Posts by xelder

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Is a child up for adoption supposed to promise love & respect to the potential father?

by discreetslave in

tuesday, october 4. offer your very selves to him: a living sacrifice, dedicated and fit for his acceptance.rom.

12:1, the new english bible.. before someone who is alienated from god can become a member of gods family of approved servants, he first needs to make a solemn promise to jehovah.

to understand why, imagine a respectable father who shows kind interest in an orphaned youth and wishes to adopt him as a member of his own family.

xelder

The father image. Any illustration about God as a father misses me. I'm a father and grandfather; not the best ever, and it continues to be a learning experience.

I want my children to love me. But......if I had to choose:

1. By an action of mine, I can provide for my childrens' happiness and well being, but they will never understand and will hate me.

or

2. They will think I'm wonderful, but have extremely difficult lives.

I choose number one....I think most parents would. The WTS has always been run by men who never had children and any illustration they come up with proves it. They are very often idiots.

As far as God using the illustration in scripture....I can't wrap my head around it

It was Like Collecting Baseball Cards.....only GB

by xelder in

in the old days the top guys in the org were famous.. i was such a organization man (sorry but true).

i knew org stats and figures and who's who like crazy!!

if they would have had trading cards i would have had a pile (shame).. knorr, franz, etc were lost.

xelder

In the old days the Top Guys in the Org were famous.

I was such a organization man (sorry but true). I knew org stats and figures and who's who like crazy!! If they would have had trading cards I would have had a pile (shame).

Knorr, Franz, etc were lost. But, today, the GB have lost a lot of the status. Few know them. People love to know the leaders they follow, to see "Moses" on the mountain. Hopefully, this will allow more to leave.

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JW's - Hard to admit that much of life was a waste

by xelder in

from my observations, i think many (especially older) jw's hold through the stupid doctrinal changes because they can't admit the alternative.. i had wished the jw kingdom hope was true, i needed it to be true.

i'm 5th generation and my parents, grandparents, great grand.....ect needed it to be true.

i have watched many "faithful" relatives hang on and die disappointed.

xelder

From my observations, I think many (especially older) JW's hold through the stupid doctrinal changes because they can't admit the alternative.

I had wished the JW kingdom hope was true, I needed it to be true. I'm 5th generation and my parents, grandparents, great grand.....ect needed it to be true. I have watched many "faithful" relatives hang on and die disappointed. But our false hopes and needs have nothing to do with reality. It was hard to accept that, but I did.

I see my younger relatives in there 20's. Some barely attend anymore, some are pioneering with their little children. One passed up a better job to not miss meetings. >sigh<

The GB, DO's, CO's all honor the traditions of the Organization because it is too scary to face the fact that much of their life was spent for nothing. Popularity (peer pressure) is a great motivator. The GB gets comfort from 7 million followers ..."see...lot's of others think we are right". But many of these high level leaders know better, or at least should suspect something wrong, be brave and invetigate and take action. But that would mean admitting that their heroes (CTRussel, JFR, Knorr, Freddie) were wrong. Who wants to give up on their heroes?

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Were any of you anointed?

by TimothyT in

did any of you feel that mystical force telling you that you were of the anointed class?.

what did it feel like?

was it real?

xelder

I was considering being annointed as an alternative job skill.

If I run out of work, I can partake, pioneer, and make GB within a few years

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How many of you were in Dramas at the D.C. ?

by drewcoul in

do you remember what the drama was?

what role did you play?

what is preparation like?

xelder

I was recommended to direct a drama once, but I wasn't chosen. I was disappointed. (How Silly it seems now)

I never did a baptism talk either. I was always disappointed with that too (what a sorry looser....haha). Now I'm glad I never contributed to one of those stupid baptisms. (except for my own, a couple bible studies. and my 2 kids....who are now aware of the WTS crap)

I always had to do complex parts, lots of demonstrations, lots of rehearsals....what a waste.

thanks for making me remember the wasted years...lol...can I go have a nice Friday now?

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JWs and hard times

by xelder in

the developed world is having hard economic times.

so, for a while now jw's have been voicing the familiar "it can't go on...things are so hard".

i'm in the usa, and the economics are tough, relative to this country.

xelder

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Field Service time wasters

by xelder in

last saturday morning, i ran to the hardware store.

a former co (retired in a circuit provided house) was in the hardware store.

i stopped at starbucks....more jw's.

xelder

you are right James

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Field Service time wasters

by xelder in

last saturday morning, i ran to the hardware store.

a former co (retired in a circuit provided house) was in the hardware store.

i stopped at starbucks....more jw's.

xelder

Last Saturday morning, I ran to the hardware store. A former CO (retired in a circuit provided house) was in the hardware store. I stopped at Starbucks....more JW's. I got gas at the Chevron and looked inside the McDonald's and saw 4 elders having coffee.

It's the typical act I remember. Meet at 9:30 am, text and chat, out the door around 10:15. Do a Charlie call, coffee or errands at 11:00. Home at noon.

I really admire their whole-souled service to their God. In the business world, we would fire them.

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JWs and hard times

by xelder in

the developed world is having hard economic times.

so, for a while now jw's have been voicing the familiar "it can't go on...things are so hard".

i'm in the usa, and the economics are tough, relative to this country.

xelder

The developed world is having hard economic times. So, for a while now JW's have been voicing the familiar "it can't go on...things are so hard". I'm in the USA, and the economics are tough, relative to this country. But we are far above the conditions in most of the world through most of history. The convenient line of the JW is "the end is close because it's hard". Haha....tell that to a person in a third world country.

It's been a while since I heard "things are so smooth....peace and security. It must be close since things are so good"

Either way, they have a line to use. But they howl more when things are hurting. Too bad the GB has left so many with little retirement and no skills.

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My father's funeral

by jwfacts in

last week i attended my father's funeral in hobart.

i was the first time i have been in a kingdom hall in several years, and many years since i had attended the hall of my childhood, but felt like it was just yesterday.

the funeral talk was quite a departure from normal, so worth writing about.

xelder

You and your father sound like fine men.

Thanks for your thoughts, both here and your website. You have been very helpful