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Many times the unemployed were encouraged to not look for too hard work. Just pioneer until God provides.
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Do Most Pioneers really Get there time quota?
by xelder indo most pioneers really get there time quota?
over many years, i've known only a handful who were conscientious and actually seemed to work hard and efficiently.. i have long thought that counting time was really stupid.
all on us would kill time inefficiently, but for many years as i served on the service committee, we would review the pioneers activity twice a year.
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Do Most Pioneers really Get there time quota?
by xelder indo most pioneers really get there time quota?
over many years, i've known only a handful who were conscientious and actually seemed to work hard and efficiently.. i have long thought that counting time was really stupid.
all on us would kill time inefficiently, but for many years as i served on the service committee, we would review the pioneers activity twice a year.
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we would have special campaign months every spring around the memorial of Christ's death and get 20 - 30 extra people to pioneer for a month. Then we never could come close to giving them enough territory, so they had to kill time. I'm sure Jesus is very impressed by the awesome little paper reports that he personally reads every month.
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Do Most Pioneers really Get there time quota?
by xelder indo most pioneers really get there time quota?
over many years, i've known only a handful who were conscientious and actually seemed to work hard and efficiently.. i have long thought that counting time was really stupid.
all on us would kill time inefficiently, but for many years as i served on the service committee, we would review the pioneers activity twice a year.
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Do Most Pioneers really Get there time quota?
Over many years, I've known only a handful who were conscientious and actually seemed to work hard and efficiently.
I have long thought that counting time was really stupid. All on us would kill time inefficiently, but for many years as I served on the service committee, we would review the pioneers activity twice a year. I would say only 20% actually made their time by the end of the year.
And much of that time was fake. If the way they worked was at a secular job, they would be fired. Early morning laundry mats, in rural territory, driving as far and slow as possible between making calls on houses, crossing the county, and then driving all the way back to where they started, then coffee break, then a garage sale, then pick up a prescription, then work a couple houses, etc.
I didn't care how they counted time, it was all about the pioneer title for many. I wouldn't recommend a person to begin or continue pioneering if they couldn't get their time (even if it was fake - but that was on them). But the CO's would always want to keep low hour pioneers and put on new pioneers who had been low hour publishers because it made there circuit look better.
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Jesus' Role as Mediator
by sd-7 ini just had a thought--never a good sign, right, ladies?--about jesus' role as mediator, as defined by the watchtower society.
i personally experienced a particularly interesting moment with my mother back when i first started to lose faith in the borg.
(i'm actually going to use that term, borg, now because "organization" makes me cringe every time i hear it, even when it's used at work.
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excelent logic. Thats a new way of looking at it for me
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Hey OTWO -
Go buy it for JF Rutherfords spirit-
It could be the Brooklyn Beth-Sarim for ancient "worthies"
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A Conversation That Sent Me On a Search ...
by snowbird inin 2000, my boss, a police lieutenant, was nearing retirement and had very little work to do.. every afternoon, he used to come out of his office and station himself near my workstation for a chat.
there was something about me that seemed to fascinate him.
i think it was my being a jw; he used to ask probing questions about my belief.. one day our conversation centered on sin and judgment.
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Snowbird - great post
I am fairly new to this sight and just realized last week what Pauls words meant (Rom 6:7). I have read Romans for 49 years, being raised a JW. I have taught the WT explainations for 25 years as an MS/Elder. Thanks to this sight I am rethinking many things and learning a great deal. Thanks to all who take time to contribute
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Can anyone please help me find ....
by xelder ini read an article on a website a few months back.
i'm 99% sure it was by ed dunlap.
it was about the tree of life being christ.
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I read an article on a website a few months back. I'm 99% sure it was by Ed Dunlap. It was about the tree of life being Christ. The author discussed the pre-flood demons and their offspring as an attempt to disrupt the "seed" lineage.
Does anyone else recall it? Can you tell me where? thx
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My witness mum sent a birthday card.
by creativhoney inwell if there is a congregation contest for shunning i am sure my family will win.. only my mother has been friends with a worldy for as long as i remember.
- the lady in question has terminal cancer and so its a good reason for my mum to be a good christian friend.. mums friend is also mine though i am dfd she never took sides, until now its been a year and she didnt think my mother would be capable of carrying out the shuning to this extent.
- she has lost a lot of respect for her.. today mums friend (and mine) phoned me, i asked what she had been up to how she was.
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Grant Suiter was GB member - sorry for not clarifying that if someone didn't know
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My witness mum sent a birthday card.
by creativhoney inwell if there is a congregation contest for shunning i am sure my family will win.. only my mother has been friends with a worldy for as long as i remember.
- the lady in question has terminal cancer and so its a good reason for my mum to be a good christian friend.. mums friend is also mine though i am dfd she never took sides, until now its been a year and she didnt think my mother would be capable of carrying out the shuning to this extent.
- she has lost a lot of respect for her.. today mums friend (and mine) phoned me, i asked what she had been up to how she was.
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One time a few years back, I was serving as a temporary worker at Brooklyn Bethel. At lunch, I personally observed Sister Suiter (Grant Suiter's widow) exchange a "joke" birthday card with another sister. I kidded with them about it and I could tell it made them uncomfortable that I had seen them and they didn't know who I was or who I might tell. LOL
As an elder, I received a couple "joke" birthday cards from other elders. My witness grandma used to call everyone in the family on their respective birthdays just to remind us of the day whe first met us.
An elder in a congregation had an adopted child and they used to celebrate the day they adopted him. I used to joke with my wife that maybe JW's could celebrate "day we brought you home from the hospital" day with our kids. It wouldn't be a birthday, but it would mock the restriction.
There is a very casual view of the restriction on Birthday celebration among JW's
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Judicial Committees - "Works Beffitting Repentance"
by xelder ina couple years ago the cos and dos were pushing a letter at elders meetings about being more critical of so-called repentant wrongdoers and being tougher on such claims.
do their recent works prove it.
don't just believe tears.
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What "works befitting repentance" were shown at the city of Nineveh in Jonahs time- did all 100,000 plus inhabitants all feel regret. What about king David, the Prodigal son parable?
They were sorry - no proof - God forgave them