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  Kool-Aid Man, Is Your Army Ready For The Memorial? Where did you go?

  by Bubblegum Apotheosis in

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  kool-aid man, is your plan to protest the memorial still in play?

  are you mia?.

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  garyneal

  I'm sorry to hear that Rick Fearon was booted out.
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  How many generations do YOU see?

  by 00DAD in

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  garyneal

  Well, I need not wonder how you all think of this teaching but I do find it amazing how witnesses will not look at this teaching and not wonder how the Governing Body could try to push this nonsense on them.

  When I ask my wife to explain how this teaching is even remotely correct, she shuts down or tries to side step it with the belief that it does not matter. How have your witness friends and loved ones responding to this?
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  An Elder's honest opinion...saw this on another site...thoughts?

  by MsGrowingGirl20 in

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  by "shadow elder".

  before i express my opinion to the readers and contributors to this website (www.ex-jw.com), i would like to explain who i am and to present my bona fides as someone qualified to comment on this website and jehovah's witnesses in general.. first of all, i am an active jehovah's witness living just outside of new york city.

  being a large metropolis, new york has many kingdom halls located within the city and several more in surrounding boroughs, counties, and suburbs.

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  garyneal

  Whilst a lot of what the Watchtower teaches is plainly wrong, at the same time, can somebody point me to another religion that is not even more wrong?

  Define 'even more wrong?'

  Iam in the position where I would Love to attend a church that teaches truth, for the same reasons I originally joined the JWs, that hasnt changed, I would go back to the JWs because I think most of them are about the nicest people you can meet, thats probably why half of them are still in it.

  I see, it is that 'where else can we go' mentality that keeps a lot of witnesses in. I will admit, I was never a witness but even I fell victim to this mentality.

  Nambo, it took me a while to realize this but the whole point is not to run to another church or religion as a replacement but to be free to serve God in a way that you do not find unacceptable. Good luck to you.

  As to the elder, I really do appreciate his honest post about the Society.
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  Do the Jehovah Witnesses break up families?

  by trailerfitter in

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  2. experiences

  the answer is yes in my case.

  for some of you wonderful people on here will remember i asked a few questions and was concerned about my wife becoming a jehovahs witness,...well, she is baptised now and fully fleged (committed).. i have been called possessed by satan , mentally ill, a schitzophrenic and was beaten emotionally and mentally.

  eventually i had to leave our house after 2 years of this situation getting worse.

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  I'm sorry you are going through this, trailerfitter. I know that has got to be rough. My wife and I went through bouts of that too when I realized how counterproductive it was. Blondie does make a good point in her Watchtower quote, it looks like your wife was not paying attention.

  Rule #1, never ever discuss doctrine. A lesson I learned too late. Combatting Cult Mind Control and Releasing the Bonds are must reads for peoplein this situation. As is some of the stuff on Randy's website.
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  Immortality.....will it come from god or man, The answer's here

  by Wizard of Oz in

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  immortality......will it come from god or man.

  just finished watching a short thought provoking doco about the major advances science has made toward that goal.

  it can be accessed @.

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  Page not found. Hmmm, guess it is all a hoax.
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  Discussion with my dad about 607 in a week,,,,help?

  by stillstuckcruz in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so to make a long story short, my family found out about my "apostacy"(i couldn't take it anymore) and now everything is all in shambles.

  they still feel there is "hope" for me.

  (ha!).

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  All good advice but somewhat conflicted. I've tried doing this myself and I've been tripped up by their craftiness. I think JW Facts said it best, in my opinion. Keep us posted on how it goes.

  Anyway, in a week,maybe less, he wants to discuss that date and why I don't support it. Keep in mind that my dad is an elder(one of the more reasonable ones) and is also a math wiz. So is there anything I can use that will show him that it can't be correct? I want to keep it simple as too much info will help no one. lol.

  He's a math whiz so I would try AlleyMom's angle as suggested by AnnOMaly. Just work out the numbers using only the Watchtower material referenced.

  His defense was the typical JW responce...that JW's rely only on the bible and not worldly historians, who don't have a love of the scriptures bla bla bla.

  There are no dates given in the Bible, so how in the world can anyone determine what the date is if one relied only on the Bible? That question should open his mind as he needs to figure out how any of the dates are determined.

  He also said that non-JW sources rely on the Gregorian calender while JW's rely on the lunar calendar or some other nonsense.

  But the date, 539 B.C.E. is given in terms of the Gregorian calendar. Even down to the month that it was suppose to happen (October?). How could the witnesses rely on the lunar calendar without converting it over to the Gregorian calendar? Wouldn't it make sense that the non-witness sources did the same thing.
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  DISCUSSION WITH A JW; YOUR INPUT PLEASE...

  by Mary in

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  i'm 'talking' with a jw on another site who of course, does not believe that they are 'false prophets' and says that:.

  "...prophetic inspiration and being filled with the spirit ( to use a common expression) do not mean the same thing.".

  "...again the wts is using the term "prophet" in the basic sense of a spokesman.

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  If the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society is not a false prophet, neither is Harold Camping.
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  Is the Watchtower blood guilty?. See what some elders have to say.

  by blond-moment in

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  2. scandals

  this jc is worth listening to, in my opinion he has the elders against the ropes most of discussion.. if you are only going to listen to one, this one is the money shot, this is the one i wish those curious about jw could hear.

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhixl-riwzq.

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  She's back and I could really use some advice!

  by OneDayillBeFree in

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  i dont know where to begin.

  i do know it might get lengthy so i'm sorry for that.

  and also many thanks to all who read the whole thing.

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  I don't know. I tend to believe that honesty is the best policy when it comes to revealing your feelings about things. She asked you how you felt and you hesistated to answer. Now you are trying to steer her out of the cult. I guess if you were already married, that is one thing, but going into a relationship trying to change someone?

  I wouldn't put in the effort if I were you. Too much stress.
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  In Love with a JW but he dumped me

  by Ranavalona in

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  so i just broke up with my jw boyfriend of over two years, nearly three.

  when i met him he was disfellowshipped and i didn't find out he was a jehovah's witness unitl 4 months into the relationship.

  six month into he was reinstated with the caution of getting rid of me, but he didnt.

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  garyneal

  Once again, my advice, count your blessings as this really is a blessing in disguise, leave this board (if you have not already done so), and live your life. The Jehovah's Witnesses and the Watchtower are the cross that we have to bear and the Hell we have to endure. You've been set free of this, so be free and find yourself and find someone who will appreciate you.