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  Jotham Article for Children...

  by losingit in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i am disfellowshipped, separated from my husband, and have been "lurking" for some time.

  only because i was so unbelievably lonely for being disfellowshipped, i was missing my "friends" terribly, did i even bump into this site.

  i googled "lonely and disfellowshipped" and a stream of experiences appeared on the screen.

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  GLTirebiter

  Welcome, losingit!

  That would make it very hard for you, wouldn’t it?

  That sentence is important because it is a logical fallacy [links to pdf], a version of "begging the question". That fallacy relates to questions that presume their own answer. They are presenting the Watchtower's opinions (a parent who "stops worshipping Jehovah" is bad for the family, anybody leaves the Watchtower organization has turned against God, "apostates" should be avoided, etc.) as undisputed facts.

  Seeing this manipulation as what it is an important first step in vaccinating yourself against the mind control.
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  Have You Given Up on JW Friends or Family Ever Seeing The Light And Getting Out?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm always hopeful but mostly doubtful that they will get out of her..

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  GLTirebiter

  I've learned to realize that their value as human beings depends on who they are, not what they are. Whether or not they leave does not make them "good" or "bad" people. Whether or not they leave does not make them more or less deserving of love and respect. So I haven't given up on them, but I have given up making their WT status more important than my family members.
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  My mother wants to see my kids

  by mrsjones5 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i decided to call my mother more often at the request of my brother (the parental units have been driving him crazy and my calling more hopefully will decrease the craziness my brother has had to deal with).

  so i called her last tuesday and the first thing that pops out of her mouth is she recovering from a weekend of babysitting her "substitute grandchildren" (her exact words and actually my nonjw cousin's children) since she doesn't get to see her own grandchildren.. wonderful .

  there are reasons why i don't take my children to my mother's house.

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  GLTirebiter

  When I asked if she would like to participate in my oldest son's football fundraiser she said she doesn't do charity.

  You can't say it any better than she did!
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  Symposium: Beware of Apostates! - 'God's Word is Truth!' District Convention of Jehovah's Witnesses 2013 - not on JW.ORG

  by mindnumbed in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  symposium: beware of apostates!.

  satanhuman apostates also of interest ..... the truth brings "not peace, but a sword" .

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  GLTirebiter

  Well done, A.D.C.MeShirley!
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  Oklahoma Tornado

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  wow, just saw this on the news.

  truly devastating.. sorry i have no words to offer anyone other than that we're thinking of anyone who'd been affected..

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  GLTirebiter

  Any word from sooner7nc?
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  Russell and the Miracle Wheat Scandal

  by Wild_Thing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  he truly was a crook, wasn't he?!?

  i found this article on the brookly daily eagle website reminiscing about this scandal.

  evidently, the newspaper outed him on this scheme and printed a cartoon of russell and his miracle wheat, and so russell sued them and lost!

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  GLTirebiter

  This BBC article reminded me of the "miracle wheat" incident. Unlike Russell's snake oil, this will be tested before it goes on the market.

  British scientists say they have developed a new type of wheat which could increase productivity by 30%.

  The Cambridge-based National Institute of Agricultural Botany has combined an ancient ancestor of wheat with a modern variety to produce a new strain.

  In early trials, the resulting crop seemed bigger and stronger than the current modern wheat varieties.

  It will take at least five years of tests and regulatory approval before it is harvested by farmers.
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  Shunning a myth says jw spokesman

  by doofdaddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.theage.com.au/national/jehovahs-witnesses-a-cruel-cult-20130315-2g5x3.htmlit's hotting up in australia regarding cults, especially tax free like jws but how is the response of vin toole (the australian wts legal mouth piece) regarding shunning!.

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  GLTirebiter

  "Shunning a myth":

  • It's a myth that a disfellowshipped witnesses wouldn't be invited to her brother's wedding (the invitation would be sent shortly before the event, so if the DF'd sister can afford a next-day plane fare and can find an available seat on a busy weekend, she might even be able to accept that invitation on such short notice).
  • It's a myth the disfellowshipped sister wouldn't be allowed into the Kingdom Hall if the last-minute travel arrangements came through. (She could enter moments before the ceremony starts, sit in the last row to avoid stumbling others by scandalously sitting with the rest of the family, and is expected to leave promptly the moment the ceremony ends).
  • It's a myth that the disfellowshipped sister would be completely ignored at the reception. There could be some "urgent family business" that would allow at least a moment of interaction. (Accepting a gift, for example: a wedding being one of the few times Witnesses are allowed to give and receive presents.)

  Watchtower-sanctioned shunning is not mythical, it is legendary!
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  I have said it before

  by mouthy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this time i mean it.. thanks for all the ones that love me .

  i am getting off the site after all these years.. anghard & simon .

  but of late.

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  GLTirebiter

  On this Mother's day, we wish bon voyage to the surrogate mom who kept us in line, and showed us what "Grace" means. Live long and live well, Mouthy!
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  JULY 15th Study Watchtower - NEW LIGHT IS FANTASY

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the july 15 study watchtower uses all 4 study articles to try to inculcate into every witnesses' mind that the governing body is indisputably god's sole channel of communication on earth.

  to do so, it uses a multitude of scriptures along with seriously flawed un-inspired reasoning.

  the foundation stone of this watchtower's blatant agenda is the claim that when jesus used only a few to dispense the physical food to the many, he was setting a principle which would be applied to the distribution of spiritual food after he returned to heaven.

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  GLTirebiter

  I dont get the article, because its circular. Its an article that tells you to read articles from them about artciles written by them about reading artciles from them...

  Citing your own work as supporting references is a sign of poor research (as in "none") and shoddy scholarship. The only time I heard my ex-brother-in-law give a talk at the Kingdom Hall it was hard to keep a straight face; the entire outline was a series of quotations from other Watchtower articles and talks.
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  What's The Worst TV Program ?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  2 broke girls is the worst show on tv.

  the acting is terrible.. what show do you avoid??.

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  GLTirebiter

  It's a close call between Jimmy Kimmel and David Letterman.