Posts by Truthexplorer

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Every time I see one of them loving their kids, I think....

by jambon1 in

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every time i see photos of new jw parents cuddling up to their new babies.. every time i see people giving the parents new baby cards & gifts.. every time i see them having fun with their children.. i think to myself; 'you would shun your kids' .

if they don't end up being jw's.

if they simply publicly declare that they don't believe.

Truthexplorer

HB.....I had a conversation with my own daughter about the shunning policy.

I was watching a documentary on the exclusive bretheren that has a similar shunning policy. My daughter asked what I was watching. I explained it to her and then said that the woman in the documentary had been completely shunned- by her parents for years. She asked why. I said because she left her religion. She said in her own kind of way ooohhh kayyy!

I said crazy isn't it? I then said believe it or not we (Jehovah's Witnesses) are also expected to do the same. She didn't say anything. I said I can assure you darling that mummy and I would NEVER EVER do such a cruel thing..... EVER. Seed planted. She is an intelligent girl and will see things for what they are as she turns into an adult.

Sadly my wife doesn't want to hear me speak negatively of the organisation any more. She knows things aren't right, but I understand why she burys her head in the sand. Fear of facing facts and rocking the boat I guess.

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Every time I see one of them loving their kids, I think....

by jambon1 in

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friends

every time i see photos of new jw parents cuddling up to their new babies.. every time i see people giving the parents new baby cards & gifts.. every time i see them having fun with their children.. i think to myself; 'you would shun your kids' .

if they don't end up being jw's.

if they simply publicly declare that they don't believe.

Truthexplorer

It's deeply saddening that the hard core JW's will follow this Policy to the letter. After all it comes from Gods representatives here on earth (aka Morris & Co).

The 'Good News' is that the charity commission here in the UK are very much aware of it. It will be interesting to see what transpires!

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10 good reasons why celebrating birthdays should be allowed

by bluecanary in

i cannot take credit for any of the gems below but i did want to polish and organize them.

much of the information was borrowed from this thread.

if you can come up with any more, please post them.. the bible does not ban birthdays.

Truthexplorer

We celebrate our child's birthday each year. Couldn't care less what the 7 blokes in Brooklyn think!

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Jw's and beards

by wannaexit in

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without going into details.

it appears that new light might be coming down the pipes that beards are acceptable.

Truthexplorer

I saw a lot of men wearing beards here in the uk at the convention. In fact, several young lads from one local Cong were wearing them which I was really surprised about as some are sons of elders. To me it made a big statement.

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Jw's and beards

by wannaexit in

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without going into details.

it appears that new light might be coming down the pipes that beards are acceptable.

Truthexplorer

Of course, locally bullish BoEs with dictatorial COBEs will still try and insist that beards are offensive in their area.................

Yep, the above is absolutely 100% the case. I know of one brother recently pulled up by the CO about the utter shock he had to see the brother sporting a ( neat trim beard) beard. The CO even asked him to read this September's Watchtower on dress and grooming. He reminded the brother that men don't tend to wear beards in the organisation and to look at the examples of brothers at the assemblys.

As sir82 says re the article....it is doublespeak. Unless the GB send each BOE a letter instructing them to avoid pulling brothers up for simply choosing to grow a beard, there will always be the the over zealous company men ready to pounce on anyone that doesn't tow the line according to THEIR pharasaical rules and standards.

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Another trinity thing

by Mozzie in

i have gone through the ones on here, i have read so much about it and everyone seems to have a different idea as to what the creed actually came up with in the sense of explaining it, religious leaders from most denominations seem to try to explain it and are all different, it does your head in just trying to read half their stuff.

when i was going door to door, i knew how to argue against it, but now trying to learn about it.. i was reading an article of the net about this and how christ emptied himself of all deity and that, but with all the statements made and arguments to and for it, one question was brought up.

when jesus was asked by his disciples about the time of the end, jesus replied neither i nor the angels know the hour, only the father.

Truthexplorer

Having researched the subject of the trinity and giving an educated answer in a nutshell. The whole trinity thing is a bunch of Babylonish man made nonsense!

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Reason's why it is so difficult to leave

by Truthexplorer in

1. concerns about the effects it would have on yours and your family's social life.. 2. fear of being shunned.

3. the stress it will cause.

4. the thought of feeling isolated.

Truthexplorer

1. Concerns about the effects it would have on yours and your family's social life.

2. Fear of being shunned

3. The Stress it will cause

4. The thought of feeling isolated

5. You want to avoid rocking the boat for rest of family members

6. You need your faith (Christian) - but where do you go?

7. The worry of making a fool of yourself ie fade and then go back - perceived as fickle

8. The impact it would have on your family - arguments etc

9. Missing your friendships

10. Missing routine ......Note: I hated my life before being a witness, I smoked canibas, felt down alot of the time ( mild depression) and hung out with the wrong people. I am older and maturer now and jw standards are now ingrained ie I hate foul language etc, general bad behaviour etc. The routine helps me remain somewhat good I suppose.

These are the thoughts that run through my mind constantly. The only way I can think of making a clean break is if we as a family moved home to another area and just fade. That is the only solution I can think off.

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Who is Your Mediator? ---- proof readers required

by jwfacts in

a number of posters here have said that the watchtower doctrine that jesus is not our mediator is the one that they find most disturbing.

for this reason i have written a new article to post on my site.

the article is long, but i would appreciate if people could check it for doctrinal and historical accuaracy.

Truthexplorer

Great thread jwfacts. I first realised that Jesus (according to wt) is not our mediator when reading crisis of conscience in 2004. I was really shocked when it hit me. A couple of weeks ago during a public talk, as an exercise, I wanted to see how often Jesus was mentioned. Jehovah was mentioned dozens of times, the organisation was mentioned about 10 times, Jesus was mentioned once, though not his actual name, reference was made to him as the ransom. Jesus is continually Deemphasised.

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Rutherford Exposed: The Story of Berta and Bonnie

by Farkel in

it was made by a women who in later years wore crotchless panties and bras which had holes in the nipple areas.

he not only knew the woman in question (she's now deceased), he has met her numerous times.

up until recently this secret of her year's long sexual affair with rutherford was kept by the family.

Truthexplorer

Hi all,. Great thread. I haven't seen whole thread and unsure if there has been pics u0loaded of Berta peale. I can't speak Spanish but saw this video which appears to show photos of bonnie Boyd and Berta peale

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ipKOGmodIFA

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Incredible cover of book published in 1932

by Truthexplorer in

ok, i am reading through the book the watchtower and the masons by fritz spring meier which i am finding a fascinating read; and discovered that judge rutherford published the book 'cause of death'.

what is incredible is the book cover.

the book was published in 1932 which would have been a little bit more eye catching back then.

Truthexplorer

Hey TD. To be honest Springmeirs book is quite fascinating as can't put it down. For example the most important word in freemasonry is Jehovah. Thanks for letting know about Art deco movement though.