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  Elder "D": Catholics No Longer Believe in a Trinity

  by Saename in

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  so in this topic, i mentioned i had a conversation with an elder "d." this elder said that the catholic church admitted the trinity is unscriptural.

  i'm pretty sure this is not true.

  the doctrine of trinity is the most fundamental belief in the catholic church.

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  According to the Catechism of the Catholic Church, the doctrine of the trinity remains "the central mystery of Christian faith and life." For those who prefer to not click links to the Vatican web site:
  

  232 Christians are baptized "in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit." Before receiving the sacrament, they respond to a three-part question when asked to confess the Father, the Son and the Spirit: "I do." "The faith of all Christians rests on the Trinity."

  233 Christians are baptized in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit: not in their names, for there is only one God, the almighty Father, his only Son and the Holy Spirit: the Most Holy Trinity.

  234 The mystery of the Most Holy Trinity is the central mystery of Christian faith and life. It is the mystery of God in himself. It is therefore the source of all the other mysteries of faith, the light that enlightens them. It is the most fundamental and essential teaching in the "hierarchy of the truths of faith". The whole history of salvation is identical with the history of the way and the means by which the one true God, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, reveals himself to men "and reconciles and unites with himself those who turn away from sin".
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  last convention before global attack on witnesses

  by Phoebe in

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  so it's not enough that i'm dealing with post traumatic stress/anxiety and panic attacks all related to my life as a jw (50 years baptized -- i stopped going a couple of months ago) at 3 a.m. i get an email from the other side of the world.

  'you have to go to the convention.

  bro sanderson says we must watch the news, things are happening.

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  It`s like the Cher "Farewell Tour" on Steroids..

  I was thinking more like Keith Richards...there is no good reason either he or the WTBTS should have survived so much self-inflicted damage!
  
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  I have a theory related to the cult spectrum

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  translating jwfacts into spanish has made me critically analyze pretty much everything paul has written.

  i would say paul is right 90%+ of the time.

  some things are just things that are outdated, on other occasions, things are partially right and just need to be tweaked.anyhow... one of the articles is "where else would i go"?since i am an atheist, ideally, for me, the answer would be "become at least agnostic, if not atheist, and lead an evidence-based life".

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  Check out the Worldwide Church of God...

  That is an unusual case. Their reformation came about when Armstrong's prophecies did not come to pass, and his successors did considerable soul-searching (if you will pardon the pun) and re-assessed their doctrine. They are now a more typical evangelical sect. If they can do it, there may be a glimmer of hope that even the WTBTS could reform itself. Long odds, but it could happen.
  

  Your four-quadrant graph left out the Orthodox churches, who would be far in the upper right corner--more Catholic than the Catholics, so to speak.
  
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  Want to read a surprising comment/complaint posted on my website about JW's encouraged not to have kids. Who would have thought!

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://watchtowerdocuments.org/did-you-know-having-children/#comment-474.

  here's the short article found in the "did you know?

  " series found on watchtower documents, and, underneath it, is the unusual comment:.

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  If they keep this up, they could go the way of the Shakers: down to a small handful of members, because they believe they must be celibate. Between the lack of born-ins and the ramifications of becoming a convert, it's no wonder they have virtually vanished.
  
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  Japan On High Alert

  by snowbird in

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  my g'daughter and her hubby are stationed in okinawa.. i talked with her a few hours earlier today, and she stated they're preparing for the worst.. young people are remarkably resilient, aren't they?.

  sylvia.

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  I'm surprised that China hasn't tried to covertly remove the present wacky President of North Korea and replace him with someone more stable.

  How do we know that they haven't? There was a reason Fearless Leader had his own kin poisoned...he may be paranoid, but that doesn't mean that nobody is out to get him.
  
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  Jehovah's witness doctrine on "only 144,000 are born again" easily debunked!

  by yogosans14 in

  1. watchtower
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  these verses in particular were an eye opener for me.

  of course in the jws i thought only 144,000 are truly born again and are part of the new covenant but the bible says else wise.

  i know most here will disagree with me but try to have a open mind here :).

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  "After that I saw a huge number, impossible to count, of people from every nation, race, tribe, and language; they were standing in front of the throne and in front of the lamb, dressed in white robes and carrying palms in their hands."

  (Rev. 7:9)
  
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  Aren't you a bit amazed that the WTS/JWS is still around ?

  by Finkelstein in

  1. watchtower
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  i know i am, to me its a bit of a peculiar anomaly that the wts is still around and functioning in reflection of its decades and now complete century that the wts has been bullshitting to people .

  organizations like the church of god have shrunk dramatically from its heyday of the 1980's, this too was another organization that spread and grew by publishing its own magazine proclaiming a armageddon soon doctrine and its main publication was called " the truth " .

  i'm guessing some of this has to do with the fact that people who get lured into this cult aren't aware of its past, its doctrines, the people who started it and so forth.

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  The leaders following Herbert W. and Garner Ted changed them to a more mainstream Evangelical sect. They no longer call themselves Worldwide Church of God, and would hardly recognize the original teachings...though witnesses might, as their respective founders had many doctrines in common.
  
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  Bless Me, For I Have Sinned

  by snowbird in

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  i've just finished eating a slice of delicious birthday cake!.

  depart from me, for i am a sinful person.. tee hee hee.. sylvia.

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  A nice part about working for a small, family-owned business is having cake and greetings honoring all employees with recent birthdays at every monthly staff meeting. The owners pay for it.
  
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  The Bible Texts Watchtower has never commented on

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  the watchtower library is a great tool to learn more about the watchtower itself.

  for example, answering the question "does the word "organization" ever appear in the bible"?

  is easy to answer using it.

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  John, chapter 6. Were does it say it is meant only for "the anointed"? Where does it mention "emblems"? How can "eat" and "drink" be interpreted to mean "do not partake"?
  
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  Hello

  by snowbird in

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  just want to say hello.. trying to master my new tablet given to me by my grandson.. yeah, i am bragging.. lol.. sylvia.

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  Hello Sylvia, good to see you're still here! Enjoy the new tablet. It seems to me your grandson deserves to be bragged about.