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  There is science that prove God exists

  by HopeEverLasting in

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  jehovahs witnesses think that just the bible is proof that god exists but they are wrong.

  there is another mode for how he exists.

  now we all know many scientists who are creationists now weren’t creationists until they examined the evidence for themselves.

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  xelder

  on the contrary
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  There is science that prove God exists

  by HopeEverLasting in

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  jehovahs witnesses think that just the bible is proof that god exists but they are wrong.

  there is another mode for how he exists.

  now we all know many scientists who are creationists now weren’t creationists until they examined the evidence for themselves.

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  xelder

  great intelligent come back.....haha
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  There is science that prove God exists

  by HopeEverLasting in

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  jehovahs witnesses think that just the bible is proof that god exists but they are wrong.

  there is another mode for how he exists.

  now we all know many scientists who are creationists now weren’t creationists until they examined the evidence for themselves.

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  xelder

  Yes, there are scientists who believe in divine involvement. Also, there are doctors who get sued for malpractice, and Electricians who die from severe shock. You prove nothing. Don't rely on others education or lack of it. Teach yourself.
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  There is science that prove God exists

  by HopeEverLasting in

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  jehovahs witnesses think that just the bible is proof that god exists but they are wrong.

  there is another mode for how he exists.

  now we all know many scientists who are creationists now weren’t creationists until they examined the evidence for themselves.

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  xelder

  You insist on being ignorant of available facts which may assist you. So....I guess you may as well be proud that you know 1000's of years of unproven superstition.
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  There is science that prove God exists

  by HopeEverLasting in

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  jehovahs witnesses think that just the bible is proof that god exists but they are wrong.

  there is another mode for how he exists.

  now we all know many scientists who are creationists now weren’t creationists until they examined the evidence for themselves.

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  xelder

  hey hope everlasting, at one time it was obvious that flying would never be possible. It was also obvious that there were only 4 elements, fire, water, air, and earth. Your logic is from the same time period. Such arrogance and fear of knowledge stops such ones from learning.
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  I have to vent about someone...

  by babygirl30 in

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  i'm sorry if this comes across as rude or mean, but i'm sorry - not sorry!

  there is a woman that was in my congregation for years.

  she was dating a 'worldly' man at the time and ended up df'd.

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  xelder

  In my opinion, often the motivation of religious people seems to be the security of the herd. The more that others confirm their beliefs, it proves they must be right. Therefore, convincing others matters greatly to them.
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  Crisis of Conscience Update Status

  by blondie in

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  http://www.commentarypress.com/copyright/.

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  xelder

  Exactly Simon.....was just reminding the nice lady of that very point.
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  Crisis of Conscience Update Status

  by blondie in

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  http://www.commentarypress.com/copyright/.

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  xelder

  I agree koncept.....Blondie, The following is also a ridiculous statement submitted as a comparison.

  Blondie, have you ever been a JW elder? No, but you still comment on this board, right?

  Maybe you just had a bad day...thanks for your posts :)

  Sometimes, we forget and act like the JW leadership that we all got away from.
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  Hi everyone!

  by cognac in

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  was just listening to a song that made me think of the jws so thought i'd say hi and see how everyone is.

  i'm doing ok. kids are fine.

  i'm good, making tons of friends, very successful in my career, bla bla bla.

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  xelder

  Glad to hear all is well cognac....

  Signed,

  Mr. Powerful
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  Excuses for God

  by xelder in

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  i am amazed at how people will go to extreme stretches of logic to explain or justify the supposed actions of their god (lower case g intentional, no upper case deserved).

  i have seen people with wonderful bullshit detectors in normal life, throw all of that ability away in order to retain their hope of a creator who cares for them.

  i am agnostic, certainly not atheistic, since i think atheism is not provable.

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  xelder

  I am amazed at how people will go to extreme stretches of logic to explain or justify the supposed actions of their god (lower case g intentional, no upper case deserved). I have seen people with wonderful bullshit detectors in normal life, throw all of that ability away in order to retain their hope of a creator who cares for them. I am agnostic, certainly not atheistic, since I think atheism is not provable. There is no lynch pin (reference to previous post). To me, the Bible is clearly a record of people's attempts to justify their actions and beliefs by transferring those actions and desires to be in line with god's will. Like the Bible characters, people today imagine divine interventions in their lives, they justify god's silence, they justify his callous disregard for human suffering and still call him a good father. (much like an abused wife who won't leave her abuser) These people invent complex choreography and gyrations of logic to avoid taking off the rose colored glasses. They then huddle with people of like belief for the good feeling of confirmation. Some even will lead their group for the power or financial gain. The facts are, as Job said, 'man is short lived and glutted with agitation'......or.... Life is hard and then you die!.