Truthexplorer
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New member checking in
by Old Major inbeen reading for about 2 and a half years, thought i would take the plunge and sign up.. my circumstances... i live in uk, serving as ms. i am fully awake.
i can not leave due to family, so just treating the meetings as a bit of a social club.
i would like to give out more details, but i think you all know the drill.. complete disillusionment and i suppose natural curiosity woke me up.. don't know what else to say right now, just hello, and i hope to get to know some of you guys better.
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wecome old major. This was the first site I came across all those years ago back in 2002. For me it was fantastic to see so many feeling the same way I did about my continous nagging doubts particularly having studied the revelation book its grand climac at hand. This site led me to tead crisis of conscience which confirmed all my suspisions. You will wont agree wirh everyone on here, but st least you can agree to disagree. Its also goos to get your bottled up thoughts od your chest. All the best TE -
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CO just confirmed worldwide construction halt and possible JW.ORG news of it
by LevelThePlayingField injust had the co visit tonight.
i asked him if he had heard about the worldwide halt of construction besides warwick and to my surprise he said he heard the same thing.
then he went on and add that also some branches are closing and some bethelites going into pioneering but, "all because of the preaching work now.
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Hope the bethelites are in the union!
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Were the elders informed about the construction shutdown?
by LevelThePlayingField inanybody know?
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The local needs tonight were interesting. Putting aside everything else mentioned ie importance of preaching, meetings, fellowship etc reference alluding to the situation with the building projects was remarked upon initially by saying 'despite rumours heard,'.the preaching work is.....and our ministry is.....and so forth. Then several mins and scriptures later....the brother mentions how the preaching work takes precedence over building projects! (cat out of the bag moment to those listening). The talk cleverly iced over the real issue of building projects being halted. To R&F, it was an encouraging talk re focus on preaching etc -
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Is Watchtower beginning to buckle
by Truthexplorer inis wt beginning to buckle under the weight of everything that is happening?
heavy criticism from the media and the plethora of websites and youtube videos popping up; and now the obvious issues with finances clearly evident.
the pressure for change must be immense and therefore necessary!
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Is WT beginning to buckle under the weight of everything that is happening? Heavy criticism from the media and the plethora of websites and youtube videos popping up; and now the obvious issues with finances clearly evident. The pressure for change must be immense and therefore necessary! -
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On a need to know basis - The Letter
by no-zombie inwe've just had our sunday meeting and the letter was read out to the congregation.. however, there was no mention of the bethel lay-offs or the building program shut-downs.. looks like we are on a need to know basis, here in australia..
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My wife looked at me when the new magazine arrangement was announced (virtually word for word what I told her several days ago) and said you were right. Interestingly I wanted to test the waters with a couple in our hall who deep down think look up sites like this. I played dumb by saying ....wow that's some big changes. He said he had already known with a satisfying look on his face, and said he read it on jw.org last night.... I felt like laughing and saying .......yeah right! What I did find interesting was what his wife said as he began talking to someone else when probing her. She said....yeah also from what another sister said that they are CUTTING COST by downsizing at bethel. She spelt out in chapter and verse just about everything I have been reading on this site and others is work at Chelmsford halted, lay offs. Again I just played dumb with a surprised look on my face. :-). What also Intriged me was she was looking at me in a way that kind off said am I saying too much here. Almost cautious, wary in what she said. I just said wow, perhaps we are closer to the end than we think!! -
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Top three reason for it to be cult and/or not the true religion.
by Powermetal4ever inalright, i want everyone to list your top three reasons for jw to be cult and/or not the true religion.
1.you can't look, or wear whatever you want.. 2. blah.
3. blah.
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1. Jesus mediatorship only applying to 'some Christians'
2. High control eg Men are frowned upon for choosing to grow a beard.
3. Extreme shunning.
I could mention far more, but will no doubt be covered in this thread
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Let's Consolidate World Branch Layoff Threads - Oct 2015
by TheListener inthere has been many threads from various posters around the world about recent bethel layoffs.. so far i remember threads about:.
south africa.
united states.
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It's just unbelievable. Maybe they had been copying Enrons financial model guaranteeing projected profits of biillions of dollars..arrff -
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I feel trapped...I might return to the Borg....
by JustHuman14 ini have being thinking quite a while before posting.
actually i haven't post for quite a long in the forum and i guess i'm one of the old ones, since i became member since 2001.. after leaving the borg for almost 16 years and disfellowshiped 10 years ago.
you can see my relevant post:.
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Hi just human 14. I was a quite fortunate to see your post just now as Intriged by all the changes happening at the moment etc. Yes, the reason it took so long was I had been reproved in my old hall and had just moved to another area hence to a new hall. My wife and I were having martial problems at the time. My heart wasn't in the truth at that time and I was attending the hall for about 4 months. I was told I needed to attend ALL meetings at that time is 2002. That included the group study. It was that that put me off as I was not allowed to answer up which was really embarrassing. So I gave up after 4 months (faded) as couldn't stand it anymore plus the fact my wife an I weren't getting along at the time. We get along fine now BTW. I then discovered things on line with the age of the internet. I came across this site which led me to crises of conscience which I came across in the city library. That book had a huge impact on me and most certainly changed my whole outlook of the society. About 2004 I made a half hearted effort to return again having to suffer the embarrass ment of attending the group without being able to answer. I lasted about 4 months again. In 2006, I made another attempt to go back, this time I lasted 6 months. After 6 months I went up to an elder who was quite old in years and ASKED him if I would be able to answer up yet. He gave me a remarkable answer which I still remember to this day. He said whilst shaking his head with a you must be joking smirk on his face 'nah, nah no'. That answer just about knocked me over. I lasted about another 3 weeks and was seething with anger at the way these so called loving shepherds treat people who clearly were trying to get back into the fold....yet like to watch people stew. At that point I just gave up. I also decided to write a letter to the PO as to why I didn't want to go back. I mentioned a number of things in the letter that I didn't agree with such as Christ's mediatorship, the blood issue etc and said I wanted to read up on other faiths as felt I had rushed into the JWs etc. The PO came to my home, and discussed the letter. He said the door would always be open and left things at that. I was quite surprised he didn't call a JC to be honest. Anyway In 2007 I was diagnosed with a serious illness which made me think alot about things. I began reading the nkjv of the bible and read it all the way through within a year and a half, underlining and marking everything. At that point I truly felt my spirituality coming back again. In 2009, I made a decisive move to go back to the meetings and thankfully I wouldn't have to sit through the group study as they were done a way with which was a God send. I gave the PO a heartfelt letter telling him I was genuine and sincere in returning and that I would accept the help of the elders. As can be seen by my previous post, they left me stewing for well over a year. Not one elder EVER asked how I was doing spiritually. It was as if they wanted or at least expected me to go away. Over that period of time, I felt nothing but despair and genuine hurt at these men. Every time they were on the platform talking about love and how we should reach out to those who need help, I felt like shouting hypocrites! As per previous post, my old PO got me back on track and shortly after decided to take perimeno' s advice to move to a different hall. Perimeno's advice was absolutely spot on. This brother helped me keep focused. You should check out his writings on his site as will help you in your return. I am now in the same loving hall. The brothers in that hall are genuine Christians and my wife daughter and I are very well thought off. I just thinking k its ashamed these sincere people are being misled by the GB. But know that Jesus on his return will straighten out all error. Perimeno means to wait BTW. I now keep under the radar and avoid saying things that will jeopardise my position within the hall. I really do hope change will come about before Jesus return, we can only hope. I wish you all the best in your return. Endure patiently and once re instated keep a low profile. You don't need to be controlled by the GB, and can have a loving relationship with Our heavenly father and his son. Best regards TE -
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Letter from Brazilian Branch: Buildings
by TheTruthBR inthis letter will be read in all the congregations of brazil on the service meeting this week.
(google translation - original available)originala todas as congregacoesprezados irmaos:nao ha duvida de que jeova tem abencoado ricamente seu povo no mundo inteiro.
isso fica evidenteno aumento do numero de publicadores e no notavel progresso espiritual de nossa organizacao.
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Jusy a wee quote from blazing saddles ( in reference to what has been mentioned over the past week) ......it twu...its twu...its twu -
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I admit- I make my TMS talks apostate
by fr0808 inhello (not a new user - had to reregister with the site revamp).
i look for every way to make my 5 minute talks devoid of wt flavor.
i try to be positive -talk about god's love for humanity.
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Cappytan - I use other religious sites for my talks too. in fact the illustration used in one of my talks was taken directly from another Christian website and had several people tell me how much they enjoyed my talk and illustration :-)