in your neck of the woods?.
here, it's cooling off and the leaves are already turning.. my g'daughter's team lost a volleyball game on monday evening.. serves her right for being such a boastful little blister!.
syl.
Alright, who the hell is Holmes? Doesn't sound very Mexican to me.
Another way of saying homeboy, or homie. I guess it can be spelled holmes, or homes. Around my way and other cities I've been to, I've never heard blacks say it. I've only heard eses say it.
from what i've noticed 'wordly' teens or very young adults won't follow jw's.most teens/young jw's are born in,so boasting about the theocratic youth is actually boasting about jw children lol..
So we all agree that children are allowed and accepted to become baptized ordained ministers in the congregation, right? Anyone have a dispute about that claim?
Then why did the WTS make this claim to the European Human Rights Committee in 1997?
"As regards the alleged involvement of children, the [WatchTower Bible and tract Society] submits that children cannot become members of the association but only participate, together with their parents, in the religious activities of the community. In respect of the refusal of blood transfusion, the applicant association submits that there are no religious sanctions for a Jehovah's Witness who chooses to accept blood transfusion and that, therefore, the fact that the religious doctrine of Jehovah's Witnesses is against blood transfusion cannot amount to a threat to public health." {Sworn testimony submitted by the Society in evidence before the European Human Rights Commission Jul 3 1997}
I would personally like miseryloveselders (or any other current JW) to comment. Was this a dishonest claim by the Watchtower?
I swear this forum is going to get me fired. I'm spending wayyy to much time on here, but we're a lil slow at work right now. BrotherDan I'd say I agree and disagree with that statement. Forgive me if this comes off like something Johnny Cochran or Bill Clinton might say, but there's some truth to that statement as well as the obvious smokescreen typical of WT doublespeak. Most "children" don't get baptized or even pressured to get baptized. There's exceptions, one even being my own mother. She was baptized at age 9. Most don't get baptized at that age. Fast forward a handful of years though.......then the peer pressure starts. Its mostly teenagers ranging anywhere from 13 to 18. I got dipped at age 16. The pressure was on me too, cuz a couple of my close friends had gotten baptized before me. One of which recieved a hug from a grandmotherly member of my home congregation. She hugged him, and said hi to everyone of us with the exception of myself. The reason being was because it appeared that I was holding out at age 15. Between Fall of that year, and the following spring, my folks put the screws on me. So I did what was naturally expected of me. As a man now, I've noticed the trend hasn't changed much. There's still the exceptional preteen or child, but mostly is mid point teenagers and young adults.
On a side note, I'd say for those who resist the pressure of getting baptized beyond age 18, the chances increase greatly that they will never get baptized. You'll see them every so often at an assembly, convention, or The Memorial.
in your neck of the woods?.
here, it's cooling off and the leaves are already turning.. my g'daughter's team lost a volleyball game on monday evening.. serves her right for being such a boastful little blister!.
syl.
can't resist this, sorry. Who the hell talks like that? Is that the great Ebonics you be speakin?
"What it be like, Holmes?"
I thought you were all educated? What the hell?
What it be like, bro??
To answer yo question, it be all hot an' shit, G!! It be so hot dis summa dat der be 9 heat waves up here in da No'east, an right now dis be da last one of da summa. It be freakin 94 degrees today. I'm sweatin so bad my ancestors be feelin it!
You talk like that still, REALLY?
Black people don't say freakin in that context. Mexicans are the ones that say Holmes. Plus Syl's thread topic was tongue in cheek.
Where I'm at, its hot. Ridiculously hot. Hotter than an oven in WW2 Germany. Cooking biscuits that is.
do j dubs like glenn beck?
they seem like peas in a pod to me.
Designs: misery-Explain in your terms the mentality of the 'Christians' who landed on this Continent and took by force the Lands away from the Nations and destroyed the cultures of people living here for centuries. The Spainish and other Europeans who took over everything from one Pole to the other.
In my terms, ahh man I don't know where to begin LOL. When I read what you're asking me to do, the first thing I thought of was Winston Churchill's thoughts regarding this subject. He said once, "I do not admit that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America, or the black people of Australia. I do not admit that a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, a higher grade race, a more worldy wise race, has come in and taken their place." I don't know if Churchill was a Christian or not, but that quote pretty much sums up the mentality of those good Christians who arrived on this country.
Something I find ironic is, Churchill was a racist, but he's still considered a hero both here and in the UK for standing up to the poster boy racist, Hitler. At the same time, the people you and I are taught to idolize in this country fought for freedom from Britain. Those same freedom fighters took the tyranny that they learned from the British, and practiced it upon the Indians, the blacks, and others. Again though, these are good Christians. This country is built upon Judeo-Christian values as we're often reminded by Conservatives.
Jesus saying, "I never knew you" can be applied to many.
do j dubs like glenn beck?
they seem like peas in a pod to me.
Burns, I love your posts even when I disagree with you. Don't tell me you buy this nonsense, do you?
when i was an elder i used to hate the wts organising km schools on christmas or new years day ( like they are doing again this year) & i know many other elders & ms felt the same.
it always struck me as a foolish time of year to organise these meetings.
for many it was the time of the year when they had family staying on holiday.
Quite a few brothers are irritated by this, myself included. As others mentioned, it shows how out of touch the COs, DOs, GB, Branches, etc. are. They act like we don't have full time jobs, or families, or personal lives that don't involve them. I look forward to the holiday season for much needed days off. Much needed solitude. You know one thing positive I've always said about being a JW around holiday time is that I don't have to get stressed about shopping, the mall, sales, or dealing with extended family and relatives, or planning some elaborate dinner, etc.. But low and behold, the GB decided to screw that end of our lives up too! The last thing I want to do on my days off, is get dressed up to go to some assembly hall to hear a whole bunch of repetative and dull material. You want to know the part that adds insult to injury, or salt on the wound? A couple months from now, they'll print an article in the KM or Study WT with false quotes along the lines of, "The brothers really appreciated the school provided by the Slave", "As one long time Elder stated, "I feel rejuvenated after feasting on such timely information!""
Those jackasses in NY still can't figure out why brothers aren't reaching out. It's right there in front of them, but they just don't get it. Its a combination of stupidity, ignorance, and arrogance on their part.
from what i've noticed 'wordly' teens or very young adults won't follow jw's.most teens/young jw's are born in,so boasting about the theocratic youth is actually boasting about jw children lol..
WOW.Didn't know 2/3 of born-ins leave the JW's.Now that explains everything:Most JW's are old and that's why you hear "We don't have many brothers under 35-40 in our congo".
http://religions.pewforum.org/reports
"Jehovah's Witnesses have the lowest retention rate of any religious tradition. Only 37% of all those who say they were raised as Jehovah's Witnesses still identify themselves as Jehovah's Witnesses. "
from what i've noticed 'wordly' teens or very young adults won't follow jw's.most teens/young jw's are born in,so boasting about the theocratic youth is actually boasting about jw children lol..
This past District Convention, on the last day, the closing speaker mentioned that there was an 81 year old woman amongst those getting baptized. The people clapped. He mentioned that because it is unique. I've never seen anybody that old or close to that age get baptized. On Saturday during the baptismal talk, when the speaker traditionally tells those getting baptized to follow the directions of the attendants, so as to be lead toward the changing rooms, we all got a good look at those getting baptized. 95% of them were teenagers or preteens. Chances are 100% of those teenagers are born-ins. Anybody that goes out regularly in field service here in the States, will tell you that for the most part it really is a huge waste of time. I don't know how it was during 50s, 60s, 70s, and 80s, but from my experiences looking at the 90s to the present time, its pointless. The only ones you tend to see get involved with JWs are those who have mental problems, and I don't mean minor depression.
One last thing that kills me, is if most of the people getting baptized are teenagers, and we all know from our own experiences and the PEW Study done a couple years featured in Time Magazine that 2/3 of born-ins eventually leave all together, why don't the boys in Brooklyn reexamine their organization? 2/3 of born-ins leave, not to mention how many get DFd, or reproved and stay for family. You would think the GB would step back and ask themselves, "is it us?"
do j dubs like glenn beck?
they seem like peas in a pod to me.
nice chart Purps! I just don't get it, how come people can't see through his act? He's a friggin actor for crying out loud! It's an act!!
do j dubs like glenn beck?
they seem like peas in a pod to me.
Then we have miserylovesmisery, who basically wants to see Glenn Beks and his posse die a horrible death. Yet this miseryloveselders thing gets offended by an Alamo reference. And is so awesomely uninformed that it walks around with Nuge anthems on its MP3 player.
Fucking hipocrytical retard.
Oh brother, this guy......smh.........
You ever hear about Led Zeppelin and the fish story? For those that haven't, rumor has it John Bonham and their road manager watched a Zeppelin groupie stick a live fish in her sugar walls. Supposedly she got off on it too, much to the humor of those observing. The rock star life surely has its perks I guess. Thats not peculiar to Zeppelin or Rock stars either. R.Kelly urinates on his groupies. I guess thats cool, if your into that sort of thing. But can you imagine yourself, being an entertainer, and people adore you so much that they're willing to toss their underwear on the stage for you? They're willing to go backstage and let you do whatever deviant thing you can think of to them? Several years ago, some random woman died, and guess who she left her entire estate to? Charles Bronson. Thats how much of a fan she was. So what am I getting at. B-Rock, you're similar to a groupie. Oh sure, you wouldn't let "The Nuge" stick a fish that he caught up your rectum. I hope not anyway. But what you will do, is post on a Jehovah's Witness forum, and spam it with ridiculous stories of Obama being a commie Muslim and other ilk. Anybody with a shred of common sense, knows that rumor is outragous. However, you being the brainwashed lil groupie you are, will continue to dance to the tune that your idols play for you. The difference between you and I is, I didn't wake up from being a braindead JW, only to turn into a braindead follower of a political pundit. To be more specific, I find it sad that you're a groupie for an actor playing the role of a political pundit. I hate to say it, but you're.....a manwhore. Being completely honest, I almost view you with the same disgust I have for pedophiles.
