Posts by miseryloveselders

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Do You Like Brownies?

by snowbird in

with nuts?.

milk?.

coffee?.

miseryloveselders

LOL Darkside, I swear you're a wild dude.

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Are all sexual predators pedophiles?

by Lady Lee in

i am against the use of the term "pedophile" as it is used within the ex-jw community.

the definition of pedophilia by merriam-webster is:.

sexual perversion in which children are the preferred sexual object .

No disrespect to anyone in this thread or elsewhere, but is it possible you guys are looking too far into this? What difference does it make if you label these folks as Chesters, Pedophiles, Rapos, or Sexual Predators?

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Teen Shot In Derriere ...

by snowbird in

http://live.drjays.com/index.php/2010/10/07/teenager-shot-over-sagging-pants/.

uh huh.. syl.

miseryloveselders

What are white boy perms?

Something that Eminem wears?

Syl

Nah, I'm thinking Hall & Oates, or Yanni.

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Do You Like Brownies?

by snowbird in

with nuts?.

milk?.

coffee?.

miseryloveselders

OMG Sylvia, that picture is like pornography right now!! Oh the naughty things I would do to a half dozen brownies right now!

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Teen Shot In Derriere ...

by snowbird in

http://live.drjays.com/index.php/2010/10/07/teenager-shot-over-sagging-pants/.

uh huh.. syl.

miseryloveselders

People were wearing those only a handful of decades ago?

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Teen Shot In Derriere ...

by snowbird in

http://live.drjays.com/index.php/2010/10/07/teenager-shot-over-sagging-pants/.

uh huh.. syl.

miseryloveselders

Bell bottoms came and went, afro's, white boy perms, togas, tunics, dressing like a beatnik. Fashion changes. And even if it didn't, so what?

Ya know the funny thing about that is all of those things came back with maybe the exception of white boy perms. Educate me though, whats a tunic and a toga?

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Teen Shot In Derriere ...

by snowbird in

http://live.drjays.com/index.php/2010/10/07/teenager-shot-over-sagging-pants/.

uh huh.. syl.

miseryloveselders

Ya know what... maybe it won't go away. Just like blue jeans haven't. The one time scourge of parents and teachers everywhere are now one of the most common pieces of clothing.

I doubt that the super sagging look will catch on with the general public though. It's actually work to have to wear em like that. Most people, after a certain age anyway, are going for comfort over fashion.

Despite it's origins, it's just a fashion statement. That statement might be, "Hey look at me, I'm an idiot", but other than wearing their stupidity on their knees, it's not really hurting anything other than their reputation. And if they don't care about what people think, then I don't care to try to convince them otherwise. And making laws isn't going to do anything. It'll only make matters worse in that you're denying them self-expression and they'll find other ways to express their angst and rage. I'd rather they wear stupid clothes than destroy property or resort to violence.

I think too after they reach a certain age, it stops. Something I've noticed too though, is that a lot of youth are going for a preppier look. I was talking to a dude thats my age, and went to a rival high school. We were reflecting on our experiences, and he made the point that he's glad to see teenagers dressing preppier. When we were their age, we were wearing Dickies, Carharts, ski masks in the winter. Public buses wouldn't let us on the bus if we had the ski masks on. We looked like killers, and there were killers amongst us, although the far majority including myself were just going with the flow. Nowadays though, there's room for kids to dress preppy, and in some cases like quasi homosexuals. So maybe kids are moving away from the G-look. I guess I should thank Kanye and Jay.

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Teen Shot In Derriere ...

by snowbird in

http://live.drjays.com/index.php/2010/10/07/teenager-shot-over-sagging-pants/.

uh huh.. syl.

miseryloveselders

How long does a fad last?

20 years?

Syl

This fad is longer than twenty years though. I'm on the East Coast, but I've always been under the impression this trend originate out West from the Pens. If those Cali boys were doing it throughout the eighties, that means this has been going on for a good thirty years at least from their standpoint. The rest of the country has been doing it for a good twenty years. I don't see this fad ceasing.

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Teen Shot In Derriere ...

by snowbird in

http://live.drjays.com/index.php/2010/10/07/teenager-shot-over-sagging-pants/.

uh huh.. syl.

miseryloveselders

Sigh...saggy pants are a fad. It will pass, all fads do. It's not a sign of anything except that someone is wearing baggy pants.

I don't think so, although I wish it would pass. I'm in my 30's, and when I was in high school 15 years ago kids were doing it. Now kids are still ding it. The only thing that seems to have changed is their jeans have gotten tighter.

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a reasonable question to any elder/members

by bigmac in

jw
friends

the question is this;.

because you are members of this apostate site, yet are still willing to serve the wt soc as elders,.

do you still hope to .

miseryloveselders

the question is this;

because you are members of this apostate site, yet are still willing to serve the WT soc as elders,

do you still hope to

1: survive armageddon

or

2: (if you snuff it beforehand,) do you hope for a resurrection?

I was gonna avoid this thread, but what the heck. BigMac, no disrespect to you, but this is one of least thought out questions I've seen on this board. I'm under the impression I should be insulted, but I've insulted enought posters on this board that it would be hypcocritical and a bitch move of me to be overly offended. Listen, I'm a member of an apostate website which I post on regularly while serving as an Elder. You know and I know posting on an apostate website is taboo in WT Land. Yet you still ask if those in my situation hope to survive Armageddon, or hope for a resurrection? If I'm posting on an apostate website, I think it goes without saying I don't have any hangups about Jehovah destroying me for posting on here. Although I will admit initially I had some unease, I'll grant you that. Just a touch of internal conflict.

My definition of courage is this....To be scared to death, and do the right thing anyway. In this situation, the right thing is to consider the greater good of others. An elder has the "edge" over the rank and file. Don't argue that, you know it is true...Given, an elder is low on the totem pole relatively speaking, but to the congo, he is the direct step to mama. You have to deal with the elder before you can appeal or take a situation further.

It is a hierarchy, and a male dominated level of authority. Yet some elders would profess to be "protecting" their wife and children. How are you protecting your precious family by subjegating them to a flawed (by your own admission) dogma? How are you protecting them? It seems to me You do not know the first thing about being a woman, or a lowly rank and file member of the witnesses. I don't accept that there is no difference. You are giving allegiance(gulp) to the enemy, and thereby delaying freedom to yourself and to your wife and family, who are indoctrinated to accept your authority... Sorry, I don't accept that, I don't understand that, it hurts me too much.

Now please remember (lest I get another slobbery raspberry, this is NOT directed to ANYONE personally. It is just my opinion on the wider theme.

I am a grandma of many children, a long time poster on this board, and am seeking honest dialogue. It is NOT my intent or desire to attack or hurt anyone. I have an honest desire to understand, and am trying to understand. I will drop the matter if my questions are offensive.

Hey LittleWitch. You mentioned you're a grandma of many children, I take that to mean you aint no spring chicken, and you quite possibly could fit the definition of whatever "this generation" meant to the WT 80 years ago, 20 years ago, and if you're still around 20 years from now, well you'll fit that definition too. Hell, you probably fit whatever Jesus meant when he said it. You state that as an Elder, we're low on the totem pole in the big scheme of things, however in the congregation's eyes I'm the liason to Big Momma. From your post, I can tell you're a feisty old fart. I check up on a couple feisty old farts like you in my field service group. They're a hoot, and I love them. However, those women are shrewd, and they take advantage of me, more than I could ever do them. On quite a few occasions I've done more for them than what I'm obligated to do. Their families have thanked me. I've sat in on Elder meetings where I've heard genuine concern for women in the hall from the ambitious men.

Considering that you're what we might call "experienced", you know as well as I do that women in this organization although not allowed to perform the same responsibilities of males, are still far from living the life of a slave. I don't know if you're recollecting from your plantation days or what, but the majority of the women in my Hall, are not helpless little wenches looking for mercy from the tyrannical Elder body and Lord Tyranus Misery the 3rd. While we're on the subject of Venus vs Mars, let me ask you a question my fair lady. I know some women on this forum resent not being able to perform the same duties of Ministerial Servants and Elders. Being honest though, do you think most women want to do that stuff? Absolutely not. Matter fact I'll use your lingo, "don't argue that, you know its true." Most of the men don't want to do that crap which is why we're always hearing the need for men to reach out. Its so bad that we've seen articles focusing on preaching specifically to men. I handle accounts, now if you want to start doing that, PM me your phone number and we can exchange addresses or fax numbers and you can start doing this crap. I'll even give you a shout out from the platform.

I can't say that I'm protecting any wife or children as I'm single, and there are no little versions of me carrying my DNA out there. I do have two older parents and siblings that I'm taking into consideration regarding my future decision. Its been mentioned in this thread that its not a thing to be taken lightly, to resign as if its as simple task. Especially when one is in good standing. I've got to play my cards right. I refuse to turn my back completely on my family or hurt them. Besides, there's people on this planet who are going through far worse than being a Jehovah's Witness. I could have been born in Somalia, or been a harlequin baby. I could have Sarcoma, or be paralyzed. But I just happend to be born into a family of devout JWs. I'll take it like a man and deal with it, but my way. Not the way that BigMac sees fit, or the way LittleWitch sees fit. Something else, you mentioned those like myself have allegiance to the WT as if I've joined the Nicky Scarfo Family. To let you describe it I'm terrorizing poor innocent children and widows in the congregation. Look, I like you, but seriously GTFOH! You pay taxes on things that you disagree with. Your local municipalities do things that you disagree with it. Do you recognize their allegiance? Do ya, worm? I'm not spying on anybody's activities in the hall, and neither is any of the other Elders on the body. I saw a rated R movie over the weekend, called, get this..........Devil. Yes, it was demonized. On my way home from work today, I was feeling kinda angsty, so I decided to listen to some CMW.(google that) My point is, I have a measure of freedom, just like anybody else in this country. It aint perfect, but you tell me, what is?

For the record, I'm not offended by any of your or anybody elses questions. Your questions are fair enough. Don't insult me trying to sugar coat it though.