Faith without works is dead!
This is the common comeback whenever I point out that all of that door knocking, meeting attendance, and WT study is not going to earn them everlasting life.
garyneal
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What JW catch phrase DRIVES YOU NUTS!!!!
by megaflower in"we should be mindful".
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
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Are the Dubbers still preaching the end is very close?
by dogon inwe use to joke around and use the line from danny deveto on romancing the stone where he is asking michael dougless when he is coming back, soon very soon as a way to make fun of the believers who would keep telling us on stage the end was soon very soon.
they started this after the 75 and 2000 failure.
what are they saying now?.
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I'm under 30, and I've seen the whole world conditions rapidly decline since 97
Well, others have already pointed this out so I will only add to it that I am under 40 and I have seen the world rapidly decline since 1987 (you know when the stock market crashed). Hmmmm, wait a minute, the world has been declining since around 1977 (you know the oil crisis and stagflation).
Um, hold on, what about 1927? The late 20's the stock market crashing in 29, the great depression of the 30's following.
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Visiting brother gets fed today...
by garyneal ini suffered through 3 hours of jw-dom by going to the meeting with my wife because my daughter wanted to go and my niece was being carried too.
a part of me feels a bit obligated to go when my daughter goes out of protection for her and a part of me feels like i should go since my wife had two small girls going with her and my daughter alone is a handful.. a visiting brother in the neighboring city of suffolk, va gave a talk today and some of the people wanted to take him out to dinner.
my wife was invited to go along and she was real excited about that.
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Thanks for sharing everyone.
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Why do Ex-JWs start celebrating pagan Christmas?
by DubR inhiya guys and gals.
im not trying to be self-righteous but i want to understand the thought process of someone who knows the origins of christmas, but starts celebrating it (putting up christmas tree, exchanging wrapped gifts; repeating merry christmas to everyone they see in the month of december)??
it seems very silly to me (imo) after knowing how and why christmas was created (to cater to pagans sun worship and convert to christianity)!!
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garyneal
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Why do Ex-JWs start celebrating pagan Christmas?
by DubR inhiya guys and gals.
im not trying to be self-righteous but i want to understand the thought process of someone who knows the origins of christmas, but starts celebrating it (putting up christmas tree, exchanging wrapped gifts; repeating merry christmas to everyone they see in the month of december)??
it seems very silly to me (imo) after knowing how and why christmas was created (to cater to pagans sun worship and convert to christianity)!!
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garyneal
Looks like there is a problem with page 5.
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Why do Ex-JWs start celebrating pagan Christmas?
by DubR inhiya guys and gals.
im not trying to be self-righteous but i want to understand the thought process of someone who knows the origins of christmas, but starts celebrating it (putting up christmas tree, exchanging wrapped gifts; repeating merry christmas to everyone they see in the month of december)??
it seems very silly to me (imo) after knowing how and why christmas was created (to cater to pagans sun worship and convert to christianity)!!
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garyneal
Um, I mean page 11. Oooops
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Do you think it would be harder for her to leave him?
by asilentone inthe other day, i noticed a jw wife that has 5 children, she seems very not happy with her jw husband, does it make it harder for her to leave him?.
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I got alot of help and support from JW's when I left my ex-husband. Interesting, how does that make you feel knowing that you are not a part of that group anymore?
The reason why I ask is because when I think about my deciding not to be a part of the witnesses, I think of the elder who was very nice to my wife and I over the years and nice he has been to us. People like him make it harder for me to leave them behind.
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Visiting brother gets fed today...
by garyneal ini suffered through 3 hours of jw-dom by going to the meeting with my wife because my daughter wanted to go and my niece was being carried too.
a part of me feels a bit obligated to go when my daughter goes out of protection for her and a part of me feels like i should go since my wife had two small girls going with her and my daughter alone is a handful.. a visiting brother in the neighboring city of suffolk, va gave a talk today and some of the people wanted to take him out to dinner.
my wife was invited to go along and she was real excited about that.
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garyneal
RutherFRAUD,
Your story sounds similar to the story I read entitled, "The Spanking Room: A Child's Eye View of the Jehovah's Witnesses." After reading your posts more closely, I see that I was wrong for dismissing your advice as being overbearing and domineering. I apologize, and I am real sorry for the kind of childhood that you had to endure. As I was saying in my previous post, my wife had a fairly 'normal' childhood under the religion so she does not feel that this religion is a treacherous as it seems.
My wife has friends who are not a part of this religion. One of her friends is her assistant at the school where she teaches who is Catholic and another is a neighbor (well former neighbor) who goes to church and considers herself a Christian. The neighbor and my wife went to see the Christmas lights with their two little girls recently. My wife, along with some of the ladies at her school threw a surprise birthday party for her assistant. Since my wife spent the last five years basically living how she wants to, she is finding it difficult to completely fall in line with the Society's teachings.
This, I believe, is a good thing. As long as we live a good five hours drive from most of her family, things are good. When we go home to visit family, she kind of gets into 'uber dub' mode since the majority of her family is in the cult.
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Visiting brother gets fed today...
by garyneal ini suffered through 3 hours of jw-dom by going to the meeting with my wife because my daughter wanted to go and my niece was being carried too.
a part of me feels a bit obligated to go when my daughter goes out of protection for her and a part of me feels like i should go since my wife had two small girls going with her and my daughter alone is a handful.. a visiting brother in the neighboring city of suffolk, va gave a talk today and some of the people wanted to take him out to dinner.
my wife was invited to go along and she was real excited about that.
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I was rereading some of these posts and I was looking at Judge RutherFRAUD's post again (along with Dinah's and Moshe's). Personally, I do find myself in a bit of a dilemma. Frankly, if I had my way, I would have nothing more to do with the witnesses. However, as long as my wife is in the cult, it will always be a part of my life.
I checked out freeminds.org sometime back around June of this year. As I was reading through the stories, it broke my heart to see what people had to endure in 'God's organization.' Since my wife had a fairly 'normal' childhood under the witness religion, she does not see how treacherous this religion can be. While I believe she has a good head on her shoulders, I also know that when she gets in DUB mode all reasoning and logic go right out the window.
She was at the meeting yesterday and one of the 'sisters' invited her to some kind of get together. My wife asked if I can join them and her response was, "Well, we have only a limited amount of space." My wife told me about it and said that she felt that she could not go if there was no room for me. I told her that I was glad she considered me and told her that the people at 'my' church are telling me that she is more than welcomed to come visit the church or go to one of its functions. I told her about one of the regular get togethers that they do is meet at various people's houses for fun and games and overall good times. She said that as long as it did not involve religious topics, she was game for going. Therefore, I am going to look into when they are having their next gathering and ask if we can attend.
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I got your card, mouthy, along with AuntBee's and Saoirse friend's.
I've also sent out all of my cards last week and the week before.