Working on Pro-Wrap was my naughtiest phase at Bethel. That's when I worked with Matty Ole#@^. he was known to be the dirtiest, but very very funny. He is also one of the ones I walked in on in the bathroom rubbing one out. But that was later. But we thought we could talk about anything we wanted since the machines were so loud. And as long as no sisters were assigned to work with us that day we got really nasty. Actually one commuter sister named Gina Jackm@^ was just as dirty as some of the guys. anyway, we were right on the tour route talking away and smiling and waving at the tours all day long while we were talking about sex, women's anatomy, boobs, whatever, then a tour went by doing sign language. A brother on the tour locked eyes with me as I was saying some nasty stuff, and his eyes got real wide. then he went over to the tour guide and did some sign language. The sister tour guide looked shocked and just hurried the tour past us really fast. later the guy was still looking back at us. I realized he was reading our lips. oops.
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Your most DISTURBING WATCHTOWER Bethel/Branch experience? (No full names please)
by Balaamsass inok.. you 70 plus bethelite members.... this is your chance to share stories!
inquiring minds want to know !no full names please..follow t.o.s.
to avoid borg libel lawsuits).. i will start the ball rolling with week one.
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Your most DISTURBING WATCHTOWER Bethel/Branch experience? (No full names please)
by Balaamsass inok.. you 70 plus bethelite members.... this is your chance to share stories!
inquiring minds want to know !no full names please..follow t.o.s.
to avoid borg libel lawsuits).. i will start the ball rolling with week one.
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zengalileo
I had a girlfriend in California while I was at Bethel. We made out at the Arboretum in Arcadia when I was out on vacation. My girlfriend Denise, told her mom and dad for some stupid reason and we got drilled by her parents. My parents didn't care. then when I got back to Bethel the bastard, St3v3 Petty was his name believe it or not, had called Bethel to report that I had been inappropriate with his daughter. So I was called in and Dan Mar$hall and Scott Grin& called me into the bethel office and drilled me on exactly what we did. "How long did you kiss?" I don't know, 20 minutes? "Did you get on top of her?" yup. "Did you topuch her breasts?" Nope. "Grab her butt?' yes, a little. "what are your intentions?" Marriage. "will you leave Bethel?" Not sure yet....Very embarrasing. But I actually spilled it all and told the truth like an idiot. We broke up like a month later. i tried to get back together with her after i left Bethel but she wouldn't have it.
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Your most DISTURBING WATCHTOWER Bethel/Branch experience? (No full names please)
by Balaamsass inok.. you 70 plus bethelite members.... this is your chance to share stories!
inquiring minds want to know !no full names please..follow t.o.s.
to avoid borg libel lawsuits).. i will start the ball rolling with week one.
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zengalileo
We staged an argument over the OJ verdict when our scaffolding was set up outside the second floor of the factory. It was me and the white guys against one black brother. We had such a convincing argument that sisters from the mailing office complained about racial dissentions on our crew . Mike Krau$e pulled the paint crew and our plaster crew together and said that he didn't know exactly who was to blame but the sisters said it was most or all of us so he just gave us a lecture about being quieter and not having conversations on the subject of race.
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Your most DISTURBING WATCHTOWER Bethel/Branch experience? (No full names please)
by Balaamsass inok.. you 70 plus bethelite members.... this is your chance to share stories!
inquiring minds want to know !no full names please..follow t.o.s.
to avoid borg libel lawsuits).. i will start the ball rolling with week one.
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zengalileo
I started a rumor just for fun once that my friend's brother was addicted to drugs, and that he was visiting him at Bethel to get off drugs. Then I took a picture of myself and his brother, who was 17 and more than game in participating in the joke, drinking Vodka and downing pills. I left the picture out at my work site, I was in construction at the time, to see if anyone would pick it up and freak out. Then I had my friend Chris call the crew posing as the factory overseer Dan Marsh@ll asking if I had been involved in anything bizarre recently. Some of the guys were suspicious that it was all a joke, so I had them call Dan Marsh2ll for real to "prove" that I was really in some hot water. so they called him and asked him if everything was alright with me. Of course he said he didn't know anything about it but that he'd check into it. Eventually Dan called back and said he couldn't find out anything but that I should call him and straighten it all out whatever it was. I called him and told him I was trying get Chris's brother off drugs, but that he was too far gone. he asked about a picture" and I said I didn't know anything about it. I kept the picture in my possession. Dan eventually figured out we were messing with him and he told us to knock it off whatever we were doing. It tuned into a soap opera at some point.
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Your most DISTURBING WATCHTOWER Bethel/Branch experience? (No full names please)
by Balaamsass inok.. you 70 plus bethelite members.... this is your chance to share stories!
inquiring minds want to know !no full names please..follow t.o.s.
to avoid borg libel lawsuits).. i will start the ball rolling with week one.
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zengalileo
Walking in on brothers masturbating. 3 times. Paul Chavar####, Joe Neiderhi###, and Matt Olem##.
Being forced to write positive reviews for official Osha documents. I wrote in under the section that asked the individual their opinion on the safety program. I was told that all the answers to the questions were to be Yes, and the highest rating should be given in every category. So I wrote in that they should not be telling the Bethelites what to write on the form because it is supposed to be a personal opinion for each person. Well, a half hour later Bob Sch@@n and Dan Mar$#al called me in and told be to erase what I had written. (This is in my first week by the way, at the Farm.) I told them that I could not in good conscience erase it. But I told them that they could erase it if they wanted to. So Bob took the pencil with a sound of disgust, and shaking his head and erased my comments.
Getting drunk in the picnic grounds behind the A building with Matty Ole###, Randy Babbi##, Shane Ol$#^, My brother Danny, Ruben Po&&a$ and Chris D@R@ (trying to keep full names obscured here.) One time we almost got in a gang fight with the paint shop a$$holes. Ruben threw a beer bottle at them barely missing one of them. Ruben was plastered. Then the paint shop guys came over and started asking questions like who threw it and how many beers we had drunk. We hid Ruben cuz he was the drunkest, and I did all the talking being the least drunk. we talked them into forgetting about it but there were some tense moments. Like we were going toe to toe for a few moments.
Getting in a fight in a car with Dave L@ck. He was mad about something that happened in a football game on TV and when he got in the car he shoved me over. So I took his head and rammed it several times against the back door window. Then one of the guys in the front seat, jumped into the back and came between us.
Shane Gat#s telling me after I challenged him on some stupid issue I can't even remember, that I should "never challenge an elder." Then playing baseball with him, I was pitching him bad pitches on purpose cuz he was sucha dick, and he went off on me, stopped the game and accused me of doing what I was doing. I didn't admit it of course. Finally after he cried about it long enough, the other team gave him two extra pitches. he got a good hit unfortunately, but man he couldn't take losing. total cry baby.
I almost walked in on Cindy Pe**s and Don Lar$#n "practicing" in the stairwell. She played clarinette and he played sax. They both got caught cheating on their mates with each other soon after that. Willie Pe**s is still at Bethel I have heard.
Butch Braina$d grabbing me and pulling me off the feeder stand because I insisted on rotating jobs and Butch wanted some other operator to get a production record. This almost turned into a fight cuz the way he grabbed me and pushed me off. It would have been an assault if I had called the police. I should have.
Me and Sheri Braina$d had a little romance going on for a while. It got real intimate, to the point I had to ask to be transferred. She pulled me aside one day and said, "You know that song "It's sad to belong to someone else when the right one comes along?" That's how I feel about you." I just walked off the factory floor and went home for the day. I didn't know what was happening. Then the next day I asked for a transfer. I was such a good boy. If that happened today I would tap that no hesitation!
Stuff I did:
Walking through the dining room with a pillow and blankets in my hand and people asking me where I was going, and I said, "to do my all night watchman." people were like, What the hell? you are taking a pillow and blankets to the Watchtman booth? Nobody ever confronted me about it.
Steal mail sacks and use them to carry my stuff in. I had a collection of sacks from other countries. On each one it said, PROPERTY of the Austrailian government etc. I carried them all around Bethel. One guy asked me about it once, I just said, "i'm borrowing it.'
Taking many many blank cassets from the stationary store and making mix tapes with them. I NEVER contributed for literature when I was at Bethel. In fact even after Bethel I never gave a dime again for any literature. I figured, I gave at the office.
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Any updates on the SPY network at the I.R.S., F.B.I., and other agencies for Watchtower Bible and Tract Society?
by Balaamsass incurious, with almost 25,000 members here.
network of j.w.
does anyone have any up to date info on the status of the volunteer "spies"?.
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zengalileo
A guy in my church was a JW and an FBI agent at the same time in the 1970s. He was actually an elder at one point but I don't know if he was an elder and fbi at the same time. He also worked for the state police in Kansas or something before and after the FBI. I know for a fact, much to my surprise, that he was a police officer and an elder at the same time and carried a gun too. This was probably early 1970s.
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Any updates on the SPY network at the I.R.S., F.B.I., and other agencies for Watchtower Bible and Tract Society?
by Balaamsass incurious, with almost 25,000 members here.
network of j.w.
does anyone have any up to date info on the status of the volunteer "spies"?.
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zengalileo
I have tried to bring this issue up on a forum called allnurses.com, the largest nurse forum in the world and there are a lot of JW nurses on that site that smack down any mention of this subject. Even non-jw nurses wil scream "hate speech" if you try to question JW fitness for the nursing profession. so I think the medical community is mostly at peace hiring JWs. they are certainly defended much on that site.
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It's Time to Stop Saying...
by zengalileo init's time to stop saying that jehovah's witnesses do not accept blood transfusions.
it just isn't true any longer.
i have posted documentary evidence of jws world wide accepting whole platelets , whole plasma, whole white blood cells, their own whole blood after it being stored up to six hours, and evidence of them saying they are "very happy" that the courts ordered the transfusion of their children saving their lives.
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zengalileo
those who think I was making a comment on the wt actually changing the teaching miss my point completely.
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should there be a national coming out day for JWs leaving the borg?
by zengalileo ini got the idea from what harvey milk did for the gay movement.
i am tired of hearing these stories about people staying jws while scared to admit they don't believe in it anymore.
if you saw the movie milk, then you know the argument.
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zengalileo
I got the idea from what Harvey Milk did for the gay movement. I am tired of hearing these stories about people staying JWs while scared to admit they don't believe in it anymore. If you saw the movie Milk, then you know the argument. If everybody comes out then almost every JW family will know someone who has left. A percentage of those families will not cut off their sons so strictly, and continued association may soften JWs, some of them/ Also, it takes courage to be open about leaving. So people who live a lie for the sake of making life easier and holding onto their family are lacking courage. Courage is what they need. And if your relationships are propped up on a lie, an imaginaty bond dependent on your current daily performance, then your whole life is a sham and you are very much to be pitied.
Those who are staying in a secretly being subversive nand trying to infiltrate the jws to get them out are also living a lie. while I appreciate those who do this on one level, cuz they can get us things beinf on the inside and they can report to us goings on, I still wish all who are mentally out would just be brave and make an announcement to everyone in their life about what you really believe. So stop playing games with jws. just leave, and if they can't accept you the way you are then to hell with them. they are not worth saving.
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DO YOU BELIEVE JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES "SHUNNING" OF MINORS IS CHILD ABUSE?
by Balaamsass ini have been reading countless heartbreaking accounts on this site of children of jehovah's witnesses being "disfellowshipped" and shunned by entire families, their congregations, basicly everyone they have ever known for simply questioning their parent's religion!!.
some have been tossed out of family homes to live in cars!!!
this is not christian.
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zengalileo
I have known dozens of disfellowshipped minors in my life. For awhile it seemed like they were the ONLY ones getting dfd in my area.