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  Post 607: Reject 607 BC if You TRULY Trust the Bible!!!

  by Londo111 in

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  therefore, if the 70 years period is for the destruction of jerusalem and exile at babylon:.

  if zedekiah had not rebelled against babylon, had he surrendered during the final siege that lasted two and a half years, then the destruction of jerusalem and the deportation need not have happened.

  then in the jubilee year, they were set free and their hereditary land was returned to them.

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  garyneal

  Thanks.

  Marking
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  Thought you all would get a kick out of this...

  by garyneal in

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  recipe for an ifb cult leader:.

  1 multi-dose vial of love bombing.

  2 cups of megalomania.

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  Oh, and just for the record, I did not write this. Got it from the IFB Cult Survivors wall on facebook.

  Amazing the similarities, isn't it?
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  Thought you all would get a kick out of this...

  by garyneal in

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  recipe for an ifb cult leader:.

  1 multi-dose vial of love bombing.

  2 cups of megalomania.

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  Recipe for an IFB cult leader:
  
  1 multi-dose vial of love bombing
  2 cups of Megalomania
  ½ cup of bigotry
  ... 1 splash of polishing your shaft
  2 years of preacher boys class, preferably self taught by your “pastor” but will accept a degree from any unaccredited bible institute
  2 tablespoons of paranoia
  1 large barrel filled with both Rick Warren and Jon Bon Jovi CD’s
  3 die hard followers (preferably related by blood)
  1 large potluck belly (we don’t believe in beer!)
  12 stoic children (necessary to complete the quiver, and form the Lord’s army)
  3 cups of KJV or a personal translation will do
  
  In a bowl, mix megalomania with KJV. Slowly pour in the love bombing. Slide the bigotry and paranoia in at the bottom of the mixture. Add the stoic children. You can add sausage, preferably one that looks bigger than it actually is. In a second bowl, mix together the polished shaft, preacher boy class, die hard followers, and potluck belly. Pour the mixture from the second bowl over the first. Bake at 350 degrees to hell. Light the barrel of Cds on fire, and shout “hallelujah”.
  
  (If the mixture comes out soggy, remove the children and beat them)
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  How many of you had trouble getting or keeping jobs because of JW schedule?

  by puffthedragon in

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  before i acquired a skill, i worked retail.

  like many jobs that work non-traditional hours, when you apply for a job in retail or a restaurant or something, you have to tell them what hours you are available to work.

  now most people looking for a job, unless they are in school or something, are available to work whenever the job requires.

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  This is especially true with Walmart, which maintains an open availability policy (you belong to Walmart).

  Not to derail this thread but that was one aspect of them (Wal-mart) that I hated most. I am glad I no longer have to work for them but there are a lot of people I know (my mom included) who still do. Many of them on my wife's side of the family and as a result, they are indeed weak witnesses. My mother-in-law draws disability so she gets to pio-sneer all she wants. What a truly excellent example of a GREAT CHRISTIAN! Don't work, live off disability, and serve JEHOVAH.

  I guess only people like me (who sees the hypocrisy in the whole 'God will provide' argument) can see why witnesses should not take this too seriously.
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  How many of you had trouble getting or keeping jobs because of JW schedule?

  by puffthedragon in

  1. jw
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  before i acquired a skill, i worked retail.

  like many jobs that work non-traditional hours, when you apply for a job in retail or a restaurant or something, you have to tell them what hours you are available to work.

  now most people looking for a job, unless they are in school or something, are available to work whenever the job requires.

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  I had encountered something similar when I used to attend a church that absolutely demanded that we be present for Sunday morning, Sunday night, and Wednesday night services. I recall trying to state on my application that I needed Sundays off and Wednesday nights off. Many restaurant and retail jobs expected people to work on Sundays so that did not always go well.

  The church would say that if we were really following God that He would provide the necessary job but I always found it hypocritical of them to go shop for groceries or eat out at restaurants on Sundays after church. I mean, someone had to work to provide those services to them (and don't give me that worldly people doing it crap, what if all people went to churches like ours? Where would they go then?)

  The last straw was when I recall going with my uncle, after attending his IFB church, to do a delivery job at a bottling plant. I asked him, "I thought Christians aren't suppose to work on Sunday?" He basically weaseled his way out by saying sometimes you had to do what you had to do. Right, I thought and it was not long after that I decided to make a way for myself and stop limiting myself by their assinine rules.
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  This site: Jehovah's Witnesses refute! Deals with apostate accusations

  by Terry in

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  jehovah's witnesses refute!

  nederlandse versie.

  "the heart of the righteous one.

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  Hey, is this the e-watchman?
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  This is harder than I thought...

  by SophieG in

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  ok....i am trying to go inactive to fade.

  however all my family is in, except for one relative.

  i cannot move away.

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  You are in a bad predicament but if you really wish to bring this up to your family, perhaps you can show them an article that appeared in the July 2009 Awake article "Is It Wrong To Change Your Religion?".
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  Protesters at conventions / assemblies...

  by garyneal in

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  first off, i can happily say that this year i did not attend a single day at this years district convention.. on saturday during the convention, my wife asked me to drop her off after lunch and later pick her up when the convention was over.

  while i was dropping her off, i noticed a single individual holding picket signs protesting the convention.

  it said things like, "was the ransom sacrifice worth it?

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  @trailerfitter

  I am doing good, thanks for asking.

  I've seen that you are not doing so well, I am sorry to hear that. The advice people have been giving you here is good. Just continue to be a good father to your kids and let the wife act out.

  I think for us, we're doing okay because while she and I are both still believers and have an attachment to our faith, we're also both skeptics now. We talk a lot about the deep questions of faith and find that we can trust each other in ways we cannot trust our other 'fellow believers.'
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  Protesters at conventions / assemblies...

  by garyneal in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  first off, i can happily say that this year i did not attend a single day at this years district convention.. on saturday during the convention, my wife asked me to drop her off after lunch and later pick her up when the convention was over.

  while i was dropping her off, i noticed a single individual holding picket signs protesting the convention.

  it said things like, "was the ransom sacrifice worth it?

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  Thanks for all your comments. I suppose I could see it both ways as some of the points argued both ways. One site leads to another and then another and so forth. That 4Jehovah.org site, for example, leads to freeminds.org if you start digging in for old JW literature (at least it did for me).

  I suppose it is all perspective, but I think we can all universally agree that the protestor illustrated in that video post wasn't helping anyone with his screaming. I would've been uncomfortable going by him myself as a mere passerby let alone a witness who attended that convention.

  The protestors at my wife's convention wasn't shouting or screaming, just simply holding up the signs. I stopped by one and asked her to show me the signs. Then I commented that I recognized two of the websites (the carm site and the 4jehovah one) and I think she also had a link to towerwatch.com (or something). Another protestor had a sign that asked about hell being real.
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  Protesters at conventions / assemblies...

  by garyneal in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  first off, i can happily say that this year i did not attend a single day at this years district convention.. on saturday during the convention, my wife asked me to drop her off after lunch and later pick her up when the convention was over.

  while i was dropping her off, i noticed a single individual holding picket signs protesting the convention.

  it said things like, "was the ransom sacrifice worth it?

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  garyneal

  First off, I can happily say that this year I did not attend a single day at this years District Convention.

  On Saturday during the convention, my wife asked me to drop her off after lunch and later pick her up when the convention was over. While I was dropping her off, I noticed a single individual holding picket signs protesting the convention. It said things like, "Was the ransom sacrifice worth it?" and gave links to various websites. Two of them I recognized were http://www.4jehovah.org/ and http://www.carm.org.

  Recognizing that these were Christian based websites made me wonder who amongst the witnesses that would even bother to look up those websites would be swayed by them. I found in the past that witnesses simply believed that they had the correct Bible interpretations and would often ignore or try to counter other interpretations (leading to Bible ping pong). I figured, though I could be wrong, that these protesters would've been more effective with links to jwfacts or freeminds and other websites that tend to hang the watchtower with their own words.

  What do you all think?