Somebody needs to demand something out of BP LOL. WTF?!?!? So if Obama stays in DC and says, "we're monitoring the situation", he's not doing enough? And he looks weak. But if he gets too aggressive and says, "BP needs to do more!", now he's starting to look like a Russian from the 70s. I swear the man is damned in people's eye's regardless of what decision he makes. Something I got a kick out of, my father said. The conservatives in that area show how simple minded they are when situations like these arise. They hate big goverment and want big goverment out of their lives, yet when something like this happens, they start begging for the goverment to do more for them. My pop being an ol' school militant minded African American put it, "they're begging for assistance from a Nigga representing Big Goverment. Ya gotta love it!"
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Is Obama behaving like a Dictator?
by Cagefighter inhow does obama demand 20 million out of bp with out a lawsuit or civil agreement?.
can obama call me and demand 20 million?.
who's next?.
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5 minutes or less until Snowbird posts. We taking bets?
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What difference does it make if we are born in?
by wanderlustguy inborn in, what difference does it make?.
i was thinking about this one a lot over the last few weeks.
what difference does it make whether you were born into a cult or were brought in as a teen or adult?
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This thread would make an excellant documentary. It's so bizarre the experiences one has from being born-in. Good post Wanderlustguy, and everybody elses too.
St.Ann, I know that feeling all too well. I've often told people I'm close to that I don't fear death. I fear how I might die, because I don't want to get eaten by some animal, or drown, or what's been embedded into my head since my birth........... death at Armageddon, being tossed into the Lake of Fire. At the same time however, I loathe my upbringing in this religion so much anymore that I welcome to some degree the day I stop breathing. Death is almost like a release from this spiritual paradise prison. Granted I've got plenty of good memories too. And to be fair, life could have been worse. I could have been born in Somalia, or a Palastenian. I could have been paralyzed or have Sickle Cell Anemia. There's a ton of messed up things that could have happened to me. That's not to downplay the damage this org has had on people either, don't get me wrong. I'm just trying to look at the glass being half full the best I can. Some days are better than others. Wow this thread is depressing. It's raining where I'm at too. Ughgh......
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Library Visit # 2: 607 BCE vs. 587 BCE - With Pictures!
by mentallyfree31 inapproximately five weeks ago, i visited the local library and searched every book i could find that discusses the destruction of jerusalem in ancient times.
if you didn't see that thread, you can find it here: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/192813/1/607-b-c-e-a-trip-to-the-local-library-with-pictures.
the results were conclusive: all secular sources agree that jerusalem was destroyed in 587/586 bce.
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Judging by the new Jeremiah book, they don't have any intention of dropping 607 either. Page 28 of the new "God's Word For Us Through Jeremiah" book on page 28, has the question, "Describe the events of 607 B.C.E.." Doing a search through the PDF copy, there are 9 mentions of "607 BCE". The black helicoptor/men in white coats conspiracy side of me wants to believe there's an apostate on the Writing Department who purposely did this to subtlely encourage people to research and ask questions. The cynical born in JW side of me believes this book is just more regurgitation of previous articles with a shiny new cover, and that the 607 vs 586 was never even given a thought when preparing this publication.
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Going through my old "Shoegazer" albums....
by lepermessiah ini heard "vapour trail" by ride the other day on the radio and it got me listening to some of the "shoegazer" classics of the early 1990's!.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvhni5cu8mo.
of course, loveless by my bloody valentine had to come out also!.
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I've never listened to Ride before. I'm at work, so I'll have to check it out at lunchtime or later tonight. I like some stuff that can be considered Shoegazer I guess. Like Echo & the Bunnymen, Interpol, early Black Rebel Motorcycle Club albums, The Cure, etc.. A band I really liked was The Sound. They had potential. Lead singer committed suicide via train. Tragic because he was just as talented if not more than U2. Just rambling, but it seems like the really talented ones die too soon. Ian Curtis from Joy Division was another one who died way too soon.
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Lakers or Celtics?
by minimus init's tied, 1 to 1. i'm with the green team over lala boys.
my prediction it'll be celtics in best out of 7..
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Alltime Jeff everytime I talk to you I swear I see Steven Colbert in my head. When I read your posts I hear his voice.
I swear I thought I was the only one this was happening to. Jeff, when I read your long posts, as brilliant as they are, it has a subtle comical effect because of Steven Colbert being your avy.
I feel good tonight. I picked LA in 6, but it looks like its going to be LA in 7.
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Your "Authentic Self"
by pirata inas i was reading a book "living the 80/20 way: work less, worry less, succeed more, enjoy more".
this section really jumped out at me:.
we're not blank slates.
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I believe it boils down to be institutionalized. Anybody remember the Suicidal Tendencies song from way back when? Had the spoken word lyrics at the end..........
I'm sitting in my room, when my mom and my dad came in. they pulled up a chair and they sat down. They go “mike, we need to talk to you.” And I go “ok, what's the matter?” They go “me and your mom, we've noticed that lately you've been having a lot of problems, and you've been going off for no reason, and we're afraid you're going to hurt somebody, and we're afraid you're going to hurt yourself. So we decided that it would be in your best interest if we put you somewhere where you could get the help that you need.” And I go “wait, what are you talking about, WE decided? MY best interests? How do you know what MY best interest is? How can you say what MY best interest is? What are you trying to say? I'M crazy? When I went to YOUR schools, I went to YOUR churches, I went to YOUR institutional learning facilities? So how can you say I'M crazy?”
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Bible-Believing Christians Who Don't Murder Disobedient or Alcoholic Children Are Practicing Moral Relativism and Turning Against God's Specific Instructions in Deuteronomy
by alice.in.wonderland inmeet giordanobruno:.
bible-believing christians who don't murder disobedient or alcoholic children are practicing moral relativism and turning against god's specific instructions in deuteronomy.deuteronomy 21:18-22: if a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the voice of his father or the voice of his mother, and, though they discipline him, will not listen to them, then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his city at the gate of the place where he lives, and they shall say to the elders of his city, this our son is stubborn and rebellious; he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a drunkard.
then all the men of the city shall stone him to death with stones.
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I have absolutely nothing to contribute to this thread, but just wanted to say that's a heluva thread title. So many syllables, enough to make someone dyslexic go into a coma.
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I think I knew what Adam was going through when he saw animals with mates. Thank God for Vodka and The Who.
by miseryloveselders ini was hurting earlier.
no good sports on tonight.
lonely, single as a 95 yr ol widow, and i'm a young male.
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I was hurting earlier. No good sports on tonight. Lonely, single as a 95 yr ol widow, and I'm a young male. I probably could go find a woman, unfortunately, I don't want a JW girl. I want a worldly gal. I'm in love with my boss who's single. However she doesn't love Jehovah. But ya know what? Thank God for Svedka, and music. I put my mp3 player on shuffle, and got a half glass of Vodka. I feel pretty good tonight despite feeling a tad bit empty tonight. It shuffled from Journey, to The Who, and it sounded so good. At the end I put on Jay Electronica's Exibit C, which might be the epitome of real Hip hop. I'm feeling pretty good right now, and just wanted to say I love each and every one of you. Good night AlltimeJeff, Beks, Cagefighter, Mary, Blondie, Jonathan Dough, Terry, Outlaw, and a ton of others if I forgot you, I apologize. Good night. I love you. You know I saw birds tonight flying together, and I felt so alone. But that's ok. It's quite alright. Good night everybody. You know what tommorrow is? Its the lesson about the generation thing. You gonna be there? You better. Good night, I love you.
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Question for ex-elders
by startingover inis a publisher's record card necessary to df someone?
if a person had one, faded and does not live near nor had any contact with the congregation who holds it, nor any other congregation for 30 years, would you say they are off the radar?.
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Prior to last year's memorial, we had an elder's meeting and the secretary brought out a list of names who were still in our records as belonging to our congregation. We were going to go over this list, to see about reaching out to these ones and inviting them to the memorial. 80% of them we haven't seen in 30 years. Some of them, I've never even heard of as I would have been a child when they stopped attending. Another older elder got cantankerous and belligerent stating in more words or less, "why are going to waste another 1/2 hour going over names of people who haven't set foot in this hall in decades?!?!?!" He was angry, and in rare form. He's been going to elder meetings for far too long. Like other posters said, if you're that far off the radar, don't put yourself back on. I know of one case someone who is disfellowshipped, but been gone so long that many dubs don't know his standing and they speak briefly to him when they see him.