to a bridge one day, and strongly considered jumping. Looking back the only thing that stopped me from jumping was knowing that somebody else jumped off the same bridge and survived and as a result is mentally and physically disabled. I'm glad I didn't jump. Too many good times I've had both during my childhood and now. Its strange how when we're going through rough times, it seems like forever. However, when we get past that, it seems like such a brief time. I wonder at times, if I have children, will I whoop them? I don't know. Not to turn this into something racial, but black folks whip their kids. I don't know if its always a good thing or a bad thing. Its hard to tell at times. Youth today lack discipline, but how much is warrented and how its administered is debateable.
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Music Fans!! Once again I Ask, What's Your Top 10 Favorite Albums?
by flipper inhello gang!
didn't think i'd let you off easy did you?
this one might really make us dig into our personal archives!
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miseryloveselders
This is kinda difficult. Flipper forgive me, but I have to do my top ten hip hop, and top ten rock/punk albums.
Rock/Punk in no particular order, and in some cases I have to put two albums from certain artists cuz you can't have one album over the other at times. It's a toss up depending on my mood, and the seasons.
1. Led Zeppelin I, and Led Zeppelin II
2. The Clash-self titled, and London Calling
3. Bad Brains-Black Dots
4. G.B.H.-City Baby Attacked by Rats, and City Baby's Revenge
5. Discharge-Decontrol: The Singles
6. Misfits- Walk Among Us, and Static Age
7. Queens of the Stone Age-Rated R, Songs for the Deaf, and Self Titled
8. Radiohead's Kid A, Amnesiac, Ok Computer, and Hail To the Thief
9. Interpol-Turn On the Bright Lights, and Antics.
10. TV On the Radio-Return To Cookie Mountain
Honorable mentions, Rage Against the Machine's Evil Empire, Joy Division's Closer, Echo & the Bunnymen's Heaven Up Here, The Cure's Pornography, Pink Floyd's The Wall, and Dark Side of the Moon. There's too many other's that should be mentioned on any given day. Wall Of Voodoo's Call of the West, Gang of Four's Entertainment!, The Exploited's Troops of Tommorrow, Soundgarden's SuperUnknown, jeez there's too many. Talking Head's Remain In Light and Speaking In Tongues.
Hip-Hop
1. Smif N Wessun's Dah Shinin
2. Mobb Deep's Hell On Earth
3. Cypress Hill's Temples of Boom
4. Kanye West's Late Registration
5. Ice Cube's AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted, and Death Certificate
6. Public Enemy's It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back
7. D.O.C.'s No One Can Do It Better
8. Nas-Illmatic, It Was Written, Stillmatic, Untitled
9. Wu-Tang Clan's Enter the 36 Chambers, and Wu-Tang Forever
10. Ghostface Killah's Supreme Clientele
Honorable mentions include NWA's Straight Outta Compton, Notorious B.I.G.'s Ready To Die, Clipse's Hell Have No Fury, Re-Up Gang's We Got It 4 Cheap vol.2, Showbiz & AG's Goodfellas, Compton's Most Wanted's Music to Driveby, jeez too many to list.