Posts by Jankyn

Make sure you "baptize" the bike's tires in both oceans, too! (And have fun!) Jankyn, who only rides to the library, the swimming pool and the coffee shop

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Who Was Your All Time Favorite Mod Here?

by minimus in

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were you ever a mod min?

Jankyn

Scully, Lady Lee. Fair and firm. I like that in a mod--which basically means I like 'em all, but those are the two that come to mind. Jankyn.

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 08-17-08 WT Study (PURSUE)

by blondie in

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comments you will not hear at the 08-17-08 wt study (june 15, 2008, pages 11-15)(pursue).

review comments will be in red.

wt material from today's wt will be in black.

Thank you, Blondie. My mother and aunt are coming to visit this week. Forewarned is forearmed--it helps if I know what's fresh in their mind, because that's the only thing they want to talk about. Since I've been in the business world, I've met a number of people who simply parrot whatever the last thing they heard is--I finally recognized that the reason it makes me so uncomfortable is because it's the rule for my JW family. Whatever the last thing they heard at a meeting is, that's what they talk about until the next meeting. Jankyn

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To Quit or Control it....Drinking that is....Who has succeeded and how?

by oompa in

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thinking about just giving it up....i always revert back to a nightly habit.....and the occasasinal big escape into the bottle.

but of course you can't live there, and it fixes nothing.. because i think i do have a problem, i went to some aa meetings and found them to be too much like wt.

if alcholism is a true disease, then why is it the only one that needs god (or a higher power to cure (or cope with).

Jankyn

I haven't had a drink in more than 21 years, I'm in AA and I'm an atheist.(AA doesn't say you have to believe in God. It does say that you need to find "a power greater than yourself that will solve your problems." In my case, that power greater than myself is the principles (honesty, unselfishness, responsibility), combined with the support and fellowship I find in AA.[p] And yes, I have been (at times) more than a bit put off by the "God-talk" in AA. I just remember that it's a metaphor that works for some people. I don't have to buy it; I have to find my own path. [p] Frankly, whatever you try last is invariably what works--that's why it was the last thing! So just keep trying until your find the approach that's right for you. [p] I know people who have found their solution in church, in therapy, and in what we used to call "will power." Doesn't matter what it is--just don't stop trying. [p] As for "controlled drinking": I think (based on my observations, so this is anecdotal, not scientific) that some folks who have not yet become full-blown alcoholics can stop or moderate their drinking with varying degrees of personal effort, if they're motivated enough. [I]However[/I], for drunks like me--people who routinely drank to escape dealing with their feelings, people who routinely drank themselves to sleep, people who relied on alcohol to dull the world--abstinence may be the only answer. [p] Jankyn AND HAVE I MENTIONED THAT I HATE FIREFOX...IT WON'T LET ME FORMAT MY POSTS!!!

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Hot Food at the DCs past...What was it like?

by bronzefist in

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i came in to the "loving" organization when they had the nasty cold food so i dont know how good the hot cooked food was.

my ex says it was pretty good, but should i have belived her?

i would think hot food made for a happier time at least for the eaters.. brzfst.

Jankyn

(Showing my age) The international convention in BC in 1969 had the huge, trestle tables in one of the "cafeterias" (actually, a tent set up on a parking lot). I was 9, and my mother was wrangling me, my 8-year-old brother, and my baby brother (who was still in diapers). There was no way she could feed us all at once, and I was trying to be patient, buuuuut... Then a brother from Africa (there was a group of them, all wearing their "traditional" garb, to the delight of the rest of the conventioneers--brightly colored dashikis) scooped me up and held me so that I could eat my breakfast. Of course, I was too entranced by him to eat much, but of course my mother pointed out that it was how "wonderful the Truth is" that a guy from Africa would stop to help a woman feed her kids. I wonder now if he was hoping for an American wife with a citizenship ticket? Ah, well. It was fun. The conversion to cold food in the late 70s-early 80s was a bummer. One of the fondest memories I have is of the snacks at the summer assemblies, like sno-cones (shaved ice with sickly-sweet coloring squirted on them). But the best of all: a half-cantaloupe, with the center scooped out and a scoop of vanilla ice cream inserted. I suspect that people were having waaaay too much fun at assemblies back in the day. Frankly, the stories of you folks from the 80s and 90s are depressing. I didn't mind assemblies at all. Jankyn

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How Many Here Still Attend Meetings Sometimes?

by shamus100 in

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if so, how often.. do you still attend the memorial?.

i never go, ever, and haven't been to a memorial in about 6 years (been too long to accurately remember) - i'm too far gone.

Jankyn

I started cutting back on meetings as a teen, roughly 1976 (I got a driver's license and started working--I'd volunteer for the shifts that conflicted with meetings). Last memorial was 1979. Last time in a KH was May of 1980, for a funeral. Last DC was July 1980. So basically, other than conversations with relatives and reading the lit to keep up with their craziness, I've been out for 28 years.

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From BlackChristianNews.com...

by Jankyn in

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...here's their take on how jehovah's witnesses and mormons stack up to regular ol' evangelical christians:

http://www.blackchristiannews.com/christian/jehovahs-witness-mormons-differ-vastly-from-born-again-christians.htmljehovah's witnesses, mormons differ vastly from born-again christians

jehovahs witnesses and mormons, groups that consider themselves christians but are labeled by many as cults, differ vastly from the born-again population when it comes to core christian doctrines, according to a new survey released monday.

Jankyn

Okay, I give up. This is the first time I've tried to post since I switched to Firefox. Is that the problem?

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From BlackChristianNews.com...

by Jankyn in

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...here's their take on how jehovah's witnesses and mormons stack up to regular ol' evangelical christians:

http://www.blackchristiannews.com/christian/jehovahs-witness-mormons-differ-vastly-from-born-again-christians.htmljehovah's witnesses, mormons differ vastly from born-again christians

jehovahs witnesses and mormons, groups that consider themselves christians but are labeled by many as cults, differ vastly from the born-again population when it comes to core christian doctrines, according to a new survey released monday.

Jankyn

Okay, the formatting on this is funky and and I can't get it fixed in the original. I'm trying again.
Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons Differ Vastly from Born-Again Christians
Jehovah’s Witnesses and Mormons, groups that consider themselves Christians but are labeled by many as cults, differ vastly from the born-again population when it comes to core Christian doctrines, according to a new survey released Monday. The only belief that Witnesses share in the same degree with born-again Christians is that their religious faith is very important in their life, reported The Barna Group. Nine out of 10 people from both groups held this view. But beyond this commonality, the two groups parted ways and differed on all the other criteria for being born-again. Only seven percent of Jehovah’s Witnesses meet the requirements, according to the survey.
Born-again Christians are defined by Barna as people who said they have made a personal commitment to Jesus Christ that is still important in their life today and who also indicated they believe that when they die they will go to heaven because they had confessed their sins and had accepted Jesus Christ as their savior.
Most Witnesses say they have made a personal commitment to Jesus Christ that is important in their life, but only one out of every 10 of those adults base their hope of salvation on a confession of sins and acceptance of Christ as their savior. But Witnesses are also significantly more likely than born-again adults to reject the idea of salvation earned through good works.
Additionally, 61 percent of Jehovah’s Witnesses, compared to 42 percent of born-agains, strongly believe that Satan exists. They are also more likely than born-again adults to argue that Jesus Christ lived a sinless life on earth (77 percent versus 63 percent).
In comparison, Mormons have more similar views with born-again Christians. One-third of Mormons meet the born-again criteria, but some evangelical leaders argue that Mormons’ refusal to trust wholly on God’s grace and forgiveness through Christ as the only means to salvation disqualifies them from being born-again. A majority of Mormons believes that a good person can earn their way into heaven.
More than nine out of 10 Mormons have made a personal commitment to Jesus Christ that they describe as being important in their life; nine out of 10 say their religious faith is very important in their life; two-thirds affirm the sinless life of Christ on earth; and more than half believe that Satan exists.
"All three of these groups claim to be Christian, uphold the importance of faith and spirituality, are active in their churches, generally believe in the same God, and accept the holiness of Jesus Christ," George Barna, director of the survey, commented. "Beyond that, there are huge differences related to central doctrines such as the means to eternal salvation or the reliability and authority of the Bible.”
In other findings, 74 percent of Jehovah’s Witnesses and 64 percent of Mormons say they have a personal responsibility to share their faith with others have a strong conviction that witnessing with others is a personal responsibility while 54 percent of all born-agains share that same conviction. Also, 88 percent of Witnesses believe that the Bible is completely accurate in all of its teachings compared to 71 percent of born-agains. Relatively few Mormons believe that the Bible is totally accurate (32 percent).
In terms of faith practices, Jehovah’s Witnesses are twice as likely to gather in small groups during the week (75 percent) and significantly more likely to read the Bible during the week (83 percent) than born-again Christians. At the same time, they are also more than twice as likely to be unchurched at the moment (28 percent).
Mormons are more likely than born-again Christians to attend church services in a given week (73 percent) and to volunteer at their church.
The report is based on telephone interviews from a nationwide random sample of adults. Interviews with 323 Mormons and 186 Jehovah’s Witnesses were isolated for analysis.

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From BlackChristianNews.com...

by Jankyn in

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...here's their take on how jehovah's witnesses and mormons stack up to regular ol' evangelical christians:

http://www.blackchristiannews.com/christian/jehovahs-witness-mormons-differ-vastly-from-born-again-christians.htmljehovah's witnesses, mormons differ vastly from born-again christians

jehovahs witnesses and mormons, groups that consider themselves christians but are labeled by many as cults, differ vastly from the born-again population when it comes to core christian doctrines, according to a new survey released monday.

Jankyn

...here's their take on how Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons stack up to regular ol' evangelical Christians: http://www.blackchristiannews.com/christian/Jehovahs-witness-mormons-differ-vastly-from-born-again-christians.htmlJehovah's Witnesses, Mormons Differ Vastly from Born-Again Christians Jehovah’s Witnesses and Mormons, groups that consider themselves Christians but are labeled by many as cults, differ vastly from the born-again population when it comes to core Christian doctrines, according to a new survey released Monday. The only belief that Witnesses share in the same degree with born-again Christians is that their religious faith is very important in their life, reported The Barna Group. Nine out of 10 people from both groups held this view. But beyond this commonality, the two groups parted ways and differed on all the other criteria for being born-again. Only seven percent of Jehovah’s Witnesses meet the requirements, according to the survey. Born-again Christians are defined by Barna as people who said they have made a personal commitment to Jesus Christ that is still important in their life today and who also indicated they believe that when they die they will go to heaven because they had confessed their sins and had accepted Jesus Christ as their savior. Most Witnesses say they have made a personal commitment to Jesus Christ that is important in their life, but only one out of every 10 of those adults base their hope of salvation on a confession of sins and acceptance of Christ as their savior. But Witnesses are also significantly more likely than born-again adults to reject the idea of salvation earned through good works. Additionally, 61 percent of Jehovah’s Witnesses, compared to 42 percent of born-agains, strongly believe that Satan exists. They are also more likely than born-again adults to argue that Jesus Christ lived a sinless life on earth (77 percent versus 63 percent). In comparison, Mormons have more similar views with born-again Christians. One-third of Mormons meet the born-again criteria, but some evangelical leaders argue that Mormons’ refusal to trust wholly on God’s grace and forgiveness through Christ as the only means to salvation disqualifies them from being born-again. A majority of Mormons believes that a good person can earn their way into heaven. More than nine out of 10 Mormons have made a personal commitment to Jesus Christ that they describe as being important in their life; nine out of 10 say their religious faith is very important in their life; two-thirds affirm the sinless life of Christ on earth; and more than half believe that Satan exists. "All three of these groups claim to be Christian, uphold the importance of faith and spirituality, are active in their churches, generally believe in the same God, and accept the holiness of Jesus Christ," George Barna, director of the survey, commented. "Beyond that, there are huge differences related to central doctrines such as the means to eternal salvation or the reliability and authority of the Bible.” In other findings, 74 percent of Jehovah’s Witnesses and 64 percent of Mormons say they have a personal responsibility to share their faith with others have a strong conviction that witnessing with others is a personal responsibility while 54 percent of all born-agains share that same conviction. Also, 88 percent of Witnesses believe that the Bible is completely accurate in all of its teachings compared to 71 percent of born-agains. Relatively few Mormons believe that the Bible is totally accurate (32 percent). In terms of faith practices, Jehovah’s Witnesses are twice as likely to gather in small groups during the week (75 percent) and significantly more likely to read the Bible during the week (83 percent) than born-again Christians. At the same time, they are also more than twice as likely to be unchurched at the moment (28 percent). Mormons are more likely than born-again Christians to attend church services in a given week (73 percent) and to volunteer at their church. The report is based on telephone interviews from a nationwide random sample of adults. Interviews with 323 Mormons and 186 Jehovah’s Witnesses were isolated for analysis.