Posts by miseryloveselders

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shunning is love - Feb 15 2011 Watchtower

by jj123jj123 in

18 if you face a similar situation, please remember that jehovah sympathizes with you.

by cutting off contact with the disfellowshipped or disassociated one, you are showing that you hate the attitudes and actions that led to that outcome.

however, you are also showing that you love the wrongdoer enough to do what is best for him or her.

miseryloveselders

In my experience, the people in the congregation that are disfellowshipped are actually some of the nicest people there. They feel guilt about their wrongdoing and either confess outright or do not deny it when the wrongdoing is presented to them.

In other words, they're normal LOL. It's so true. Those that have trouble with meeting attendance, or low field service time, or anything for that matter that The Society looks down upon, those people tend to be the people in the congregation who are the least backstabbing, least gossiping, and most genuine in your average congregation.

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Inconsistant loss of 'privileges'

by Lore in

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gotta love how giving talks, mowing the lawn, plowing the parking lot, adjusting microphones and counting the money are all considered 'privileges'.. but if you just stop answering questions.

bam no more giving talks, handling mics, or definately counting money.. but no matter what you do.

you will never loose the 'privilege' of mowing the kingdom hall lawn.

miseryloveselders

Why does loss of privelages not include no field service? It includes commenting/platform...but not service

LOL, exactly. Even when it comes to sin in the congregation, and one gets reproved, they still are expected to go out in service. The only exception is if what they were involved in becomes public knowledge. I know of a case where a brother was an alcoholic and caught a DUI. He got reproved, and lost the privilege of the pioneer label. However when the elders inq about him being able to go out in field service, the CO asked whether or not his arrest made the local news, which it did not. So the CO stated yes they can continue in field service. I've seen underage youth who were under reproof, and they were able to go out in service, but had to sit in the car because whatever their offenses were became public knowledge. Typically it was related to trouble at a public school.

It's all so crazy and inconsistant as the threadstarter mentioned. To me it just proves this organization is a publishing company thats too big for its britches and has run amok for too long.

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Feb. 15 Study WT - More creationism and stupidity - A response

by eric356 in

well, the wt is back on it: "today, there is a rising tide of atheistic and evolutionist propaganda dependent on flawed and baseless reasoning.

we should not let this flood of faulty thinking confuse or intimidate us.

" (pg.

miseryloveselders

I always avoid these threads, because I have absolutely zilch to contribute. I'm just completely ignorant when it comes to evolution. Part of me really doesn't care either to be honest. But when I see one of these threads go 5 and 6 pages deep, I know something fun is happening. This has been an entertaining read.

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Woman I work with just asked me, "if you fall in love and get married, do you have to marry a JW?"

by miseryloveselders in

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you wanna talk about a section in the office floor becoming as quiet as a vacant building in the middle of nowhere.

so she put her hand on her chin and said in more words or less, "if you fall in love, and get married, do you have to marry a jw?

i couldn't imagine people looking at me poorly because i didn't marry a jw!

miseryloveselders

Don't YOU be givin' THAT talk, bruh. If they saddle you with it, find some excuse, ANY excuse not to do it. Take care man...

V665

Naw, I wouldn't do it. It's not something I'd have to worry about landing on my lap either. I don't know if your familiar with how they divvy local need parts, but for those that dont know... The COBOE during the elders meeting asks for suggestions on local needs. Usually we end up with a handful of suggestions, such as, "the friends aren't preparing for the meetings and commenting is down", "the friends aren't saving the seats in the back for latecomers", or "my wife has been complaining about used tampons in the bathroom". The tampons local needs really did happen too. I couldn't believe what I was hearing when it was suggested at the elders meeting, and even when the brother delivered it from the platform, I was like WTF?!? Granted he discussed other sanitary related issues too, but hearing a brother give a talk on courtesy flushes and used tampons is something to behold.

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Why don't JWs celebrate Thanksgiving

by levicolemagic in

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my first post here.

i wrote this little article about why jws don't celebrate thanksgiving.. check it out here: http://hubpages.com/hub/what-jehovahs-witnesses-believe.

let me know what you think of it.. god bless.

miseryloveselders

Welcome LeviColeMagic.

One thing, I don't have a copy of the new Flock book on hand, maybe somebody can look it up, but there may be a softening of their position on Thanksgiving and other holidays. Too early to tell. I'm thinking we'll find out more when the KM School starts next month.

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Woman I work with just asked me, "if you fall in love and get married, do you have to marry a JW?"

by miseryloveselders in

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you wanna talk about a section in the office floor becoming as quiet as a vacant building in the middle of nowhere.

so she put her hand on her chin and said in more words or less, "if you fall in love, and get married, do you have to marry a jw?

i couldn't imagine people looking at me poorly because i didn't marry a jw!

miseryloveselders

Jadeen thanks for responding. Wow, is all I can say. I've always wondered how these situations play out. Being that you weren't baptized, one would think a special needs talk was unnecessary. As you mentioned the congregation starting gossping and slandering. It's situation like this that make me say to myself, "only Jehovah's people!"

Part of the reason I asked you was due a situation going on in my hall now We have a visiting brother who is baptized. He's dating a born-in athoughnot baptized sister. It looks like its going to materialize into marriage. Which I hope it does. They seem to be great together. But the talk in the congregation has been nothing short of negative. I haven't heard any inklings of and elders suggesting a local needs part, but I'm wondering if I'll see such a thing shortly.

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Anyone planning on wearing a wire to their secret elders course?

by wheelwithinwheel in

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it would be great to preserve: .

- the grade 3 level dictation of unwritten wt rules like the 6 supreme directives to keep mother shameless and blameless.

- the true-to-life how to handle skits.

miseryloveselders

You've got a PM Broken.

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Woman I work with just asked me, "if you fall in love and get married, do you have to marry a JW?"

by miseryloveselders in

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friends

you wanna talk about a section in the office floor becoming as quiet as a vacant building in the middle of nowhere.

so she put her hand on her chin and said in more words or less, "if you fall in love, and get married, do you have to marry a jw?

i couldn't imagine people looking at me poorly because i didn't marry a jw!

miseryloveselders

had told him about how some witnesses were not talking to me because I got engaged to a "worldly", there was local needs talks about "marrying in the Lord", yada, yada. Some fine anti-witnessing that day.

I've always wondered how often this happens. Let me ask you, where you there when they did the local needs talk? If so, how did that feel? Even if you weren't there, how did it feel when it got back to you?

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What do you do when a Witness friend says something epicly hypocritical?

by sabastious in

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i was talking to my mother-in-law (an avid jw).

the subject of evolution came up briefly and she said that evolution was just a bunch of propaganda.. i mean refering to evolution articles as propaganda?

the watchtower's evolution refutations are nothing but blatent propaganda!.

miseryloveselders

Its difficult to even respond to that stuff, because depending on what you say it alerts them to something being wrong. I'll be honest man, often enough I just nod my head when a fellow JW states something outrageously hypoctrical or just downright stupid. The first example I can think of is, "only Jehovah's people" when used in the positive sense. Its laughable because the same people who say stuff like that positively, will be the first people complaining about what Brother Such-N-So said or did that offended them. Or from the platform, when we go over those retarded and phony Yearbook parts in an effort to encourage the ministry locally, the speaker, the commentors all speak so positively of the ministry, meanwhile they all hate the ministry.

There's too many examples of verbal hypocrisy to name, but one has to be real careful exposing his/her hand. So like I said, I just nod my head and smile. You ever see the very end of Invasion of the Body Snatchers when Donald Sutherland at the end alerts the other aliens to a human woman? Thats what its like if you call out or question a fellow JW on their hypocritical thoughts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prT1E_S__jM&feature=related

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Woman I work with just asked me, "if you fall in love and get married, do you have to marry a JW?"

by miseryloveselders in

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friends

you wanna talk about a section in the office floor becoming as quiet as a vacant building in the middle of nowhere.

so she put her hand on her chin and said in more words or less, "if you fall in love, and get married, do you have to marry a jw?

i couldn't imagine people looking at me poorly because i didn't marry a jw!

miseryloveselders

OMG WTWizard LOL. I swear dude, you are my favorite poster. Everything you post is sooooo true, but sooo comedic LOL. You help take the edge of this cancer of a religion. Having a sense of humor is in my opinion the best way to deal with this organization. The second you begin to take it too seriously, is when you lose your mind or have a mini meltdown like I did last week.

Keep Yourselves in God's Tyranny book LOL. The Value Destroyer Training School For Singles LOL.

I swear everything natural in this religion, like wanting to get married, fall in love, learn about live through education, being able to provide for your family, enjoying the company of your family without ridiculous shunning.........its all perverted in some way, shape or form by a demonic publishing company. It's crazy!!!