Well you started out ok Zeppelin............. but R&R stated with Elvis .....if you wanted to start in the 60's wellllllll.... Beatles and Stones..
Ahem......Chuck Berry......Ahem!!!
miseryloveselders
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The History and Evolution of Rock and Roll
by alice.in.wonderland ini'll the start with the late 1960's and 1970's because aside from a few songs from the byrds, the doors and pink floyd i don't go back that far.
i'll also skip the eagles.. 1970's: .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9tgj2jrjk8.
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Gentile times reconsidered
by Joey Jo-Jo inhi,.
being that commentarypress has sold out books of gentile times i was wondering if there would be any places or web sites that i buy this in pdf format?.
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miseryloveselders
I ordered mines through Barnes and Nobel. Good book.
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this weeks bookstudy
by scottmedeiros inforget witch paragraph books not with me.
anyway lesson focussed on preaching and one paragraph mentioned matt were jesus sent mary to tell the brothers to go ahead and meet him in galilie.
11 disciples and jesus commishioned them to go therfore and make disciples, u know the rest.
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miseryloveselders
12 Jesus also taught his disciples to avoid unnecessary distractions. He said: “Do not embrace anybody in greeting along the road.” (Luke 10:4) Was Jesus telling them to be cool or aloof? Not at all.In Bible times, greetings often involved much more than a simple hello. Customary greetings included various formalities and lengthy conversation. One Bible scholar states: “Salutations among the Orientals did not consist, as among us, of a slight bow, or extension of the hand, but [were] performed by many embraces, and inclinations, and even prostrations of the body on the ground. All this required much time.” By telling his disciples not to engage in the customary greetings, Jesus was, in a sense, saying: “You must make the most of your time, for the message you bear is urgent.”
That paragraph stood out to me last night. The first thing that came to mind was disfellowshipping, and how we're not to greet or eat meals with those disfellowshipped. If using this paragraph as a reference along with 1 Cor 5:9-12, it changes the meaning of how we're to treat those who are disfellowshipped. It comes off to me that we're not to be completely aloof or cold toward those we have moral differences with, but rather we do limit the amount of time we spend associating with them.
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Do you like Sunsets? why?
by cyberjesus inpeople like to stop and appreciate a sunset.... but what is it they enjoy?
what do you enjoy?
who say its beautiful?.
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miseryloveselders
Me personally I never understood that. I thing that's a female thing. Not that I can't appreciate nature related things too, but I'm not going to make an event out of it. I thought the CG on District 9 and Terminator Salvation was beautiful.
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Cooking opinion
by beksbks inok, i have a huge basket of cherry tomatoes from my garden.
no way will we be able to eat them all, and i have already given some to neighbors.
how does a sauce made from them sound?
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miseryloveselders
I was thinking more along the line of projectiles as opposed to cooking.
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"WE can decide if you will remain an unbaptised publisher or not"
by XPeterX insaid one of the 2 elders to me when i had to talk with them at the 'back room'.
"i will never forget these words.
"we" excludes god right?.
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miseryloveselders
i was announced as no longer an unbaptised publisher when i was 15 because i wouldnt stop listening to rap music. i was treated as a worldly person, but not shunned. it was fucked up though.
Wow. Funny, cuz I still listen to rap music.
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"WE can decide if you will remain an unbaptised publisher or not"
by XPeterX insaid one of the 2 elders to me when i had to talk with them at the 'back room'.
"i will never forget these words.
"we" excludes god right?.
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miseryloveselders
miseryloveselders, I have always known it to be announced...unless something has changed in recent years. I do not currently have access to the Organization book...but it is probably detailed in there.
I was definitely announced as 'no longer an unbapt pub', and heard that announced a few times over the years...less often than dfings though.
Maybe thats why I don't recollect ever hearing it. I've probably heard it, but its so far and few in between that it seems like I've never heard it. I rarely see new unbaptized publishers with the exception of born in children and teenagers. Rarely do I see it with studies.
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"WE can decide if you will remain an unbaptised publisher or not"
by XPeterX insaid one of the 2 elders to me when i had to talk with them at the 'back room'.
"i will never forget these words.
"we" excludes god right?.
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miseryloveselders
Isaac, I'm surprised they announced that. All my years I've never heard it announced from the platform that one was no longer an unbaptized publisher. Dont' get me wrong, I'm not questioning you, but I've never seen that. That's crazy. Or maybe I'm misreading what you said. Is that how it was done 20 something years ago?
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Interesting quote on leadership - what do you think re: the Governing Body?
by sir82 intoday i read a newspaper columnist who wrote something that caught my attention:.
"...obedience is a natural response to effective leadership, and this is true regardless of whether the people being led are adults or children.".
now, think about the gb.. virtually every wt "study edition" contains at least one, if not several, reminders about how we should "obey the gb".. dozens of the songs in the new song book extol how worthy of obedience & devotion the gb is.. each assembly & convention features dozens of reminders on how important it is to be obedient & submissive to the gb.. service meeting parts routinely offer "loving reminders" of how jws should obey the gb re: conventions, literature, donations, etc.. .
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The governing body itself was presented as a harmonious sharing of authority, making the society less dictatorial. And look at them now - just like the Cardinals and Pope of the Roman Catholic Church that they hate so much. I made the mistake of comparing the GB to clergy in other religions to my mom. After she heard what I said, her eyes had a look of befuddlement, and then her voice raised to the point where I asked her, "why are you yelling?" She's like, "I'm not yelling!" I'm sure plenty of people see this trend of worshiping the GB as disturbing. Its evidenced by all the newbies here as of late. I never thought I see the day I'd be singing about the Faithful Slave at the meeting LOL.
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Why Do Witnesses (and others) Continue to Defend So STRONGLY Things That They Can't Absolutely Prove are True or Exist?
by Crisis of Conscience inthis is a little bit of a rant but i need to vent.
so i apologize if some things aren't clear.
just ask and i will do my best to explain.. i'm really trying to be patient with my wife.
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miseryloveselders
I know what you mean COC, its mind boggling. That article, "No One Should Be Made to Choose" was a definately a humdinger. There's a reason why that article was in the Awake for public consumption. Can you imagine if that article would have been a study article for the congregation WT Study? It'd would have planted a lot more apostate seeds than currently exist. It just goes to show how methodical and underhanded the GB and the Writing Department is. It's encouraged to be like the Boreans when it comes to any other religion, primarily other Christian faiths. When it comes to the JW faith, you're not supposed to question anything. They don't give you any room to agree to disagree on anything. And if you do have the studious inclination to dig in deep and develope a logical reason for not toeing the line, the've got the ultimate trump card, your family and close friends. Then they have the audacity to tell the public and even themselves, that this religion doesn't break up families. GTHOH!!
I agree with you about things that cannot be absolutely proven, and having to support these doctrinal theories can be a real struggle at times. I was thinking about this last night coming home from work. I got to thinking how the Israelites witnessed things that one would consider supernatural today. If I saw fire come out of the sky and incinerate some rebellious folks in the camp, I wouldn't question anything from that point onward. One doesn't forget something like that. Or if I saw a sea split to allow myself and people escape and then close over my enemies, I'd be on board, not questioning anything. Yet the Israelites continued to question things and forget what Jehovah had done for them. Either the entire nation suffered with Alzheimer's on steroids, or the Bible isn't telling the whole story. People today have life altering situations, that completely change the way they think and act. Apparently not the Israelites after seeing some crazy things. Fast forward to 2010, and some old kooks in New York are asking me, cough cough, excuse me, telling me that if I don't recognize their book publishing company as God's chosen organization I'm going to be destroyed? If I question their track record, history, and questionable doctrines, I can possibly, well actually, I will lose my family, close friends, and in some cases my livelyhood? This is especially troubling if one has spent decades busting his or hair tail for this organization. Ray Franz put it I believe, with one stroke they completely erased all that he had done for this organization. Its sad, really really sad how much of a powertrip these people are on.