Balaam and his Ass pictures who?
xelder
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Balaam...Still my favorite Allegory ...thx Sherri Jansma
by xelder inbalaam and his ass pictures who?.
http://www.freeminds.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=650%3abalaams-ass&catid=106%3asherry-jansma&itemid=661.
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One experience in our old Kingdom Hall that still HAUNTS me
by Newly Enlightened inthe following is a true experience and my daughter gojira101 will verify that it happened to her.
an experience from our family's past that still haunts me and started my questioning whether this is the true organization of god or not.. my daughter, who has always been a good kid, never gave us any problems [she's an adult now] started regular pioneering.
within a few weeks of her starting, she fell on a steep hill and tore open her knee and had to have several stitches.
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xelder
What a difficult time.
The thing is, as an elder at one time, I am sure I made stupid hurtful comments that I regret now. So, I can apologize to you and your daughter for being that type of elder too. I also had hurtful things said to me. But, they are part of what opened my eyes, so I can be thankful in a way I guess. Hope all contunues to brighten for you and your daughter.
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xelder
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I was patient. I waited for them to try to help me with my spirituality. Since at the time they still respected scripture, that was my best tool in explaining the bad policies...DFing, blood, chronology, the rights of conscience.
I would say, "Im not teaching this, but since you asked, I will tell you"
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Summary
8 years ago, My first Grandson Ethan was born.
I also read a blip on the evil internet from Ray Franz book in Search of Christian Freedom. It was about blood. I was researching because my brother was very ill, passed away.
7 years ago, my granddaughter Clara was born and I resigned as an Elder.
5 years ago, I read Crisis of Conscience.
Also my grandson Jonas was born.
4 years ago, as the economy crashed I layed off 90 people.
3 years ago, my granddaughter Ella was born.
Also my wife of 31 years left me.
2 years ago, I began helping my ex with serious depression, alcoholism, 2 DUI's
I also attended my last meeting.
I got my kids out of the borg and all the grandkids :)
1 year ago, my grandson Luke was born.
Even in the midst of pain and change, good things are happening. The future is bright -
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Genesis 3:16 - As to ALL Women... or One Woman? A Favor, Please...
by AGuest inmay you all have peace!.
so, as some of you might know (or discern)... or not... i am not your usual submissive/in subjection kind of girl.
given what some apparently expect of women... as wives, daughters, female friends... and in general... i was curious about the greater fulfillment of genesis 3:16, because many are of the belief that it applies to all women as to all men... (including those that aren't their husbands)... and not the just one being addressed at the time (eve as to adham).. personally, other than paul's position on women teaching in public (which was borne of what was occurring in the region at the time, due to by-then jewish culture and roman occupation)... and peter's admonishment for wives to submit themselves to their own husbands... that i know of nothing that validates a woman being in subjection to anyone other than her own husband, and even then such "subjection" is not puerile or unrestrained (so as to just be a given), but borne of love and respect for her husband (in which case it should not be difficult)... who is obligated to honor her, as well.
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xelder
Hi again Shelby,
I think scripture has been used to influence many. But, my theory is that male domineering attitudes may predate scripture. People will tend to dominate the physically weaker and vulnerable. Not only was he almost always stronger than her, but she had to be pregnant and take care of little ones. This made her (and still does) have to submit to the jerk and his power play. Hebrew culture seems to have been full of this.
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Genesis 3:16 - As to ALL Women... or One Woman? A Favor, Please...
by AGuest inmay you all have peace!.
so, as some of you might know (or discern)... or not... i am not your usual submissive/in subjection kind of girl.
given what some apparently expect of women... as wives, daughters, female friends... and in general... i was curious about the greater fulfillment of genesis 3:16, because many are of the belief that it applies to all women as to all men... (including those that aren't their husbands)... and not the just one being addressed at the time (eve as to adham).. personally, other than paul's position on women teaching in public (which was borne of what was occurring in the region at the time, due to by-then jewish culture and roman occupation)... and peter's admonishment for wives to submit themselves to their own husbands... that i know of nothing that validates a woman being in subjection to anyone other than her own husband, and even then such "subjection" is not puerile or unrestrained (so as to just be a given), but borne of love and respect for her husband (in which case it should not be difficult)... who is obligated to honor her, as well.
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xelder
Howdy Shelby,
Haven"t visited with you since we were at Walnut Creek and met Candice and her mom. Nice to hear from you, hope husband and puppies are well.
Gender aside, abrasive people annoy me. Now I will admit that as a JW all my life, I had extra annoyance with an abrasive female. I don't think that was fair and I try to correct that. I appreciate people who consult, consider other opinions, etc. Now I must also admit that I have been abrasive much more than I care to admit. (Work in progress)
I suppose that some roles require a super confident "A" type personality. (A Fighter pilot has to believe in himself, and so his or her strong personality fits a purpose I suppose.)
My source is just a sense of community fairness (not biblical). It seems a good goal would be to appreciate the natural gifts that TEND to go with each gender. (TEND ... not stereotyping here) I have certainly met many females over the years who I respect and would not want to have to try to win a match of wits (you included). All that said....US GUYS ARE THE BEST :) :) :)
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Recommended reading for Jehovah's witnesses and friends
by Healthworker inhttp://www.amazon.com/crisis-conscience-raymond-franz/dp/0914675249/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=utf8&qid=1354095941&sr=1-1&keywords=crisis+of+conscience.
http://www.amazon.com/search-christian-freedom-raymond-franz/dp/0914675176/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=utf8&qid=1354095976&sr=1-1&keywords=in+search+of+christian+freedom.
http://www.amazon.com/combatting-cult-mind-control-best-selling/dp/0892813113/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=utf8&qid=1354096024&sr=1-1&keywords=combating+cult+mind+control.
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xelder
HOT ITEM !!!!
In my personal opinion, a fine first read is this out of print book. The "other book" by Carl
http://s98060354.onlinehome.us/BU/The-Sign-of-the-Last-Days-When_1987.pdf
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"The Elders will want to be sure and take the lead in Holiday Witnessing"
by xelder infew things pissed me off more than that manipulative comment in the km every holiday.
so glad to have tomorrow off.
hey fds...piss off.
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xelder
Few things pissed me off more than that manipulative comment in the KM every Holiday. So glad to have tomorrow off. Hey FDS...PISS OFF
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Reasons to fade or not to fade
by gabrielg inlately i've been thinking about fading from the cong but im not sure about what would be the top reason in my list.
without writing 2 page answers, question for anyone posting in repply to this or whoever reads this.
what would be your reason/reasons for fading?
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xelder
My fade, while having great personal cost, SAVED MY FUTURE GENERATIONS. I got my kids out, and grandkids.
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Looking to reconnect with some friends in the San Diego area
by NotAnyMore ini moved to san diego over 10 years ago and was still active at the time.
since that time however, i have executed a nearly perfect fade.
i would like to see if i can get in touch with some of the friends i had made in that short amount of time to see if they are still going or possibly have opened their eyes as well.. i went to the pacific beach congregation for quite some time and also knew/visited several friends in the kearny mesa and spring valley halls.
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xelder
I also have faded. got my kids out too !!! I'm in the Santa Barbara area.
Two wonderful people who helped me are in San Diego http://www.watchtowerworld.org/NilsJansma.htm
They both blog on freeminds.org
Sherri at http://www.freeminds.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=106&Itemid=661
Nils at http://www.freeminds.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=109&Itemid=664
contact me at [email protected]
I finally met them this summer and took them to lunch as a big thank-you.
Wish you the best and welcome !!!
xelder