Posts by garyneal

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84 Lumber Commercial

by azor in

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just saw this commercial and was very impressed.

hoping more companies start doing the same.

most of us are immigrants.

garyneal

I watched that commercial for context and I have always wondered this about the people who go to great lengths to cross the border into the US illegally from Mexico.

Why are they trying so hard to come to America?
Are things really THAT BAD in Mexico that they have no choice but to flee?
If so, why aren't they pressing for change for the better within the country of Mexico?
In short, why aren't they fixing their own country?

I look at it like this, I can respect people who flee their native home to find opportunity elsewhere. I did it myself when I left my dying manufacturing town to find a better opportunity for myself and my family in a city 250 miles away. But what if the jobs dried up entirely within the US and my only choice was to leave for another country. Could I easily move in or would I need to go through their immigration process?

For the people of Mexico who insist that the US should just welcome anyone in with open arms, does Mexico do this? Can someone from Central and South America come across Mexico's border the way Mexicans want to come across USA's border? If not, then why should America be so accommodating?

We're all immigrants and the latest arrivals, just like the earlier ones, are here to stay. Love it!!!

Oh, this tired old argument again. This argument could be made for every sovereign nation on this planet. If you go back far enough in history every piece of land that eventually became a sovereign nation is made up of immigrants. I recall learning in history class that even native americans came from ancestors who immigrated across the Bering Strait. Can I just move into any other sovereign country? No? Then why are we being told that we should just let anyone in America, a sovereign country?

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Trinity...cross...Does it matter?

by NikL in

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i've been thinking about this for a while.. did jesus diee on a cross?

does it really matter?

it doesn't change anything that i can see.. is god a trinity?

garyneal

What do you think?

I am pretty much in agreement in that there doesn't seem to be a real reason why Christians needed to make such distinctions. In regards to the way Jesus died, if the whole point was that He died and rose again to cover the sins of humanity then did it matter whether or not it was on the cross, a stake, or by stoning? The point is, He died and rose again.

In regards to the Trinity, no one really understands that so I don't get why it is so important when even Christians who insist on it do not make it the primary focus of the salvation message. When I became a born again believer, I was simply told about man's sin, God's grace, and our acceptance of Jesus' sacrifice.

Knowing what I know now, I know the Trinity teaching was a later Christian addition in order to explain how Jesus could be God while at the same time Yahweh can be God while maintaining monotheism.

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So, the Womens March ... What Is It For?

by Simon in

it seems like mobilizing after the election, which seems pointless.

i keep hearing demands for equal rights but don't understand what rights they are missing exactly.. normally a march is to show the support (and potential votes) for a cause, but ... votes for what?

... and the election happened already.. is anyone else confused?

garyneal

I still think that whole march was pointless but let these women go out and dress as vaginas if they wish.

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the-question (607 BCE explained and proved)

by pleaseresearch in

so a user named "the-question" said the jw's were right about 607 bce.. this is your chance brother to prove us all wrong.. we all can't wait to hear from you :).

garyneal

Every historian specializing in that time period agrees on the range 586 - 587 BC for the destruction of Jerusalem. Every. Single. One.

Indeed, and every church I ever attended accepts the dates promoted by the historians. Even my annotated copy of the King James Bible uses these dates concerning the passages that speak of this. Meanwhile, the WT provides not a single positive piece of evidence to support 607 BCE. Just a passage of scripture that does not take into account to two extra years (as pointed out earlier). The rest of their "proof" is simply them trying to call doubt on the evidence that supports 586/7 BCE.

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No Longer a JW Expert But Starting to Figure Out Life

by AllTimeJeff in

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consider this an update for those that remember me here.... when i left in 2006, it started a 10 year journey into a new phase.

no more "safety".

some people want to be their own person.

garyneal

Hello Jeff,

I remember you back when you were still posting here back in 2009. Good to see you back even if it is only to pop in and say hi.

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So, the Womens March ... What Is It For?

by Simon in

it seems like mobilizing after the election, which seems pointless.

i keep hearing demands for equal rights but don't understand what rights they are missing exactly.. normally a march is to show the support (and potential votes) for a cause, but ... votes for what?

... and the election happened already.. is anyone else confused?

garyneal

The irony is that Trump may ultimately do more for overall womens rights than Obama / Clinton ever did if he's willing to put a stop to it rather than just taking the money and keeping it going (what Clinton was doing).

This was one of the major reasons why Trump was elected, at least for those who understood the dangers of allowing Muslim migrants into our country. And yes, I know, not all Muslims, yada yada yada. When the Pulse night club shooting happened, Clinton and Obama could not even say that it had anything to do with radical Islam. It was all about the guns. As Sam Harris pointed out, "...that was unforgivably stupid."

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So, the Womens March ... What Is It For?

by Simon in

it seems like mobilizing after the election, which seems pointless.

i keep hearing demands for equal rights but don't understand what rights they are missing exactly.. normally a march is to show the support (and potential votes) for a cause, but ... votes for what?

... and the election happened already.. is anyone else confused?

garyneal

Thanks Simon for starting this topic. We have someone in our neighborhood who took her child out of school on Friday and traveled to Washington for this ridiculous march. I was asking the same question, what's the point, the election is over, what rights do they think they are going to lose?

The minute Trump even tried to overturn Roe v Wade (assuming there is a way he can actually overturn a Supreme Court decision) the hysteria would be massive. Even conservatives are okay with abortion under a variety of circumstances and I suspect most of the populace are not going to allow this to go through.

What about other women's rights? Assuming that this man is truly a misogynistic overload who truly sees women as second class citizens (as these women make him out to be) does anyone really think that he has a ghost of a chance of taking away any rights?

But hey, with the Islamization of the west currently going on women will lose their rights eventually if this does not stop.

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2017 JWN Christmas Card Exchange

by blondie in

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in years gone by i have organized and coordinated this.

pm me if you want to be added to the list giving me your snail mail address and/or your e-mail for those with tech skills and a safe e-mail.. do this by december 14, and i will pm the list to each person on it.

latecomers will be added but you may not get it by christmas.

garyneal

OTWO, just have them sent to your place of employment if that is not against the rules, or open up a mail box just for this (don't know how much that is).

I think I actually did that the first time I signed up. I was unsure about sharing my personal address back then.

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2017 JWN Christmas Card Exchange

by blondie in

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friends

in years gone by i have organized and coordinated this.

pm me if you want to be added to the list giving me your snail mail address and/or your e-mail for those with tech skills and a safe e-mail.. do this by december 14, and i will pm the list to each person on it.

latecomers will be added but you may not get it by christmas.

garyneal

The title says 2017, did you mean 2016? Add me to the list. I'll PM you my address. I may also recycle my prior lists for previous years.

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Election Post-Mortem

by Simon in

i'm sure many people, republicans included, are shocked at the results of the 2016 presidential election.

really, wtf!.

the polls were wrong and although it's tempting to blame voter suppression and fbi interference, that would just avoid looking at the real issues for the loss.

garyneal

If you do not understand this video then you have no clue why Trump won.

https://youtu.be/YY-CiPVo_NQ

To paraphrase Michael Moore, "The enemy of my enemy is who I voted for on November 8th." This includes the elitists and all the regressives.