Posts by garyneal

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Visit From Jehovah's Witnesses

by Vanderhoven7 in

had two lovely jws (stephen and ruth) visit this morning.

this was our second study in the last 2 weeks.

they first knocked on my door (bell is out) 3 weeks ago and i shared my testimony and we arranged to meet last tuesday which we did.. our first study went like this:.

garyneal

I have to admit that I feel similarly to some of the individuals who responded to the atheists who immediately went on the attack to Vanderhoven7's original post. While I can see their reasoning, I can also see it as being a bit discouraging. When I came on this board 7 years ago, I was very much a true Bible believing Christian who had just learned about the false teachings of the JWs. I remember receiving a lot of support from this group, even from the individuals who were atheists.

This group was very much more a diverse group of theists and non-theists than what I see today. I think if I had found this board the way it is now back when I first joined, I doubt I would've stayed long enough to eventually begin to question my own belief system.

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Visit From Jehovah's Witnesses

by Vanderhoven7 in

had two lovely jws (stephen and ruth) visit this morning.

this was our second study in the last 2 weeks.

they first knocked on my door (bell is out) 3 weeks ago and i shared my testimony and we arranged to meet last tuesday which we did.. our first study went like this:.

garyneal

It do seem like a waste of time trying to witness to a Jehovah's Witness. I'm astonished that Stephan was not the least bit interested in literature from 1995 and the flippant way he said, "We don't believe that anymore." How can a religion say they have the truth then say, "We don't believe that anymore?" I wonder if he realizes that the implication is that his religion was teaching something false by his statements? I wonder if he can think it through and ask, "How do I know if they are not teaching something false now?"

Then his statement about other churches and how the witnesses are not the only true religion? He really seems like more of a social witness than someone who cares about their dogma.

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Mouthy has Passed Away

by Simon in

jw
friends

update on mouthy (grace gough)this is graces granddaughter.

i wanted to send an update that today my beautiful grandmother passed away - surrounded by friends and family.

- may 22 1927 - sept 2nd 2016. mouthys_granddaughter.

garyneal

I come to this forum for some time to see if she still posts. So sad to see this post.

She was indeed a truly special lady.

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Reading The Bible Again After Leaving

by pale.emperor in

at the moment i dont beleive in anything.

im pretty much an open book, but my critical mind is very alert to bullshit.

but anyway i decided to re-read the bible with a non jw filter.. i researched online first which is supposed to be the best translation out there.

garyneal

Have you heard of the e-watchman? He attempts to answer some objections a former JW found in the Bible using his WT goggles and gets it royally wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgkIx7wdaiw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR6JxVLnVyU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy8oir3BwtM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veqbxwlY8nA

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[Generic evolution vs. creation thread]

by sir82 in

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friends

to save us all a lot of time and effort..... [some complex structure in living organisms described].

[i can't imagine how this could be the product of evolution].

[therefore god created it].

garyneal

https://usercontent2.hubstatic.com/12369491_f520.jpg

http://memecrunch.com/meme/GKCY/ray-comfort/image.jpg

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[Generic evolution vs. creation thread]

by sir82 in

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friends

to save us all a lot of time and effort..... [some complex structure in living organisms described].

[i can't imagine how this could be the product of evolution].

[therefore god created it].

garyneal

Scientists have been looking for transitional fossil and if you find one of these you will win a nobel prize.

http://img09.deviantart.net/81d6/i/2009/268/6/e/kirk_cameron_poster_by_glorfon.jpg

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D-Wave Founder Eric Ladizinsky - The Coming Quantum Computing Revolution

by Brokeback Watchtower in

i wonder how many doublings moore's law will keep happening now that we have begun quantum computing?.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omn4mc_21xe.

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/mooreslaw.asp.

garyneal

I did a paper on something like this in my summer semester class at college and from my research I think the most likely thing that will happen is that Moore's Law will be expanded to mean something like devices will double in speed and storage capacity as opposed to the number of transistors per square inch.

The observation made in 1965 by Gordon Moore, co-founder of Intel, that the number of transistors per square inch on integrated circuits had doubled every year since the integrated circuit was invented. Moore predicted that this trend would continue for the foreseeable future. In subsequent years, the pace slowed down a bit, but data density has doubled approximately every 18 months, and this is the current definition of Moore's Law, which Moore himself has blessed. Most experts, including Moore himself, expect Moore's Law to hold for at least another two decades.

Source: http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/M/Moores_Law.html

Emphasis Mine

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What Songs Best Fit you when you learned TATT and Afterwards?

by Wasanelder Once in

the work of john lennon best fit my situation.

first, i found out.

i found out.

garyneal

I imagined myself as being like Hanna Montana who was a normal kid during the day and a country star too. I was like this Christian and a JW too. Then like Miley, I had to choose one so I discovered Ttatt and rejected the witnesses.

Later as I learned more about Christianity a few songs resonated with me.

Freedom by George Michael

No Such Thing (with some lyric changes)

"I want to run through the halls of my church now, I want to scream at the top of my lungs."

"I just found out there's no such thing as religous truth, just a lie you have rise above."

Also Reach out and touch faith by Depeche Mode

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What is the alternative to JW?

by Formerbrother in

i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

the the bible is word?

garyneal

I looked at some of your previous posts and you don't seem too interested in seeking this altrrnative. If you're so convinced that the JWs are most correct then why bother looking?

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What is the alternative to JW?

by Formerbrother in

i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

the the bible is word?

garyneal

You cant just say logic or the Bible, or Jesus, OK all these things are good, so if not JWs then which option is nearest to these things?

I did not read all 46 pages but I can offer a few suggestions based on a few questions. My apologies for repeating anything.

Do you still prefer Arian Christology over Trinitarian Christology? If so then there may not be too many options since most Protestant churches are largely Trinitarian. I would seek out former witnesses who are Christian. There are some splinter groups from the witnesses. Two that come to mind are The Lord's Witnesses and The International Bible Students Association (yes the original Russelite bible students).

The Christadelphians also believe similar to the witnesses and some even believe that the witnesses stole a lot their theology from them.

Of course, good luck finding these groups locally since the religions are very small but look into them to see if they match your beliefs and values.

Religious affiliation is really about seeking others with similar values and beliefs to your own. There is no absolute truth in terms of religious beliefs.