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  McVeigh vs Death Penalty

  by Amazing in

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  i am a policitcal conservative, at least a fiscal conservative and sociel moderate.

  i support the death penalty, but i agree that our judicial system needs to overhaul how wwe treat criminals to achieve better rehabilitation results.

  and of course, withhold the death penalty in cases where there could be doubt.. in mcveigh's case, i believe that he deserves the death penalty.

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  JanH

  Slayer,

  You said:
  

  We can disagree with being assholes.

  And of course I would hope you could.

  But how does this statement, from an earlier message, come into your sudden realization that a "condescending attitude will get you nowhere":

  Awwwww...did da poor wittle muhdawah have a bad environment to grow up in? Poor wittle guy.
  Quit hugging trees with your bleeding heart. Go save some whales or something.

  
  - Jan
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  Faith, n. Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel. [Ambrose Bierce, The Devil´s Dictionary, 1911]
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  The Tale of the Five Army Officers

  by waiting in

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  the tale of the five officers (2000) .

  when ms. k. was slowly raped and murdered by a common thug over the.

  course of 1 hour and 55 minutes, in plain sight of five fully-armed.

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  JanH

  waiting,

  I actually got this from H20 about 8 months ago - but don't remember who originally posted it.

  It was me.

  The original resides here: http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/mark_vuletic/five.html

  I did post a link to H2O.

  - Jan
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  Faith, n. Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel. [Ambrose Bierce, The Devil´s Dictionary, 1911]
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  Latest News You WON'T See in Awake!

  by RationalWitness in

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  among the headlines on yahoo!

  this afternoon:.

  crime survey shows largest drop ever in 2000.

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  JanH

  If I don't remember very wrong here: Crime in the US increased rapidly thru the 70s and 80s, and flattened out sometime around 85. This trend, except the sharp increase, seems to have been mirrored in many other western countries. Since the mid-80s, crime has been on the decline in the US, and this trend seems to continue.

  - Jan
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  Faith, n. Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel. [Ambrose Bierce, The Devil´s Dictionary, 1911]
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  The Tale of the Five Army Officers

  by waiting in

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  the tale of the five officers (2000) .

  when ms. k. was slowly raped and murdered by a common thug over the.

  course of 1 hour and 55 minutes, in plain sight of five fully-armed.

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  JanH

  And everyone in the room, myself included, nodded his head in agreement.

  Of course, the point is that these five police officers each represent a common "explanation" Christians have for God permitting evil.

  - Jan
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  Faith, n. Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel. [Ambrose Bierce, The Devil´s Dictionary, 1911]
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  Be afraid...be very afraid...

  by fodeja in

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  from http://www.greatcrowd.com/159ubb/forum22/html/000167.html.

  he gave us some statistics about how much the occurrences of random violence have escalated over the recent years, and it's terrible.

  something like 99% of us will be exposed to, or become a victim of a violent crime.

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  JanH

  Odd timing indeed. Just today the latest crime statistics for the US was released:

  "U.S. reports steepest annual violent crime drop

  Incidents of violent crime plummeted nearly 15 percent in 2000, the steepest one-year drop since the federal government began keeping track in 1973, the Justice Department said today."

  See http://www.cnn.com/2001/LAW/06/13/crime.report/index.html for more.

  - Jan
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  Faith, n. Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel. [Ambrose Bierce, The Devil´s Dictionary, 1911]
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  "you can live forever" as an educatio...

  by lisaBObeesa in

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  hello fellow ex-es,.

  i took a class in cultural anthropology that touched on the subjects of language and doublespeak, loaded language, jargon etc.

  i set to reading the "live forever" book looking for these things.

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  JanH

  lisa,

  Very interesting topic indeed. You're clearly on to something here.

  A guy who used to hang around some JW mailing lists, Joel Elliot, did a lot of work on JWs and language. He was never a JW, but knows more about them than any never-been-JW I ever met. Last I talked to him, he was completing his PhD in some humanities subject (on religion). Perhaps someone here knows Joel's wherabouts now?

  ‘spiritual’ = can’t think of the honest JW meaning….help??

  
  It means law-abiding or perhaps rule-abiding. JWs define spirituality as willingness and ability to follow both the written and unwritten laws of the JW community and religion. Actually, they even quantify it. One who uses more time in e.g. field service than another, is considered "more spiritual".

  One caveat with your project, though: Depending on the level you do this work, you should be aware there is no "true meaning" of words. Different social groups attach different meanings to these expressions. I think a professor would like you to really discuss the issue of social construction of language before making any jump to talk about "JW meaning" vs "real meaning" of language. JWs have obviously taken the expression from "mainstream language" and changed its meaning for its purposes. How and why this is done is very interesting.

  - Jan
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  Faith, n. Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel. [Ambrose Bierce, The Devil´s Dictionary, 1911]
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  Enough Talk, Let's Kick Ass

  by DreamMaster in

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  oh my god!!!!.

  my wife just took me to a site about jw women being molested and abused and not only wasn't anyone prosecuted, those bastards were allowed to continue raping these innocent children under the protection of the gb.

  i was not raised a jw so when i hear something like this it ignites in me an anger that you can not begin to imagine.

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  The "one out of four" claim is totally bogus. By the definition some feminists use on "sexually abused" (any undesired sexual contact), I am sexually abused by women frequently when I go out drinking. Such nonsense trivializes real cases of abuse. The real figure seems to be between 1% and 5% of women, and that is bad enough!

  I totally agree that those who abuse women or children, sexually or otherwise, should be caught and punished. But considering the disastrous amount of false charges, and in many cases wrong convictions, happening in the 1980s when the child abuse scare surfaced big time, I will still advice some caution.

  - Jan
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  Faith, n. Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel. [Ambrose Bierce, The Devil´s Dictionary, 1911]
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  McVeigh vs Death Penalty

  by Amazing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am a policitcal conservative, at least a fiscal conservative and sociel moderate.

  i support the death penalty, but i agree that our judicial system needs to overhaul how wwe treat criminals to achieve better rehabilitation results.

  and of course, withhold the death penalty in cases where there could be doubt.. in mcveigh's case, i believe that he deserves the death penalty.

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  Lisa,

  Why not go all the way to gas chambers, crematorias and kz camps? You just lack a good supply of Zyklon B and you're in business!

  - Jan
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  Faith, n. Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel. [Ambrose Bierce, The Devil´s Dictionary, 1911]
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  McVeigh vs Death Penalty

  by Amazing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am a policitcal conservative, at least a fiscal conservative and sociel moderate.

  i support the death penalty, but i agree that our judicial system needs to overhaul how wwe treat criminals to achieve better rehabilitation results.

  and of course, withhold the death penalty in cases where there could be doubt.. in mcveigh's case, i believe that he deserves the death penalty.

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  JanH

  Lilacs,

  Take a look at some of these articles: http://www.salon.com/directory/topics/prisons/index.html

  - Jan
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  Faith, n. Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel. [Ambrose Bierce, The Devil´s Dictionary, 1911]
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  McVeigh vs Death Penalty

  by Amazing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am a policitcal conservative, at least a fiscal conservative and sociel moderate.

  i support the death penalty, but i agree that our judicial system needs to overhaul how wwe treat criminals to achieve better rehabilitation results.

  and of course, withhold the death penalty in cases where there could be doubt.. in mcveigh's case, i believe that he deserves the death penalty.

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  JanH

  Lisa,
  

  PS. for the record, I live in California. The execution took place at 5 am. I woke up at 4:45 to watch CNN and make sure it happened. When they reported it at 5:14 that he had been given the lethal injection, I turned off my TV and snuggled up to my husband and went back to sleep. (Well not really back to sleep, but that's another story, lol)

  Just before I puke, let me get this straight: the thought of him being executed by a poison injection actually turned you on sexually?

  This explains some of your other fascist messages in this thread. It is no wonder you have such an insane crime rate in the US, with yoru sick fetish for death and killing. What you consider the cure, is actually what was the disease in the first place.

  - Jan
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  Faith, n. Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel. [Ambrose Bierce, The Devil´s Dictionary, 1911]