Posts by garyneal

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"Mental Problems Associated WIth Leaving JWs" youtube

by AuntBee in

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earnestlyseeking returns to youtube.

-- i know a lot of you can relate to what he's going through.

i can't even imagine being his age, and going through this after so many years in wt.

"Encouragement" from my mother-in-law to my wife

by garyneal in

my wife did not attend the holiday celebrations with my daughter and i and instead chose to spend the time with her parents.

she told her mom how she saw nothing wrong with the holiday celebrations and my m-i-l told her that she was right in that the things people do this time of year are very beautiful indeed.

however, it is the reason why people do these things why we are not suppose to partake in them.

I tried compromising. I told her that if I was willing to go with her to some of her meetings and even some of her assemblies multiple times a year then I see no reason why she could not be with me and my family once a year on Christmas. I even suggested that we spend Christmas morning at home while my daughter opens her 'Santa' gifts and then we ride to my family's house later for the annual dinner. We can then spend the rest of the week between spending time with her family and spending time with mine. She 'dogmatically' proclaims that by her being there she appears to be celebrating the holiday to outsiders. Never mind the fact that by my being at the assemblies, some individuals might mistaken me for a JW. I even had someone call me 'brother' at one of those assemblies.

Outlaw,

I hear what you are saying and I do hope that you are wrong. My MIL does seem like a caring person and a somewhat tolerant person. However, she is mislead by an organization that sets itself up as God's sole channel on the Earth.

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My first time in the Kingdom Hall

by leslieUsry in

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i am going for the first time to a local kingdom hall.

i seem to have the same ideas as the jehovah's witnesses.

i was raised southern baptist, but i never could get into it.

garyneal

Hey, maybe we're drawing the wrong conclusions from the lack of response here. Perhaps this individual is truly reading all of the information we pointed her to.

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My first time in the Kingdom Hall

by leslieUsry in

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i am going for the first time to a local kingdom hall.

i seem to have the same ideas as the jehovah's witnesses.

i was raised southern baptist, but i never could get into it.

garyneal

I think she ran screaming from the board a while ago

Yeah unfortunately, she may be thinking that we are all under the influence of Satan attempting to stear her away from the 'truth.'

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For those who researched 607...

by AwSnap in

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did you use wt dates as well as things found from a secular perspective?

if a witness was researching the 607 dates strictly from watchtower info, would it still become clear they are wrong?

or does the wtbs *make* the dates add up...?

garyneal

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Post 1836

On what basis do you find 'sufficient support' for 607 B.C.E.?

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The 607 / 587 / 586 B.C.E. Research

by garyneal in

for anyone who read through my previous thread concerning the conflict my wife and i had over my coming to this forum will recall that my wife agreed to go with me to the library to research 607 b.c.e.. well, unfornately my daughter and i got sick over the weekend so we could not make that trip.

however, my wife did do some research in her wt publications and on the internet!

frankly, i was surprised she even went to the internet but i told her that to 'stay away' from 'apostate' sites all she had to do was google 'babylonian captivity' and see what comes up.

garyneal

Thanks AnnOMaly,

That is exactly who he was referring to and thanks for your input. I've also found this thread to be very informative.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/186656/1/For-those-who-researched-607

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"Encouragement" from my mother-in-law to my wife

by garyneal in

my wife did not attend the holiday celebrations with my daughter and i and instead chose to spend the time with her parents.

she told her mom how she saw nothing wrong with the holiday celebrations and my m-i-l told her that she was right in that the things people do this time of year are very beautiful indeed.

however, it is the reason why people do these things why we are not suppose to partake in them.

garyneal

Thanks lisa,

My thoughts exactly. When she asked me what would my family think of her being present, I just said that no one really knows that much about the religion and no one cares what you really feel about it. They are just simply glad that you are present whether you partake or not.

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My first time in the Kingdom Hall

by leslieUsry in

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friends

i am going for the first time to a local kingdom hall.

i seem to have the same ideas as the jehovah's witnesses.

i was raised southern baptist, but i never could get into it.

garyneal

Thanks for the endorsement, dgp. My you tube channel is http://www.youtube.com/user/garynealjr. Check the favorites section and watch the video, "Witnesses of Jehovah." You can also order it on VHS and DVD at http://www.goodnewsdefenders.com/.

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"Encouragement" from my mother-in-law to my wife

by garyneal in

my wife did not attend the holiday celebrations with my daughter and i and instead chose to spend the time with her parents.

she told her mom how she saw nothing wrong with the holiday celebrations and my m-i-l told her that she was right in that the things people do this time of year are very beautiful indeed.

however, it is the reason why people do these things why we are not suppose to partake in them.

garyneal

So true, JO. What's even funnier is that the WT itself is guilty of twisting scripture and reasoning to support the opposite thing in similar circumstances (pagan pinatas anyone?).

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"Encouragement" from my mother-in-law to my wife

by garyneal in

my wife did not attend the holiday celebrations with my daughter and i and instead chose to spend the time with her parents.

she told her mom how she saw nothing wrong with the holiday celebrations and my m-i-l told her that she was right in that the things people do this time of year are very beautiful indeed.

however, it is the reason why people do these things why we are not suppose to partake in them.

garyneal

My wife did not attend the holiday celebrations with my daughter and I and instead chose to spend the time with her parents. She told her mom how she saw nothing wrong with the holiday celebrations and my m-i-l told her that she was right in that the things people do this time of year are very beautiful indeed. However, it is the reason why people do these things why we are not suppose to partake in them. My wife did at least come with me to my extended family's dinner Christmas night where only the kids received presents from their secret Santa. However, my wife has made it clear that her presence sends a message that she is 'condoning' the activity when she should not be. She may not attend next years Christmas dinner.

Upon reading her Bible last night, she found the following note of 'encouragement' from her mom.

Remember:

As you start your journey in serving Jehovah, the world will be fill with lights and glitterings. Know this at the end of day there will still be darkness. Don't let Satan win! Glitterings and lights are not the most important things in these last days. What is missing at the end of day "How did my life give honor to Jehovah?"

Ecc 12:1, 13 and Proverbs 27:11

Here are the verses that her mom cites:

Ecc 12:1 -- Remember, now, your Grand Creator in the days of your young manhood, before the calamitous days proceed to come, or the years have arrived when you will say: “I have no delight in them”;

Ecc 12:13 -- The conclusion of the matter, everything having been heard, is: Fear the [true] God and keep his commandments. For this is the whole [obligation] of man.

Proverbs 27:11 -- Be wise, my son, and make my heart rejoice, that I may make a reply to him that is taunting me.